High-speed chase suspects can't sue police

cstr20cstr · 04-30-2007, 11:57 AM

I can't even believe this was even taken to court to begin with..... on the other hand, with today's liberal lawyers, I guess I can.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/30/sc...ase/index.html

Zazula · 04-30-2007, 10:49 PM

This case was taken to court because there was a serious injury involved. However, I fail to understand why the lawyers involved are tagged "liberal". They were standard greedy lawyers, who are ready to argue on just about anything, hoping they'll persuade (or outright mislead) the judge(s) and jury.

**-=Rousseau=-** · 05-01-2007, 12:00 AM

Stupid lawsuit...

On the other hand, it wasn't quite necessary that he be run off the road. Where I live, police will not engage in a pursuit unless there is a significant danger to the public from the driver's current behavior, where the pursuit would not cause the driver to "up the ante" and drive more erratically in an attempt to escape. In this case, if they had just marked his license plate and taken a photo if possible (or required - it may be difficult to prove he was the driver if someone else had access to the car and nothing but a license plate #) of the driver and then eased off, he probably would not have been tearing down the roads at 100mph+, etc, and would not be a quadriplegic. They would have just got him later at home. There is also the thrill factor, some ppl get into the police chases for the thrill of it. Where's the thrill if there's no chase?

Of course where I live there aren't many pursuit situations... or much crime for that matter - which means all the more speeding tickets from the bored cops

. (One example: I saw 5 marked cruisers within a half mile looking for speeders... Wow.)

cstr20cstr · 05-01-2007, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zazula

This case was taken to court because there was a serious injury involved. However, I fail to understand why the lawyers involved are tagged "liberal". They were standard greedy lawyers, who are ready to argue on just about anything, hoping they'll persuade (or outright mislead) the judge(s) and jury.

Liberal because the lawyer in this case was sticking up for criminal "rights" where CLEARLY he was responsible for his own actions. Liberals like to place responsibility for people's own actions on others, as in this case.
Liberal also in that this lawyer (or lawyers) in this case were trying to set up precedence for future cases where criminals could sue other people, when in fact it was the criminals responsibility for their own actions.

**Drew1369** · 05-01-2007, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstr20cstr

Liberal because the lawyer in this case was sticking up for criminal "rights" where CLEARLY he was responsible for his own actions. Liberals like to place responsibility for people's own actions on others, as in this case.
Liberal also in that this lawyer (or lawyers) in this case were trying to set up precedence for future cases where criminals could sue other people, when in fact it was the criminals responsibility for their own actions.

Greatest part of the law is innocent until proven guilty... it doesn't say he has been convicted. Thechnicalities I know but Zaz is correct... its not a liberal lawyer... its just a lawyer doing what he does best.

On the other hand this plays right into lawsuit America... I think I'm going to go spill hot coffee on me now!

bry623 · 05-01-2007, 09:28 AM

Thinking about that has cause me to have a sympathy burn on my leg, I am suing you.

cstr20cstr · 05-01-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew1369

Greatest part of the law is innocent until proven guilty... it doesn't say he has been convicted. Thechnicalities I know but Zaz is correct... its not a liberal lawyer... its just a lawyer doing what he does best.

On the other hand this plays right into lawsuit America... I think I'm going to go spill hot coffee on me now!

That's true IF the criminal is in fact NOT guilty, or guilt is in question. I agree.

But in this case, as I mentioned, it's OBVIOUS this criminal was guilty, it was on video tape for gods sake.

And even though it was so damn obvious, these LIBERAL lawyers had the nerve to try sueing the police.

**Drew1369** · 05-01-2007, 04:18 PM

no... in the United states it does not matter how much evidence they have on you... you are innocent and assumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.

You could shoot someone and have 4 camera's and 50 witnesses plus fingerprints on the gun all against you but can still say not-guilty when asked.

So... until the guy is found guilty he is innocent... no if's ands or butts about it.

And in a capitolist enviroment these sort of things happen... still wrong in my eyes... but money is money... can't fault the lawyer...

and despite how always wrong they are... you shouldn't insult liberals by including lawyers with them

~~Nik00117~~ · 05-01-2007, 11:00 PM

I got a tip for that man, next time ploice want you to pull over, don't speed up.

04-30-2007, 11:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
cstr20cstr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 309 OS: xp	High-speed chase suspects can't sue police I can't even believe this was even taken to court to begin with..... on the other hand, with today's liberal lawyers, I guess I can. http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/30/sc...ase/index.html

04-30-2007, 10:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zazula Manager Emeritus, I'm blond, James Blond Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 7,667 OS: Win XP Pro SP2	Re: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police This case was taken to court because there was a serious injury involved. However, I fail to understand why the lawyers involved are tagged "liberal". They were standard greedy lawyers, who are ready to argue on just about anything, hoping they'll persuade (or outright mislead) the judge(s) and jury. __________________ "Time is the wisest because it discovers everything" Thales of Miletus (ca.624BC-ca.546BC) "Everything flows, nothing stands still." Heraclitus of Ephesus (ca.535BC-475BC) "One thing I know, that I know nothing" Socrates of Athens (ca.470BC–399BC)

05-01-2007, 12:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
-=Rousseau=- Biker, Geek and Jock Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nashvegas Posts: 827 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate My System	Re: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police Stupid lawsuit... On the other hand, it wasn't quite necessary that he be run off the road. Where I live, police will not engage in a pursuit unless there is a significant danger to the public from the driver's current behavior, where the pursuit would not cause the driver to "up the ante" and drive more erratically in an attempt to escape. In this case, if they had just marked his license plate and taken a photo if possible (or required - it may be difficult to prove he was the driver if someone else had access to the car and nothing but a license plate #) of the driver and then eased off, he probably would not have been tearing down the roads at 100mph+, etc, and would not be a quadriplegic. They would have just got him later at home. There is also the thrill factor, some ppl get into the police chases for the thrill of it. Where's the thrill if there's no chase? Of course where I live there aren't many pursuit situations... or much crime for that matter - which means all the more speeding tickets from the bored cops . (One example: I saw 5 marked cruisers within a half mile looking for speeders... Wow.) Last edited by -=Rousseau=-; 05-01-2007 at 12:02 AM.

05-01-2007, 09:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 11,692 OS: winxp pro sp2	Re: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police Thinking about that has cause me to have a sympathy burn on my leg, I am suing you. __________________ "If you aren't a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you are 50, you have no brain"

05-01-2007, 04:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
Drew1369 Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,425 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police no... in the United states it does not matter how much evidence they have on you... you are innocent and assumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. You could shoot someone and have 4 camera's and 50 witnesses plus fingerprints on the gun all against you but can still say not-guilty when asked. So... until the guy is found guilty he is innocent... no if's ands or butts about it. And in a capitolist enviroment these sort of things happen... still wrong in my eyes... but money is money... can't fault the lawyer... and despite how always wrong they are... you shouldn't insult liberals by including lawyers with them __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

05-01-2007, 11:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: High-speed chase suspects can't sue police I got a tip for that man, next time ploice want you to pull over, don't speed up.