Feds Raid Alabama Militia Group

mimo2005 · 04-27-2007, 07:41 AM

IEDs: So easy, even a redneck can do it

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...tRocketScience

Zazula · 04-27-2007, 08:35 AM

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...uncovered a small arsenal of home-made weapons that included a rocket launcher...

Big deal, any suitable tube can serve as one - the rockets are the actual weapon.

~~Nik00117~~ · 04-27-2007, 04:13 PM

They could make a lot of things go boom boom.

yustr · 04-27-2007, 05:51 PM

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Where are all the pro-gun advocates on this one? It doesn't say right to bear only hand guns or rifles. It says "right to bear Arms". Are not all of the things (except the marijuana plants

) confiscated "Arms"? Were they not a militia? Can we consider the NRA TWIBAT hippocrates's if they don't step up and defend these idiots...

~~Nik00117~~ · 04-28-2007, 03:37 PM

I support poeple freely owning rifles, and handguns.

I don't support poeple freely owning AK-47s, RPGs, and Hand genernades.

yustr · 04-29-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nik00117

I support poeple freely owning rifles, and handguns.

I don't support poeple freely owning AK-47s, RPGs, and Hand genernades.

Isn't the AK-47 a rifle? Hence the logical fallacy of most gun advocates: taken to the extreme they can't defend their position. Some have said: we need our guns because an invading foreign government might try to take over or maybe even our own (as if they're not already). But think it through - the army has tanks and APC's and automatic weapons, and planes and helicopters and $500 billion worth of other stuff - are you really going to stop them with "rifles and handguns"? Maybe you need a M1A1 or even a nuke or two! Well regulated of course. (That said, the Iraqis are doing a pretty fair job of it without the Second Amendment so maybe they have a point...)

mimo2005 · 04-29-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by yustr

(That said, the Iraqis are doing a pretty fair job of it without the Second Amendment so maybe they have a point...)

It s legal for iraqi families to have up to 2 Ak 47 per family for their protection against <put a name of an enemy>

~~Nik00117~~ · 04-29-2007, 12:36 PM

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Isn't the AK-47 a rifle? Hence the logical fallacy of most gun advocates: taken to the extreme they can't defend their position. Some have said: we need our guns because an invading foreign government might try to take over or maybe even our own (as if they're not already). But think it through - the army has tanks and APC's and automatic weapons, and planes and helicopters and $500 billion worth of other stuff - are you really going to stop them with "rifles and handguns"? Maybe you need a M1A1 or even a nuke or two! Well regulated of course. (That said, the Iraqis are doing a pretty fair job of it without the Second Amendment so maybe they have a point...)[quote]

Um a fully atuomatic AK-47 being sold openly is a bad idea.

A .22 rifle to go hunting with is ok.

Also yes 300 million armed Americans could be a royal pain in the *** for any army to over come.

Interseting to note the Iraqis do have something very simliar to the 2nd ademdment each household is allowed to own at least 1 AK-47

mimo2005 · 04-29-2007, 12:50 PM

the Official number is 1 Ak 47 per household , but a lot have at least 2 , in case the first one got a magazine problem etc etc etc , a second one as a back up , and they don't get arrested for that .

cstr20cstr · 04-29-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by yustr

Where are all the pro-gun advocates on this one? It doesn't say right to bear only hand guns or rifles. It says "right to bear Arms". Are not all of the things (except the marijuana plants

) confiscated "Arms"? Were they not a militia? Can we consider the NRA TWIBAT hippocrates's if they don't step up and defend these idiots...

There's limits to everything, even the NRA knows/believes that.

Does "Freedom of Speech" include yelling "Bomb" on a plane ?
I don't think the ACLU would be "hypocrites" for not defending someone that did that......

~~Nik00117~~ · 04-29-2007, 01:24 PM

I think teaching young kids how to use a gun is a good bonding experience, and lots of fun for the kid. I know it was for me.

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~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: Feds Raid Alabama Militia Group They could make a lot of things go boom boom.

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~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: Feds Raid Alabama Militia Group I support poeple freely owning rifles, and handguns. I don't support poeple freely owning AK-47s, RPGs, and Hand genernades.

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~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: Feds Raid Alabama Militia Group [quote] Isn't the AK-47 a rifle? Hence the logical fallacy of most gun advocates: taken to the extreme they can't defend their position. Some have said: we need our guns because an invading foreign government might try to take over or maybe even our own (as if they're not already). But think it through - the army has tanks and APC's and automatic weapons, and planes and helicopters and $500 billion worth of other stuff - are you really going to stop them with "rifles and handguns"? Maybe you need a M1A1 or even a nuke or two! Well regulated of course. (That said, the Iraqis are doing a pretty fair job of it without the Second Amendment so maybe they have a point...)[quote] Um a fully atuomatic AK-47 being sold openly is a bad idea. A .22 rifle to go hunting with is ok. Also yes 300 million armed Americans could be a royal pain in the *** for any army to over come. Interseting to note the Iraqis do have something very simliar to the 2nd ademdment each household is allowed to own at least 1 AK-47

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mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	Re: Feds Raid Alabama Militia Group the Official number is 1 Ak 47 per household , but a lot have at least 2 , in case the first one got a magazine problem etc etc etc , a second one as a back up , and they don't get arrested for that . __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo" Last edited by mimo2005; 04-29-2007 at 12:53 PM.

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~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: Feds Raid Alabama Militia Group I think teaching young kids how to use a gun is a good bonding experience, and lots of fun for the kid. I know it was for me.