Iran warns women over slack dressing

mimo2005 · 04-23-2007, 09:33 AM

Iran cracks down on women wearing pants, as you already know an iranian woman wearing a pant , for the mollahs is like a prostitute walking in your neighborhood .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070422...jFjL1ydGMDW7oF

Zazula · 04-23-2007, 01:53 PM

OK, they've got their own rules, what's the problem?

mimo2005 · 04-23-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zazula

OK, they've got their own rules, what's the problem?

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**Drew1369** · 04-23-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zazula

OK, they've got their own rules, what's the problem?

Its just interesting about all of their rhetoric about bringing their country into the 21st century and whatnot with nuke power that they would pull this!

Zazula · 04-23-2007, 02:27 PM

You don't want even to hear someone coming and telling you what to do in your country, but you do want the reserve the exclusive right to dictate everyone else how they should behave. Pharisaism at its best. Fellas, you either stick to the "everyone for themselves" mentality, or you're open to critique, you too.

mimo2005 · 04-23-2007, 02:34 PM

I think the american people are pretty open to discuss their own problem , look at all the threads open in the political section or the offline section , 80% are about US economics , politic or social problems . From katrina to VT shooting , you have it all .

Zazula · 04-23-2007, 03:06 PM

Dang it, mimo, you're doing this on purpose, so that I have no other option than to quote Tumble; but I'm thankful he's a friend and he won't get it wrong...

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Well, here is one 100% American who doesn't give a hoot what those in the EU think of what we do or how we do it. They can do what they want for their own reasons and we will do what we do for our own reasons. Frankly, it is just none of their business.

**Drew1369** · 04-23-2007, 04:11 PM

interesting... everyone tries to tell the US how to run things... especially the UN I don't care, I just think its funny that Iran wants to live in the now but still stuck in the past!

geek73 · 04-23-2007, 04:15 PM

They do have their own rules. We have ours. Let bygones be bygones.. I am not saying I don't care what happens anywhere else, but its not a top priority for me.

Heck were one of the Youngest Nations. were that bratty teenager that just wont listen.. I have no idea what is wrong with the US, but there is something wrong with us..

I wish we would stay out of peoples business unless they try to force our hand..

**Drew1369** · 04-23-2007, 04:48 PM

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I wish we would stay out of peoples business unless they try to force our hand..

The world wont let us... if we sit on our butts they will yell and scream that we arn't doing anything... and then they will protest because we got involved...

geek73 · 04-23-2007, 04:54 PM

I have to admit your 100% correct Drew!

mimo2005 · 04-23-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew1369

The world wont let us... if we sit on our butts they will yell and scream that we arn't doing anything... and then they will protest because we got involved...

Agreed !
Specialy some international humanitarian associations that blame the US for not helping the situations of women and kids around the world .

geek73 · 04-23-2007, 08:01 PM

guess there is only one conclusion.. Damned if we do Damned if we dont.

But as far as the humanitarians go, let them go on the for-front and the lines, then they can say hey guess they did try. The other country just did not need their help.?

cstr20cstr · 04-24-2007, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Zazula

You don't want even to hear someone coming and telling you what to do in your country, but you do want the reserve the exclusive right to dictate everyone else how they should behave. Pharisaism at its best. Fellas, you either stick to the "everyone for themselves" mentality, or you're open to critique, you too.

I think he's making fun of their laws, he's NOT "telling" them what to do.....

Additionally, who's "dictating" to "everyone else" ?

God knows how much the rest of the (leftist) world bashes the "evil" U.S..
Yes they're bashing us, but they're not "dictating" to us, are they ?

cstr20cstr · 04-24-2007, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew1369

The world wont let us... if we sit on our butts they will yell and scream that we arn't doing anything... and then they will protest because we got involved...

You nailed it on the head there.

Although I think "they" usually refers to the leftists. They scream bloody murder if we spread that "evil" "right-wing" democracy. And they scream bloody murder how "greedy" "right-wing" America is for not giving enough $$$ to the rest of the world, even though the U.S. already donates more $$$ then any other nation to help poor nations......

Zazula · 04-24-2007, 03:41 PM

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the U.S. already donates more $$$ then any other nation to help poor nations......

Hahahahaha...
An Index of Donor Performance - Working Paper 67 (Revised November 2006)
READ THIS: http://www.cgdev.org/files/3646_file_WP67nov.pdf

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Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden score highest while the largest donors in absolute terms, the United States and Japan rank at or near the bottom.

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Rich nations are often compared on how much they share their wealth with poorer countries. The Nordics and the Netherlands, it is noted, are the most generous with foreign assistance, while the United States gives among the least aid per unit of gross domestic product.

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The United States gives large amounts of aid to countries such as Russia and Pakistan that appear too poorly governed to make good use of aid for development but have obvious geopolitical value.

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Incorporating private giving turns out to have small effects on the scores. In the case of the United States, a country often pointed to as a stingy public donor and a generous source of private charity, the result is $1.909 billion in quality-adjusted charitable giving attributed to tax policy. Added to the country’s $7.418 billion in official quality-adjusted aid, this raises the final U.S. score on the aid index from 0.06% to 0.08% of GNI, leaving the country ahead of only Italy and Japan.

**Drew1369** · 04-24-2007, 03:51 PM

perhaps in % we donate less but in actual dollar amounts... please... no one compares

Zazula · 04-24-2007, 04:06 PM

Well, to phrase it better, it is not a percentage, but an absolute value, namely aid/GNI.

Now, let's see what the "uncomparable" dollar amount means... Is the US Stingy?

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In per capita terms, U.S. development assistance is near the bottom of the heap, averaging roughly 13 cents a day--or under $50 a year--for each of its roughly 280 million citizens. That is about one eighth of the per capita contributions of Norway, which gave an average of $1.02 per person, one-sixth of Denmark's (84 cents), and about half the average contributions of Belgium, Ireland, France, Finland, and Britain.

"What this misses," the Wall Street Journal editorialized Friday, "is that Americans have never trusted government institutions to dole out assistance. Instead we open our wallets for private groups that are better at targeting money where it's needed, tracking projects, cutting waste--and getting better results."

But while Americans do indeed give more of their own money to overseas aid programs than most western donors, the amount remains by and large a small fraction of what other countries give through their governments.

According to the CGD study, Americans spend the equivalent of 5 cents a day on private donations to overseas aid programs, bringing public and private aid to a per capita average of 18 cents a day. This puts the U.S. well ahead of Italy, Spain, Portugal, New Zealand, and Greece; but it still lags behind Canada and Austria; and far behind the most generous donors--including Norway, Switzerland, and Ireland--which give more in private donations per capita, as well as government aid, than Americans.

"In terms of aid given per person, the U.S. is one of the least generous rich countries," said David Roodman, a CGD Fellow.

Even government aid plus private giving, according to some on the right, fails to capture the true generosity of American citizens, according to David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter who is now based at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). A truer picture would show that "Americans give more and do more--not just absolutely more, but proportionately more--than any other people on earth."

"Using the right measures, Americans are the most generous people in the world," according to Carol Adelman, a senior fellow at the neo-conservative Hudson Institute. In a 2003 'Foreign Affairs' article, she argued that, when other forms of assistance, such as military aid and subsidies to promote U.S. foreign investment, remittances by immigrants to their families in developing countries, donations by U.S. foundations and businesses, and scholarships from U.S. universities are included, Washington spent well over $55 billion in assistance to poor countries. Adelman, however, did not compare the U.S. performance on these variables with that of other donor countries.

A major effort last year to include a broader set of variables than government foreign aid and private donations, however, found that Washington ranked seventh--along with France, Germany and Norway--out of the top 21 donors as the country "most committed" to promoting development and disrupting poverty in the world's developing countries. Washington's relatively open markets for exports from poor countries, as well as its relatively liberal immigration policies, are chiefly responsible for its higher ranking, according to the Index. Even weighing these factors, however, the U.S. was still outranked by the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Australia, Britain, and Canada.

cstr20cstr · 04-24-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zazula

Hahahahaha...
An Index of Donor Performance - Working Paper 67 (Revised November 2006)
READ THIS: http://www.cgdev.org/files/3646_file_WP67nov.pdf

Those are based on percentages, not actual dollars.....

**Drew1369** · 04-24-2007, 06:47 PM

He's splitting the dollars up in HOW they are provided... I see his point.

04-23-2007, 09:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	Iran warns women over slack dressing Iran cracks down on women wearing pants, as you already know an iranian woman wearing a pant , for the mollahs is like a prostitute walking in your neighborhood . http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070422...jFjL1ydGMDW7oF __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

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Zazula Manager Emeritus, I'm blond, James Blond Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 7,667 OS: Win XP Pro SP2	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing OK, they've got their own rules, what's the problem? __________________ "Time is the wisest because it discovers everything" Thales of Miletus (ca.624BC-ca.546BC) "Everything flows, nothing stands still." Heraclitus of Ephesus (ca.535BC-475BC) "One thing I know, that I know nothing" Socrates of Athens (ca.470BC–399BC)

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Zazula Manager Emeritus, I'm blond, James Blond Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 7,667 OS: Win XP Pro SP2	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing You don't want even to hear someone coming and telling you what to do in your country, but you do want the reserve the exclusive right to dictate everyone else how they should behave. Pharisaism at its best. Fellas, you either stick to the "everyone for themselves" mentality, or you're open to critique, you too. __________________ "Time is the wisest because it discovers everything" Thales of Miletus (ca.624BC-ca.546BC) "Everything flows, nothing stands still." Heraclitus of Ephesus (ca.535BC-475BC) "One thing I know, that I know nothing" Socrates of Athens (ca.470BC–399BC)

04-23-2007, 02:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing I think the american people are pretty open to discuss their own problem , look at all the threads open in the political section or the offline section , 80% are about US economics , politic or social problems . From katrina to VT shooting , you have it all . __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

04-23-2007, 04:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
Drew1369 Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,453 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing interesting... everyone tries to tell the US how to run things... especially the UN I don't care, I just think its funny that Iran wants to live in the now but still stuck in the past! __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

04-23-2007, 04:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
geek73 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 694 OS: SuSe Linux My System	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing They do have their own rules. We have ours. Let bygones be bygones.. I am not saying I don't care what happens anywhere else, but its not a top priority for me. Heck were one of the Youngest Nations. were that bratty teenager that just wont listen.. I have no idea what is wrong with the US, but there is something wrong with us.. I wish we would stay out of peoples business unless they try to force our hand.. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

04-23-2007, 04:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
geek73 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 694 OS: SuSe Linux My System	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing I have to admit your 100% correct Drew! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

04-23-2007, 08:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
geek73 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 694 OS: SuSe Linux My System	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing guess there is only one conclusion.. Damned if we do Damned if we dont. But as far as the humanitarians go, let them go on the for-front and the lines, then they can say hey guess they did try. The other country just did not need their help.? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

04-24-2007, 03:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
Drew1369 Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,453 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing perhaps in % we donate less but in actual dollar amounts... please... no one compares __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

04-24-2007, 06:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
Drew1369 Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,453 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: Iran warns women over slack dressing He's splitting the dollars up in HOW they are provided... I see his point. __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/