"long live Muqtada al-Sadr"

mimo2005 · 12-30-2006, 07:44 AM

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As a noose was tightened around Hussein's neck, one of the executioners yelled "long live Muqtada al-Sadr," Haddad said, referring to the powerful anti-American Shiite religious leader.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ein/index.html

Sadaam Hussein's execution was a great step forward for... Muqtada Al-Sadr?

Bonus :
As soon as Saddam was killed a car bomb kills 36 people. Well the repercussion didn't take long

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061230/ts_nm/iraq_dc

~~Ben123~~ · 12-30-2006, 08:07 AM

I hate Muqtada al Sadr - he should not be in the parliament. He represents the biggest problem in Iraq.

And we all knew that retaliatory bombing would happen, the Pentagon, and President George W. Bush said that violence could increase. What can be said? The victory for Iraq, and thereby America, is a lose for the terrorists. Which is why it is imperitive to win in Iraq - to defeat the terrorists - terrorists that shout death America, and would love to attack us. But they are tied up in Iraq.

mimo2005 · 12-30-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben123

I hate Muqtada al Sadr - he should not be in the parliament. He represents the biggest problem in Iraq.

And we all knew that retaliatory bombing would happen, the Pentagon, and President George W. Bush said that violence could increase. What can be said? The victory for Iraq, and thereby America, is a lose for the terrorists. Which is why it is imperitive to win in Iraq - to defeat the terrorists - terrorists that shout death America, and would love to attack us. But they are tied up in Iraq.

Why not hang muqtada al sadr , the boss of militias that killed hundreds of innocent iraqis sunnis ?

You can be proud , history will judge you sooner or later for letting it happened .

~~Ben123~~ · 12-30-2006, 10:00 AM

Exactly! Why not kill al Sadr. I would love to see that. I think that in the least he should be deported and removed from Iraqi government. There is no room for him in Iraq.

I believe you mean al Sadr is responable for killing Shi'ites? He is Sunni.

mimo2005 · 12-30-2006, 10:05 AM

lol

al sadr is shiite and he is drilling the sunni's head , that s how he kills them , with a drill .

~~Ben123~~ · 12-30-2006, 10:06 AM

Huh? I don't get it?

mimo2005 · 12-30-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben123

Huh? I don't get it?

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The United Nations calculates that an unprecedented 3,709 Iraqi civilians were killed in October. Death squads connected to the Mahdi Army, as well as to other Shia and Sunni groups, capture and execute civilians in cold blood, sometimes dragging them out of hospitals or government ministries. Corpses turn up on the street with acid burns on their backs, or electric-drill holes in their knees, stomachs and heads. Among ordinary Iraqis, the United States bears much of the blame for the bloodshed—just for being there.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15898064...wsweek/page/2/

Bush and dick cheney are proud people . Shame on them .

~~Ben123~~ · 12-30-2006, 10:32 AM

Are you somehow suggesting that the Administration has an implicit responsability, and are personally guilty for the terrorism? I think that you need to rethink your thesis.

mimo2005 · 12-30-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben123

Are you somehow suggesting that the Administration has an implicit responsability, and are personally guilty for the terrorism? I think that you need to rethink your thesis.

yes , we are as guilty as saddam !
Bush sould be impeached , he is a murderer .

~~Ben123~~ · 12-30-2006, 11:08 AM

Please don't say "we". I am not guilty.

Give me a solitary example of a time when 2 term President George W. Bush

a) murdered someone himself (attempted is fine)
b) conspired to intentionally murder someone

And President Bush should not be impeached, he has done absolutely nothing wrong. I think some people are just mad that Bubba narrowly escaped the gauntlet, and now they are looking (desperatly, fruitlessly) for blood.

~~Wozer~~ · 12-30-2006, 11:38 AM

sure...

point b):

the Iraq invasion with such childish names for operations like Shock and Awe...

9/11

point a):

Bush is way too much of a edited for profane language to do anything in person...

~~Ben123~~ · 12-30-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wozer

point b):

the Iraq invasion with such childish names for operations like Shock and Awe...

So, because we used childish names such as shock n' awe we are killers?

9/11

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point a):

Bush is way too much of a edited for profane language to do anything in person...

So really you have nothing?

~~Wozer~~ · 12-30-2006, 09:05 PM

so you really don't know how to debate do you?

shock and awe is childish, and was used in a way to further put down our war...we, America, are killers because of the war not because of the immature names given to the operations...the fact I have to explain this point just proves you are simply out for trouble, and you know it and are doing it on purpose...a very rude style of debating...being our commander in chief, and the one who called for the war, then by inference Bush is guilty of murder for what has gone on over there...

at this point in history a very large % of the world believes 9/11 was an inside job, and with the unbelievable number of 'inconsistencies' in the official story I believe as such also...again, murder...

~~Ben123~~ · 12-30-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wozer

being our commander in chief, and the one who called for the war, then by inference Bush is guilty of murder for what has gone on over there...
.

Then by that logic FDR is murderer for bombing Remmel, and for killing Nazis who were "just following orders." Pretty much every President should be impeached by that reasoning.

I'm sorry you think I have it out for you or something. I just don't... If I ever see you I will buy you a beer to show good will.

I'm not inclined to believe that 9-11 was anything but a terrorist attack, Osama Bin Laden took credit for it... To me that pretty makes it a guarantee... I respect your right to believe that, I would have to say that the "truths" shown in Loose Change (which I saw) have been thoroughly debunked and pulvarized.

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so you really don't know how to debate do you?

Please explain. Do mean that because I don't agree with you I am a poor debater?

B

~~Wozer~~ · 12-30-2006, 10:28 PM

his name was Rommel...not Remmel...

one cannot compare the actions of FDR with Bush, as America joined that war after Pearl Harbor..and said war was started by Germany and Japan followed suit...

again you prove yourself adept at avoiding the issue and making idiotic statements that try to take away from the real issue...your shock and awe statement was proof...

how does a nazi who was following orders compare with a president giving the orders?

I'll be the first to admit that many nazis were actively involved with the whole evil empire...but I will also defend the fact that many were following orders out of fear for their, and their families, lives...just like it appears so many are afraid of uttering certain words in America because they fear reprisals...reprisals that are supposed to be protected by the spirit of the first amendment...

as far as your belief that the theories of Loose Change (which I haven't seen) have been 'thoroughly debunked and pulvarized (sic)" I argue the opposite..the 'facts' as presented have been thoroughly trashed including the pancake fall of the twin towers (that happened on DemocracyNow where the authors of the article as printed in Popular Mechanics were silenced so completely I nearly fell out of my chair with laughter)

you are certainly not a poor debater because of disagreement (that is the nature of debate)...you are poor because of your previously mentioned attempts at avoiding the issue with inflammatory comments that are baseless and utterly childish...

did jeffdrummer teach you how to spell?, because you make the same type of typos as he did...

~~Ben123~~ · 12-31-2006, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wozer

his name was Rommel...not Remmel...

Remmel... the village... use Dresden if you wish

one cannot compare the actions of FDR with Bush, as America joined that war after Pearl Harbor..and said war was started by Germany and Japan followed suit...[/quote]

What did Germany ever do to us?

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how does a nazi who was following orders compare with a president giving the orders?

You don't get it, the Nazis soldiers were just following orders and FDR murdered them.

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I'll be the first to admit that many nazis were actively involved with the whole evil empire...but I will also defend the fact that many were following orders out of fear for their, and their families, lives...

Exactly

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did jeffdrummer teach you how to spell?, because you make the same type of typos as he did...[/quote

I'm an English grad stadent, if you would like I'll start spell checking

yustr · 12-31-2006, 06:33 AM

Please try to remember the topic of the thread and stay on that topic. If you wish to go off on a tangent make it clear as to why then bring it back to the topic. You can always start another thread if you wish.

Also, I will remind all contributers to the PS to reread the Rules and abide by them.

I'm closing this thread.

12-30-2006, 10:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	lol al sadr is shiite and he is drilling the sunni's head , that s how he kills them , with a drill . __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

12-30-2006, 11:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
~~Ben123~~ Register user Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springville, NY Posts: 81 OS: Windows Vista/ Windows XP/ OS X 10.4.8	Please don't say "we". I am not guilty. Give me a solitary example of a time when 2 term President George W. Bush a) murdered someone himself (attempted is fine) b) conspired to intentionally murder someone And President Bush should not be impeached, he has done absolutely nothing wrong. I think some people are just mad that Bubba narrowly escaped the gauntlet, and now they are looking (desperatly, fruitlessly) for blood. Last edited by Ben123; 12-30-2006 at 11:12 AM.

12-31-2006, 06:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 6,052 OS: XP Pro My System	Please try to remember the topic of the thread and stay on that topic. If you wish to go off on a tangent make it clear as to why then bring it back to the topic. You can always start another thread if you wish. Also, I will remind all contributers to the PS to reread the Rules and abide by them. I'm closing this thread. __________________ If there are lawyers or politicians involved, logic may be a very poor tool for reaching a conclusion.

12-30-2006, 08:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
~~Ben123~~ Register user Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springville, NY Posts: 81 OS: Windows Vista/ Windows XP/ OS X 10.4.8	I hate Muqtada al Sadr - he should not be in the parliament. He represents the biggest problem in Iraq. And we all knew that retaliatory bombing would happen, the Pentagon, and President George W. Bush said that violence could increase. What can be said? The victory for Iraq, and thereby America, is a lose for the terrorists. Which is why it is imperitive to win in Iraq - to defeat the terrorists - terrorists that shout death America, and would love to attack us. But they are tied up in Iraq.

12-30-2006, 10:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
~~Ben123~~ Register user Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springville, NY Posts: 81 OS: Windows Vista/ Windows XP/ OS X 10.4.8	Exactly! Why not kill al Sadr. I would love to see that. I think that in the least he should be deported and removed from Iraqi government. There is no room for him in Iraq. I believe you mean al Sadr is responable for killing Shi'ites? He is Sunni.

12-30-2006, 10:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
~~Ben123~~ Register user Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springville, NY Posts: 81 OS: Windows Vista/ Windows XP/ OS X 10.4.8	Huh? I don't get it?

12-30-2006, 10:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
~~Ben123~~ Register user Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springville, NY Posts: 81 OS: Windows Vista/ Windows XP/ OS X 10.4.8	Are you somehow suggesting that the Administration has an implicit responsability, and are personally guilty for the terrorism? I think that you need to rethink your thesis.

12-30-2006, 11:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
~~Wozer~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,038 OS: 2kpro/XP pro/MCE	sure... point b): the Iraq invasion with such childish names for operations like Shock and Awe... 9/11 point a): Bush is way too much of a edited for profane language to do anything in person...

12-30-2006, 09:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
~~Wozer~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,038 OS: 2kpro/XP pro/MCE	so you really don't know how to debate do you? shock and awe is childish, and was used in a way to further put down our war...we, America, are killers because of the war not because of the immature names given to the operations...the fact I have to explain this point just proves you are simply out for trouble, and you know it and are doing it on purpose...a very rude style of debating...being our commander in chief, and the one who called for the war, then by inference Bush is guilty of murder for what has gone on over there... at this point in history a very large % of the world believes 9/11 was an inside job, and with the unbelievable number of 'inconsistencies' in the official story I believe as such also...again, murder...

12-30-2006, 10:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
~~Wozer~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,038 OS: 2kpro/XP pro/MCE	his name was Rommel...not Remmel... one cannot compare the actions of FDR with Bush, as America joined that war after Pearl Harbor..and said war was started by Germany and Japan followed suit... again you prove yourself adept at avoiding the issue and making idiotic statements that try to take away from the real issue...your shock and awe statement was proof... how does a nazi who was following orders compare with a president giving the orders? I'll be the first to admit that many nazis were actively involved with the whole evil empire...but I will also defend the fact that many were following orders out of fear for their, and their families, lives...just like it appears so many are afraid of uttering certain words in America because they fear reprisals...reprisals that are supposed to be protected by the spirit of the first amendment... as far as your belief that the theories of Loose Change (which I haven't seen) have been 'thoroughly debunked and pulvarized (sic)" I argue the opposite..the 'facts' as presented have been thoroughly trashed including the pancake fall of the twin towers (that happened on DemocracyNow where the authors of the article as printed in Popular Mechanics were silenced so completely I nearly fell out of my chair with laughter) you are certainly not a poor debater because of disagreement (that is the nature of debate)...you are poor because of your previously mentioned attempts at avoiding the issue with inflammatory comments that are baseless and utterly childish... did jeffdrummer teach you how to spell?, because you make the same type of typos as he did...