Code Orange and Security!?

Redrum657 · 09-04-2006, 11:37 AM

My friend says that something is going on that the US planes are in "Code Orange" what the hell i say it aint true and he says it means planes need to fly low but i do see them that low near my roof. Also I was visiting Poland when i came back the airport security was VERY strict they frisk you and they wont let you have ANYTHING only your documents and money. I tried goin on with some gum i bought and they made us throw in the garbage. Also they arnt doing anything to solve this problem. What will be our Aviation Future with this going on. Also we are in Defcon 4 this is a bad time for the world. Please reply.

**40sondacurb** · 09-04-2006, 03:08 PM

HLS says we're at yellow

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/homeland/index.html

ebackhus · 09-05-2006, 04:50 PM

Code marmalade.

yustr · 09-05-2006, 06:15 PM

It getting close to election time - expect it to be raised any day now..."We have definitive knowledge that an al-Quida cell is threatening a major American port..." Or a airport. Or a chemical plant. Or a nuclear plant. Or a bridge. Or some train tracks - heck they might even blow up some tracks just to "prove" its real.

Translation: Oh crap, we're slipping in the polls, let's scare the begibbies out of them. They fell for it last time. And they're really stupid so they'll fall for it again.

**karusho** · 09-07-2006, 04:55 PM

XD

Conspirists maintain that the US government did 9/11, not Al Qaeda.

bry623 · 09-08-2006, 01:58 PM

Careful there y, if they have to, they'll brung OBL out of the Super Secret CIA prison he has been in to ensure a GOP victory.

yustr · 09-08-2006, 07:46 PM

Actually the odds have been given at about 10:1 of that happening. I wouldn't doubt for a minute that we know exactly where he is - except for one fact that's not in evidence: competence.

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So here are ten possible contenders for this year's October Surprise, complete with odds (which I made up out of thin air and moonbeams):

(1) Announce the capture and/or death of Osama Bin Laden. Odds: 10 to 1
A perennial favorite! But if it was going to happen, it probably already would have happened in 2002 or 2004, so it's a relative long shot. Also, we'd have to... you know... catch him....

(2) Gas price relief at the pump for average Americans. Odds: 5 to 1
The problem with this is it would be very hard for the federal government to do. They could flood the American market with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, or they could resurrect the "vouchers to pay for gas" program (which was quickly shot down when initially proposed).

Either way, it would run the risk of voters seeing through the manipulation of using the short-term market in a blatant attempt to buy votes. Although odds are good they'll try something along these lines, I don't believe it would be very effective, as people would see through the smokescreen.

(3) Bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. Odds: 3 to 2
An early favorite. The neo-cons have been chomping at the bit to do this for years, so it's not so outrageous to conceive of Cheney and Rumsfeld convincing Bush that the time is now.

A variation, call it (3a), would be if Israel carried out the bombing. They proved they're capable when they took out Saddam's nuke facilities a few decades ago. And it would be oh, so convenient to keep our mitts off the actual bombing, for "plausible deniability" reasons. After all, Israel has a perfect ready-made casus belli in the fact that Iran supports Hezbollah. Odds: 3 to 1

Variation (3b) would be forcing Congress to vote on the issue, without actually bombing (yet). Forcing Democrats to vote on it would be a lot easier than actually doing it. Odds: 2 to 1

Variation (3c) is frightening -- the U.S. drops a nuclear bomb on Iran. Although the Bush White House has reportedly been exploring this option, the generals at the Pentagon have reportedly been pushing back hard, so there's a slim chance this will become reality. Odds: 100 to 1 (I hope)

Although all variations to this theme (except the last one) have extremely good odds, one would hope that the Bush folks would -- for once -- consider the likely repercussions. Oil would instantaneously jump to $150-200 a barrel, for instance. And we can't be certain of their ability to see future consequences, given their past track record.

(4) Bombing Syria in support of Israel. Odds: 8 to 1
This would also be a favorite of the neo-con crowd. They've been trying to talk Bush into bombing Syria since about the day after we conquered Baghdad. But the reality is that the Israeli/Lebanese/Hezbollah war will most likely still be at a tense -- but sustainable -- stalemate in October. The neo-cons will likely be frustrated in their ultimate goal of dropping bombs on everyone in the Middle East who doesn't agree with their unalterable vision of the future.

(5) Bombing Ned Lamont's house in Connecticut. Odds: 1000 to 1
Nah, probably not. They'd love to do it, but I just can't see how they could possibly get away with it. Unless it is combined with some form of (9), but even then the odds only drop to 500 to 1.

(6) The GOP brings the troops home from Iraq. Odds: 15 to 1
This is a long shot, but also a plausible possibility. Gary Hart wrote a piece on Huffington Post predicting such a turnabout, and time will tell whether he's right or not.

It's easy to see how it would take place. The Republicans would offer their own plan for withdrawal -- carefully navigating the language it is presented in -- so it appears completely different (New! Improved!) from the "cut and run" Democrats' plans. The words "victory" and "completing the mission" would probably be prominent in such an effort.

Politically, this could be a disaster for Democrats. If the GOP successfully outflanks them on the left (a strange concept, but not one beyond the talents of Karl Rove to successfully spin to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh), the Republicans would be seen as the party who would "bring the troops home with honor." The Democrats would come off as divided, without a better plan, and confused in general.

If voting Republican was seen as a vote to bring the troops home, the GOP would likely hang on to control of both houses of Congress. Even though this is somewhat of a long shot, I hope Democratic leaders have taken the possibility seriously by preparing a strong defense: "We were right, the Republicans were wrong, and only now -- when their jobs are in danger -- are they coming around to our way of thinking."

(7) Exploit the Fidel Castro situation in Cuba. Odds: 7 to 1
"Bay of Pigs II," anyone? Always a favorite in southern Florida -- which is fertile ground for electoral votes. A strong possibility of unintended consequences, though. A flood of raft people arriving on Florida beaches right before the election isn't going to go over real well with the anti-immigration wing of the Republican Party. But with Castro's current medical problems, it would indeed be a convenient distraction.

(8) Announce Cheney will step down as Vice President after the election. Odds: 25 to 1
Another perennial favorite. There have been countless rumors that this is imminent, starting almost from the day he took office. This way Bush could officially anoint his successor -- giving whoever it was a huge lead in the 2008 Republican presidential primary, rather than it being an open race.

It would be easy to arrange: Cheney steps down because his doctors advise him to, for medical reasons (of course). The GOP uses it as a rallying cry to hold onto the Senate (since they would confirm his successor) -- especially if the Democrats look like they're about to pick up the six seats they need to take control of the chamber.

But personally, I don't see it happening just for an advantage in this election. I think that if it happens at all, it will happen in 2007, a year before the presidential election. So the odds are pretty bad on this one.

(9) Announce the U.S. has thwarted a huge terrorist plot to ... (fill in the blank). Odds: 5 to 4
Worst odds (for a return on your money) in the whole list, also meaning it's the most likely to happen. It would be relatively easy to manufacture out of almost nothing, and would be seen by Republicans as helping their cause enormously. Just look at the past week's media coverage of the London terrorist plot, and imagine the same a few weeks before the election. Fear always works to Republican advantage, so the probability of this being announced at a fortuitous moment during the last days of the election is (unfortunately) extremely high.

(10) Announce that Barbara and/or Jenna Bush has joined the Marines and will soon be deploying to Iraq. Odds: 17.5 billion to 1
Hoo boy. They'll be ice skating in Hell before this happens, but you just can't beat the payoff. Bet ten bucks on this one -- and win -- and you're richer than Bill Gates! Seriously, though, save your money. It just ain't gonna happen.

So step right up, ladies and gentleman, and place your bets!

You makes your choice, and you puts your money down!

If ya doesn't play, ya cain't win!

From Chris Weigant: June 2006

09-04-2006, 11:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
Redrum657 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: U.S.A Posts: 31 OS: Vista Home Premium	Code Orange and Security!? My friend says that something is going on that the US planes are in "Code Orange" what the hell i say it aint true and he says it means planes need to fly low but i do see them that low near my roof. Also I was visiting Poland when i came back the airport security was VERY strict they frisk you and they wont let you have ANYTHING only your documents and money. I tried goin on with some gum i bought and they made us throw in the garbage. Also they arnt doing anything to solve this problem. What will be our Aviation Future with this going on. Also we are in Defcon 4 this is a bad time for the world. Please reply. Last edited by Redrum657; 09-04-2006 at 11:45 AM.

09-04-2006, 03:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
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09-05-2006, 04:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
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09-05-2006, 06:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 6,038 OS: XP Pro My System	It getting close to election time - expect it to be raised any day now..."We have definitive knowledge that an al-Quida cell is threatening a major American port..." Or a airport. Or a chemical plant. Or a nuclear plant. Or a bridge. Or some train tracks - heck they might even blow up some tracks just to "prove" its real. Translation: Oh crap, we're slipping in the polls, let's scare the begibbies out of them. They fell for it last time. And they're really stupid so they'll fall for it again. __________________ If there are lawyers or politicians involved, logic may be a very poor tool for reaching a conclusion.

09-08-2006, 01:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 11,692 OS: winxp pro sp2	Careful there y, if they have to, they'll brung OBL out of the Super Secret CIA prison he has been in to ensure a GOP victory. __________________ "If you aren't a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you are 50, you have no brain"

09-07-2006, 04:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
karusho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 1,217 OS: Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista SP1, Ubuntu 8.04 My System	XD Conspirists maintain that the US government did 9/11, not Al Qaeda.