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Old 08-01-2006, 09:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why do muslim nations hate America ?

The images of war between israel and lebanon and images from iraq are daily broadcast on all arabs TV :
USA has delivered new weapons last week to Israel to bomb South lebanon , how do you think the arab will think about us ?

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http://www.grenc.com/sfiles/lebnon/2...eCivilians.htm

http://news.independent.co.uk/people...cle1207631.ece

I pray for all the victims (lebanese and israelis victims) and i hope a quick solution to stop this insane war , before creating new terrorist ready to die to avenge their families .
and i hope the american lebanese community that lives here will hold their calm and let the world fix this mess .

ps : the 7/11 store in my neighborhood is owned by a lebanese family , i saw her crying the other day , she said : we lost our parents and my kids lost their grand parents . I said : i am sorry to hear that mam .
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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that is so sad....and disgusting. they hate us because they thing that we are trying to own them and get rid of their religion. we arent, and thery wont accept that
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that is so sad....and disgusting. they hate us because they thing that we are trying to own them and get rid of their religion. we arent, and thery wont accept that
No, it's because we are capitalist pigs.
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Our neighboring muslim country to the north also mostly hates Australia. We are supporters of the US and we are not muslim. Therefore we are the enemy.
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Iran hate us because of what we did to Mohammed Mossadegh.




Mossadegh was democraticaly elected as president of Iran, but when he began to nationalize the nations oil the US conspired to over throw Mossadegh.

On 4 April 1953 CIA director Dulles approved $1 million to be used "in any way that would bring about the fall of Mossadegh". Soon the CIA's Tehran station started to launch a propaganda campaign against Mossadegh calling him a communist and totalitarian even though he was fairly elected and had no ties to russia.

According to Dr. Donald N. Wilber, who was involved in the plot to remove Mossadegh from power, in early August, Iranian CIA operatives pretending to be socialists and nationalists threatened Muslim leaders with "savage punishment if they opposed Mossadegh," thereby giving the impression that Mossadegh was cracking down on dissent, and stirring anti-Mossadegh sentiments within the religious community.

In August 1953 the Shah formally dismissed the Prime Minister, in accordance with the foreign intelligence plan.

Massive protests broke out across the nation. Anti- and pro-monarchy protestors violently clashed in the streets, leaving almost 300 dead. Funded with money from the U.S. CIA and the British MI6, the pro-monarchy forces, led by retired army General and former Minister of Interior in Mossadeq's cabinet , Fazlollah Zahedi, gained the upper hand on 19 August 1953 (28 Mordad). The military intervened as the pro-Shah tank regiments stormed the capital and bombarded the prime minister's official residence. Mossadegh managed to flee from the mob that set in to ransack his house, and surrendered to General Zahedi the following day.

Zahedi's new government soon reached an agreement with foreign oil companies to "restore the flow of Iranian oil to world markets in substantial quantities.

Because of all this the Shaw's regime was despised by many Iranians which made it Oh so easy for the hardliner religious fundamentalist to take power in the Islamic Revolution of 1979.



And that's how we destroyed democracy in Iran

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40s, irrespective of your personal beliefs with which sometimes I agree and other times I don't (and that's most natural), I have to sincerely congratulate you for doing something most people today neglect; and that is to read History. This trait alone makes you stand apart. Keep using your mind and your judgement!
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KUDOS to you guys for actually discussing how crap american government and specifically it's foreign policy is..i hate em too

BTW: why is only the US allowed to have nukes??
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KUDOS to you guys for actually discussing how crap american government and specifically it's foreign policy is..i hate em too

BTW: why is only the US allowed to have nukes??
do you really want any more crazy governments to have nukes? But I agree that we lost our moral right to have them when we used them even though the Japanese wanted a surrender.

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I may be wrong, but illegally invading iraq and America's continual interference in affairs that don't concern them may be a part of the reason lol.
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True, but don't you think that if a country like Spain invaded France all the european tv stations would broadcast daily? NB: Lebanon is not an arab country, they are phoenicians that speak arabic.
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And their parliament is half Christians and half Muslims.
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Hang on, Everyone goes crazy when Iran has nukes, but America has loads and no one gives a toot!
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lol Iran doesn't even have nukes (yet?) and america is on their back. I think it is that kind of self-appointed world police, we know best, type of attitude that causes a lot of distaste for america.
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They just assume that muslim nations are made up of terrorist organisations
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I may be wrong, but illegally invading iraq and America's continual interference in affairs that don't concern them may be a part of the reason lol.


True, but don't you think that if a country like Spain invaded France all the european tv stations would broadcast daily? NB: Lebanon is not an arab country, they are phoenicians that speak arabic.

Yeah and Iranians are Persians, they're Arab OK. We don't call Italians Romans so I'm not calling Arabs and Iranians Persians and Phonecians, Lebanese or arab, that's where I draw the line.

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Again, do you really want a fundamentalist government that likes to talk about wiping countries of the face of the earth to have nukes?

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Yeah, especially when the guy is a freaking holocaust denier. What is that all about?
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Yeah, especially when the guy is a freaking holocaust denier. What is that all about?

Your 6,000th post is hitler related, there are 3 zeros in 6,000, anyone else see it?

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Yeah and Iranians are Persians, they're Arab OK. We don't call Italians Romans so I'm not calling Arabs and Iranians Persians and Phonecians, Lebanese or arab, that's where I draw the line.
You kinda messed your own point up lol, where do iranians come into it? They are as arab as george bush, iranians don't even speak arabic lmao.

Lebanese>>Phoenician
Iranians>>Persian

Arab...whole other keetle of fish, neither of those two countries consider themselves arab.

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Again, do you really want a fundamentalist government that likes to talk about wiping countries of the face of the earth to have nukes?
I would hardly say america was fundamentalist
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You kinda messed your own point up lol, where do iranians come into it? They are as arab as george bush, iranians don't even speak arabic lmao.

Lebanese>>Phoenician
Iranians>>Persian

Arab...whole other keetle of fish, neither of those two countries consider themselves arab.

maybe I said it a little convoluted, what I meant was that it doesn't make much sense to call modern peoples by the nationalities they held a 500 years ago.
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