Ms. McBeth

mimo2005 · 02-28-2006, 04:31 PM

After operation, Mr. McBeth returns to school as Ms. McBeth

http://www.tampabays10.com/weird/wei...?storyid=26515

**ReeKorl** · 02-28-2006, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tampa Bay's 10 News

McBeth calls the school board's decision "magnificent" and "democracy in action".

"And I have no idea what I'm letting myself in for"

I mean come on! School kids are going to rip strips off you as soon as they find out! What the flaming fork are you thinking?

**40sondacurb** · 02-28-2006, 06:24 PM

Gender role provide important shortcuts to the social standing that best fit each gender. Granted a minority of folks don't fit in to those roles (and some of the stigmas attached to women need to be revised), but the majority of of kids need those shortcuts to make life a little easier, and the confusion this woman would cause is not worth it no matter how good a teacher she is.

Unless it's high school, then let the kids deal with it.

**forcifer** · 02-28-2006, 06:41 PM

wow. if that happened to one of my teachers, id freak out. that is so wierd...

**Spatcher** · 02-28-2006, 07:14 PM

In high school we (not me, but the school in general) would hound on that teacher until he/she - what would you call the person? - quit.

But still...... that is just bloody weird (did I use it right RK?)

**Grove** · 02-28-2006, 11:46 PM

Same thing would happen here. The person would be ummm payed out until he/she quit.

Btw, Henry, is that you in the avatar

**Spatcher** · 03-01-2006, 06:02 AM

No silly. It's Carl Wheezer.

bry623 · 03-01-2006, 06:50 AM

I personally prefer Sheen myself.

Back to topic:
In my school district the teenagers would make sure it felt unwelcomed. The adults would re-elect the board member that voted no and any new ones that promised to fire it.

yustr · 03-01-2006, 07:12 AM

I think you're all underestimating the capacity of kids to be nonjudgmental. Will they be a little freaked out? Sure. Will it ruin their lives? No. Will it make all the boys want to run out and buy Gucci shoes and matching clutch purses? No. After two days of class if you ask any of them they'll say Ms. McBeth is just a cool teacher.

Time to lighten up. The trauma from the attention drawn to many of these type things far out weighs any trauma caused by the event itself. Mostly kids just wish their parents would not embarrass them. Can you imagine being the child of one of these ranting – I’m against anybody who doesn’t look, think, and act just like me – idiots. “Jimmy, was that your mom on the TV last night yelling at the school board?” Jimmy just wants to crawl into a hole.

**40sondacurb** · 03-01-2006, 10:07 AM

But kids at young ages take things at face value. 6 year old can't even understand that if you pour the liquid from a tall glass into a wide glass it still has the same amount of liquid but in a different form, good luck with "she's a man, but she's not a man."

bry623 · 03-01-2006, 10:18 AM

Plus most kids don't watch the news anyways so have no clue what their idiot drunk parnets are doing. Kids instinctively know when something is amiss and are innocent enough to question it. They will learn more about gender assignent than reading.

Also, the parents can drill into their kids that it is a different teacher and that the kids will be afraid of it. My kids are deathly afraid of my neighbor because I told them to be.

My take on McBeth, it is 71, it should retire.

**Spatcher** · 03-01-2006, 02:15 PM

I don't watch the news bry so I have idiot drunk parnets

?

Hahahah..... you called the person an it. Hahahahha good one

ebackhus · 03-01-2006, 02:34 PM

I personally feel that you are the gender that you truly think you are. So you've got a teckle set in the pants but you think you're a girl? I'll refer to you as a girl. You've got a chest to infinity but think your a guy? Fine, I'll treat you like a guy.

**ReeKorl** · 03-01-2006, 04:35 PM

You can honestly say that if they look like a woman, then you wouldn't be put off in the slightest bit if they decided to play football/hockey/whatever with you, specifically the shower-room afterwards? I'm pretty sure women would be put off by a guy who 'thinks' he's a woman if he decided to start going into the women's locker-room under the same premise.

**40sondacurb** · 03-01-2006, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebackhus

I personally feel that you are the gender that you truly think you are. So you've got a teckle set in the pants but you think you're a girl? I'll refer to you as a girl. You've got a chest to infinity but think your a guy? Fine, I'll treat you like a guy.

what if they're gay?

**forcifer** · 03-01-2006, 05:59 PM

good point. i guess that then they are both. gays sorta freak me out...
no offense to them

**Spatcher** · 03-01-2006, 06:59 PM

Yeah, no offense to any gay people, but they also kinda put me on edge.

yustr · 03-01-2006, 08:55 PM

Where's Giancarlo when we need him?

02-28-2006, 04:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, The Relaxation Room/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,091 OS: xp	Ms. McBeth After operation, Mr. McBeth returns to school as Ms. McBeth http://www.tampabays10.com/weird/wei...?storyid=26515 __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

02-28-2006, 06:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,804 OS: xp	Gender role provide important shortcuts to the social standing that best fit each gender. Granted a minority of folks don't fit in to those roles (and some of the stigmas attached to women need to be revised), but the majority of of kids need those shortcuts to make life a little easier, and the confusion this woman would cause is not worth it no matter how good a teacher she is. Unless it's high school, then let the kids deal with it. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush

02-28-2006, 06:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,486 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	wow. if that happened to one of my teachers, id freak out. that is so wierd... __________________ im back...i guess...

02-28-2006, 07:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,467 OS: XP Home SP2 My System	In high school we (not me, but the school in general) would hound on that teacher until he/she - what would you call the person? - quit. But still...... that is just bloody weird (did I use it right RK?) __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy

02-28-2006, 11:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
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03-01-2006, 06:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,467 OS: XP Home SP2 My System	No silly. It's Carl Wheezer. __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy

03-01-2006, 06:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,621 OS: winxp pro sp2	I personally prefer Sheen myself. Back to topic: In my school district the teenagers would make sure it felt unwelcomed. The adults would re-elect the board member that voted no and any new ones that promised to fire it. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -Ronald Reagan

03-01-2006, 07:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 4,994 OS: XP Pro My System	I think you're all underestimating the capacity of kids to be nonjudgmental. Will they be a little freaked out? Sure. Will it ruin their lives? No. Will it make all the boys want to run out and buy Gucci shoes and matching clutch purses? No. After two days of class if you ask any of them they'll say Ms. McBeth is just a cool teacher. Time to lighten up. The trauma from the attention drawn to many of these type things far out weighs any trauma caused by the event itself. Mostly kids just wish their parents would not embarrass them. Can you imagine being the child of one of these ranting – I’m against anybody who doesn’t look, think, and act just like me – idiots. “Jimmy, was that your mom on the TV last night yelling at the school board?” Jimmy just wants to crawl into a hole. __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas

03-01-2006, 10:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,804 OS: xp	But kids at young ages take things at face value. 6 year old can't even understand that if you pour the liquid from a tall glass into a wide glass it still has the same amount of liquid but in a different form, good luck with "she's a man, but she's not a man." __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush

03-01-2006, 10:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,621 OS: winxp pro sp2	Plus most kids don't watch the news anyways so have no clue what their idiot drunk parnets are doing. Kids instinctively know when something is amiss and are innocent enough to question it. They will learn more about gender assignent than reading. Also, the parents can drill into their kids that it is a different teacher and that the kids will be afraid of it. My kids are deathly afraid of my neighbor because I told them to be. My take on McBeth, it is 71, it should retire. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -Ronald Reagan

03-01-2006, 02:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,467 OS: XP Home SP2 My System	I don't watch the news bry so I have idiot drunk parnets ? Hahahah..... you called the person an it. Hahahahha good one __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy

03-01-2006, 02:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 12,762 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 25	I personally feel that you are the gender that you truly think you are. So you've got a teckle set in the pants but you think you're a girl? I'll refer to you as a girl. You've got a chest to infinity but think your a guy? Fine, I'll treat you like a guy. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

03-01-2006, 04:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
ReeKorl Superhuman Computer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 6th Circle, The City of Dis, Hell Posts: 1,610 OS: WinXP Pro SP2 My System	You can honestly say that if they look like a woman, then you wouldn't be put off in the slightest bit if they decided to play football/hockey/whatever with you, specifically the shower-room afterwards? I'm pretty sure women would be put off by a guy who 'thinks' he's a woman if he decided to start going into the women's locker-room under the same premise. __________________ "Sorry, the number you have dialled is imaginary. Please rotate dial by 90 degrees and try again."

03-01-2006, 05:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,486 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	good point. i guess that then they are both. gays sorta freak me out... no offense to them __________________ im back...i guess...

03-01-2006, 06:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,467 OS: XP Home SP2 My System	Yeah, no offense to any gay people, but they also kinda put me on edge. __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy

03-01-2006, 08:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 4,994 OS: XP Pro My System	Where's Giancarlo when we need him? __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas