One Billion $ Bond

mimo2005 · 01-19-2006, 10:59 PM

Man Held On $1 Billion Bond In Hummer Slaying

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10925951/

hey bry , it s ohio again :)

**40sondacurb** · 01-19-2006, 11:10 PM

the guy probably doesn't deserve it, but I'm pretty sure reasonable bail is part of the constitution.

**Grove** · 01-19-2006, 11:37 PM

That guy sure doesn't deserve it but like 40 said, its in the constitution (I think)

bry623 · 01-20-2006, 07:16 AM

It's the eighth amendment

Quote:

Originally Posted by U.S. Constitution

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

This happened here in Columbus. The video showed the shocked reaction to the bail. This judge, plus the one in Medina who is making the guy who went on the field durng a Browns game miss the Super Bowl, makes me glad to live in Ohio.

**ReeKorl** · 01-20-2006, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U.S. Constitution

Excessive bail shall not be required

Excessive? What price on a human life? $1 billion is cheap in my opinion.

-EDIT

But then, here's my opinion on bail as a whole. If you did the crime, you deserve to stay in. If you didn't, well, after you get out you're still alive, you're still healthy, what more could you ask for? Live with it. If the police got the wrong person, at least they're out there looking rather than sitting back and not arresting anyone as they could quite easily be doing.

yustr · 01-20-2006, 08:21 AM

One reason excessive bail is forbidden is that it can be (and was) a tool used to punish the innocent. The good sheriff arrests you for something you didn’t commit. Bail is set very high. What are your choices if you don’t happen to have that much lying around?

Sell everything you own at 10 cents on the dollar.

Or, you sit in jail until you’re case comes to trial. 6 months goes by – “Oops our bad, you’re free to go”. In the mean time your fields have gone unplanted, your cab didn’t get driven, your roof didn’t get patched, etc. You’re screwed.

bry623 · 01-20-2006, 08:45 AM

Good point. But in the 21st century it is a little differnet. Gravely served time as a deadbeat and had to give a DNA sample under Ohio Law. His DNA was a positive match with DNA found on this dead girl. She was brutally raped and beaten to death and he rolled around for 15 years with the memory of her death in his mind. Undoubtedly he will be found guilty and based on his omission of any guilt for fifteen years, probabaly get death.

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01-20-2006, 08:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 6,049 OS: XP Pro My System	One reason excessive bail is forbidden is that it can be (and was) a tool used to punish the innocent. The good sheriff arrests you for something you didn’t commit. Bail is set very high. What are your choices if you don’t happen to have that much lying around? Sell everything you own at 10 cents on the dollar. Or, you sit in jail until you’re case comes to trial. 6 months goes by – “Oops our bad, you’re free to go”. In the mean time your fields have gone unplanted, your cab didn’t get driven, your roof didn’t get patched, etc. You’re screwed. __________________ If there are lawyers or politicians involved, logic may be a very poor tool for reaching a conclusion.

01-20-2006, 08:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 11,692 OS: winxp pro sp2	Good point. But in the 21st century it is a little differnet. Gravely served time as a deadbeat and had to give a DNA sample under Ohio Law. His DNA was a positive match with DNA found on this dead girl. She was brutally raped and beaten to death and he rolled around for 15 years with the memory of her death in his mind. Undoubtedly he will be found guilty and based on his omission of any guilt for fifteen years, probabaly get death. __________________ "If you aren't a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you are 50, you have no brain"