M$ Vista will be updated without rebooting

**Spatcher** · 12-02-2005, 02:37 PM

Found here: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1895276,00.asp

Quote:

Microsoft Corp. is working on a significant new feature for Windows Vista, known as Restart Manager, which is designed to update parts of the operating system or applications without having to reboot the entire machine.

Microsoft officials have not talked much publicly about this new feature, but Jim Allchin, the co-president of Microsoft's platform products and services division, recently told eWEEK that this is an example of just how important the reboot issue was to the Redmond-based software giant.

"If a part of an application, or the operating system itself, needs to updated, the Installer will call the Restart Manager, which looks to see if it can clear that part of the system so that it can be updated. If it can do that, it does, and that happens without a reboot," he said.

"If you have to reboot, then what happens is that the system, together with the applications, takes a snapshot of the state: the way things are on the screen at that very moment, and then it just updates and restarts the application, or in the case of an operating system update, it will bring the operating system back exactly where it was," Allchin said.

If a user has Office 12 running on Windows Vista and the system has to do an update of either of them, and the user goes home leaving open files, the system would update and the screens would come back right to where they were before, Allchin said.

The brief information on Restart Manager on Microsoft's MSDN Windows Vista Developer Center Web site, says Restart Manager will work with Microsoft Update, Windows Update, Microsoft Windows Server Update Services, Microsoft Software Installer, and Microsoft Systems Management Server "to detect processes that have files in use and to gracefully stop and restart services without the need to restart the entire machine. Applications that are written to take advantage of the new Restart Manager features can be restarted and restored to the same state and with the same data as before the restart."

Anthony Risicato, the general manager for search and contextual at 360i LLC in New York, told eWEEK that Restart Manager is a concept that, in a vacuum, seems like a wonderful idea.

"Get the 'latest and "greatest' the minute it's available. But I do not like it, because it is trying to solve the effect, and not the cause," he said.

He also said he is cautiously optimistic that Microsoft would be able to get Restart Manager to do what they say it will if they "decide to take the time to do it right, with an emphasis on testing and quality assurance. But they must still overcome the inherent weaknesses on the Windows platform as related to file corruption, shared memory space, etc."

But Allchin told eWEEK that Restart Manager is an example of where the reboot problem has been something that Microsoft has been focusing on "and it is so important as continuous updating is the world of the future, where there will be a constant flow of updates," he said.

DD and plenty of others will *hopefully* like this.

12-02-2005, 03:45 PM

That should be a myth. I don't think even Microsofts Genius ! Skillfull ! Mighty ! cheap ! ( works for $20 a day - thats why MS puts Americans down and say " Americans don't have the skills and talents for our positions !!!! ) Indian programmers can do that. They are rebootoholics. Thank god we are not rebooting after every click. But of course we get what we deserve as we use it.

**Grove** · 12-02-2005, 05:39 PM

Well If they can do it, that's great but I think the odds are against them.

**Resolution** · 12-02-2005, 08:33 PM

I'll believe it when I see it.

12-02-2005, 05:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
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12-02-2005, 03:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
PurpleSky Guest Posts: n/a OS:	That should be a myth. I don't think even Microsofts Genius ! Skillfull ! Mighty ! cheap ! ( works for $20 a day - thats why MS puts Americans down and say " Americans don't have the skills and talents for our positions !!!! ) Indian programmers can do that. They are rebootoholics. Thank god we are not rebooting after every click. But of course we get what we deserve as we use it.

12-02-2005, 08:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Resolution TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,091 OS: FreeBSD/Win98/2000/XP	I'll believe it when I see it.