Do we DRILL?

rlgsbs · 08-16-2005, 01:50 PM

With the gas prices on a steady incline; DO we drill in out reserves, or Not?

$2.65 today for me

I am getting sick the increase. I am a supporter of Bush. But he needs to make a desision NOW!

Any comments?

yustr · 08-16-2005, 02:02 PM

Bad choices. Drill today = oil 10+ years from now. So what do the Saudies and (Canadians?) do over the next 10 years? Make us pay through the nose. Cause (if the oil is there) their hold on our gonads will deminish. The answer lies elsewhere.

I vote D, none of the above.

**Jason** · 08-16-2005, 02:33 PM

Big oil companies are reaping profits while the consumers pay the higher prices. In the fourth quarter of 2000, profits for fuel and utility companies jumped $7.8 billion, or 87 percent, above their year-earlier level. Meantime, profits of non-energy companies fell $18.5 billion, or 20 percent, in part because of higher fuel and electricity costs.

Funny how oil companies are doing better then ever when we have a president who has lots of friends in the oil business who have donated large sums of cash to him.

rlgsbs · 08-16-2005, 03:39 PM

If you are making Billions of dollars a year. And you already make enough money to never ever look at your check book again. Why would you keep raising prices. I mean it is like a game all the oil dudes are playing.

Who can make mor this year?

I think BP and Shell are neck to neck. Cowards!

**40sondacurb** · 08-16-2005, 04:04 PM

Yes we drill but I want the government incharge of it.

They said the last Alaskan pipeline would kill off the moose, but now the animal is thriving because their living off the heat from the heat of the pipe created by the enormous friction of all that oil rushing through it.

**Ha-y-n** · 08-16-2005, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40sondacurb

Yes we drill but I want the government incharge of it.

They said the last Alaskan pipeline would kill off the moose, but now the animal is thriving because their living off the heat from the heat of the pipe created by the enormous friction of all that oil rushing through it.

DRILL DAMMIT DRILL!!!!!!!

**Grove** · 08-16-2005, 10:22 PM

Even if they do drill if you look at the long run your not helping anyone. What we need to do is make a gether like the Live 8 concerts but instead gather scientist and make them study and think of something as fuel replacement .. Something cheaper, more effective and better to mother nature

bry623 · 08-17-2005, 07:33 AM

I say drill, but we'll beat this gas price hike like we did in 1980. Fuel conservation (shhh I know the republicans are watching), and cars that get better mileage (hybrids). We went from bug gaz guzzlers like caddies to little hondas.

**superflysmith** · 08-17-2005, 08:06 AM

Should of started drilling years ago. Better late than never. Start drilling.

**ReeKorl** · 08-17-2005, 08:17 AM

The sooner we start drilling the better.
The sooner we come close to running out the better.
The sooner people realise we're going to need something else WHEN it runs out the better.

The less we have means there's less people can fight over. If you're going to fight over something, make it worthwhile like..... Cinnamon Grahams or Golden Grahams?

**MD_Willington** · 08-17-2005, 10:32 AM

Just need more investment in the tar sands in Alberta and drop the moratorium on drilling off the coast of British Columbia, there is a LOT of oil up there, there is even speculation of a secondary rail line through BC and a new pipeline through BC and Alberta to the US...

The other options are coal oil & bio-fuels, the Germans used it 70 years ago to fuel their vehicles during WW2...USA is the Saudi Arabia of COAL...you just need to gasify the coil.

We should also look at more bio-diesel, ween the farmers off the subsidy teet and have them produce crops that could be converted to fuels, we already make so much food grains that it gets subsidized and bagged in warehouses.

Hybrids are a step in the right direction, but not a gas hybrid, a coal oil/propane/lng hybrid would be a better choice.

Hydrogen...well that's just paying back into the oil companies since they already control the most abundant sources of hydrogen, and that is crude oil.

Some will say, sea water and that makes sense, but you can't get something for nothing, to convert seawater to hydrogen gas you need a lot of power, a better source would be ammonia or NH4...

It's all very complex...

rlgsbs · 08-17-2005, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grove4Life

Even if they do drill if you look at the long run your not helping anyone. What we need to do is make a gether like the Live 8 concerts but instead gather scientist and make them study and think of something as fuel replacement .. Something cheaper, more effective and better to mother nature

What about a flux capasitor????
that is possable?!?

**LoneWolf071** · 08-17-2005, 04:22 PM

Yes... We Drill, And Those Nature Freaks Can Shove It... LOL... But We Should Do Our Best To Leave The Land In Tact... Damage Would Be BAAAAAAAAAAAAD Press...

**40sondacurb** · 08-17-2005, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReeKorl

The sooner we start drilling the better.
The sooner we come close to running out the better.
The sooner people realise we're going to need something else WHEN it runs out the better.

The less we have means there's less people can fight over. If you're going to fight over something, make it worthwhile like..... Cinnamon Grahams or Golden Grahams?

CINNAMON!

(your talking about the bears right?)

ebackhus · 08-17-2005, 06:51 PM

GOLDEN GRAHAMS!

I like the prospect of biodeisel: running your car off of something very abundant in American society which is grease. I read an article about a man who had his car converted and now his bill to "gas" his car is now $8USD a MONTH.

**Spatcher** · 08-17-2005, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlgsbs

What about a flux capasitor????
that is possable?!?

Unless you can gather an energy source of 1.12 gigawatts, then you can't travel back in time, the flux capacitor is what makes time travel possible, but to have that you need a radioactive/EXPENSIVE source of energy...

I say switch to bio-fuel, I'm not no left-wing nature freak (correct me if I said that wrong (I would fail elementary politics; I never watch the news, read the newspaper, basically I have no idea what's goin on)) but I do care for the environment.

I mean come on, as ReeKorl said: "The sooner people realise we're going to need something else WHEN it runs out the better."

Lets not get to that situation....

EDIT: I voted keep the Alaskan land, but my vote counts as a half, I hate high prices.... Grrrrrrr.....Grrrrrrrr.......

**40sondacurb** · 08-17-2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebackhus

GOLDEN GRAHAMS!

I like the prospect of biodeisel: running your car off of something very abundant in American society which is grease. I read an article about a man who had his car converted and now his bill to "gas" his car is now $8USD a MONTH.

Then you got to worry about pollution though.

But I think your right, where else can we go at this point

View Poll Results: Do we Drill?
Yes, Please!	13	86.67%
No, I like the vast land in Alaska and high prices.	1	6.67%
UUUhhh?	1	6.67%
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08-16-2005, 01:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
rlgsbs Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 193 OS: XP	Do we DRILL? With the gas prices on a steady incline; DO we drill in out reserves, or Not? $2.65 today for me I am getting sick the increase. I am a supporter of Bush. But he needs to make a desision NOW! Any comments?

08-16-2005, 02:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 4,994 OS: XP Pro My System	Bad choices. Drill today = oil 10+ years from now. So what do the Saudies and (Canadians?) do over the next 10 years? Make us pay through the nose. Cause (if the oil is there) their hold on our gonads will deminish. The answer lies elsewhere. I vote D, none of the above. __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas

08-16-2005, 02:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jason Happy Halloween Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 6,841 OS: Windows XP My System Blog Entries: 2	Big oil companies are reaping profits while the consumers pay the higher prices. In the fourth quarter of 2000, profits for fuel and utility companies jumped $7.8 billion, or 87 percent, above their year-earlier level. Meantime, profits of non-energy companies fell $18.5 billion, or 20 percent, in part because of higher fuel and electricity costs. Funny how oil companies are doing better then ever when we have a president who has lots of friends in the oil business who have donated large sums of cash to him. __________________ Posting Tips \| Advice for New People \| Common Fixes \| 60 men all lost at sea, all of them drunk except for me. 'Twas I who had to brave the storm with nothing in sight to keep me warm.

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08-16-2005, 03:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
rlgsbs Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 193 OS: XP	If you are making Billions of dollars a year. And you already make enough money to never ever look at your check book again. Why would you keep raising prices. I mean it is like a game all the oil dudes are playing. Who can make mor this year? I think BP and Shell are neck to neck. Cowards!

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08-17-2005, 07:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,621 OS: winxp pro sp2	I say drill, but we'll beat this gas price hike like we did in 1980. Fuel conservation (shhh I know the republicans are watching), and cars that get better mileage (hybrids). We went from bug gaz guzzlers like caddies to little hondas. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -Ronald Reagan

08-17-2005, 08:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
superflysmith An American Hero and Moderator, The Conversation Pit. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,576 OS: XP PRO	Should of started drilling years ago. Better late than never. Start drilling. __________________ "Some people go their whole life wondering if they ever made a difference. Marines don’t have that problem." Bush made the Packers lose

08-17-2005, 08:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
ReeKorl Superhuman Computer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 6th Circle, The City of Dis, Hell Posts: 1,610 OS: WinXP Pro SP2 My System	The sooner we start drilling the better. The sooner we come close to running out the better. The sooner people realise we're going to need something else WHEN it runs out the better. The less we have means there's less people can fight over. If you're going to fight over something, make it worthwhile like..... Cinnamon Grahams or Golden Grahams? __________________ "Sorry, the number you have dialled is imaginary. Please rotate dial by 90 degrees and try again."

08-17-2005, 10:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
MD_Willington Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WA State & BC Posts: 587 OS: XP	Just need more investment in the tar sands in Alberta and drop the moratorium on drilling off the coast of British Columbia, there is a LOT of oil up there, there is even speculation of a secondary rail line through BC and a new pipeline through BC and Alberta to the US... The other options are coal oil & bio-fuels, the Germans used it 70 years ago to fuel their vehicles during WW2...USA is the Saudi Arabia of COAL...you just need to gasify the coil. We should also look at more bio-diesel, ween the farmers off the subsidy teet and have them produce crops that could be converted to fuels, we already make so much food grains that it gets subsidized and bagged in warehouses. Hybrids are a step in the right direction, but not a gas hybrid, a coal oil/propane/lng hybrid would be a better choice. Hydrogen...well that's just paying back into the oil companies since they already control the most abundant sources of hydrogen, and that is crude oil. Some will say, sea water and that makes sense, but you can't get something for nothing, to convert seawater to hydrogen gas you need a lot of power, a better source would be ammonia or NH4... It's all very complex... __________________ Mainboard: PCC M848ALU / ECS L7S7A2 / ECS 748-A, HDD: Western Digital 40Gb, RAM: 2-256Mb DDR266 by Micron 4x AGP Card: 3DForce4-MX440, CDRW: Liteon 52x32x52, PSU: Antec True430, CPU: XP2200+ (AXDA2200DUV3C) *It's OK to be ignorant; it's not OK to play stupid.* *Never assume you are entitled to an answer. You are not.*

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