In the we all hate spam but this much department...

**Doonz** · 07-26-2005, 06:44 AM

http://mosnews.com/news/2005/07/25/spammerdead.shtml

Russia’s Biggest Spammer Brutally Murdered in Apartment
Created: 25.07.2005 13:14 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 16:29 MSK, 8 minutes ago

MosNews

Vardan Kushnir, notorious for sending spam to each and every citizen of Russia who appeared to have an e-mail, was found dead in his Moscow apartment on Sunday, Interfax reported Monday. He died after suffering repeated blows to the head.

Kushnir, 35, headed the English learning centers the Center for American English, the New York English Centre and the Centre for Spoken English, all known to have aggressive Internet advertising policies in which millions of e-mails were sent every day.

In the past angry Internet users have targeted the American English centre by publishing the Center’s telephone numbers anywhere on the Web to provoke telephone calls. The Center’s telephone was advertised as a contact number for cheap sex services, or bargain real estate sales.

Another attack involved hundreds of people making phone calls to the American English Center and sending it numerous e-mails back, but Vardan Kushnir remained sure of his right to spam, saying it was what e-mails were for.

Under Russian law, spamming is not considered illegal, although lawmakers are working on legal projects that could protect Russian Internet users like they do in Europe and the U.S.

~~Leroy77~~ · 07-26-2005, 10:50 AM

Call me a bad person, but I couldn't help but laugh a little. Who here hasn't wanted to strangle a spammer at one time or another? He sounded pretty brazen though: "that's what email is for". When you piss off that many people you have to realize you're no longer safe, because all it takes is one person who's willing to put a stop to what you're doing.

**Fox** · 07-26-2005, 11:20 AM

Still that's pretty horrible. I don't think he deserved any of that- he may have been a jerk, but he didn't kill anybody with his spam.

**DumberDrummer** · 07-26-2005, 12:10 PM

That's terrible. Its like giving the death penalty for stealing or something.

And it wasn't even illegal.

**40sondacurb** · 07-26-2005, 12:13 PM

couldn't they just break his thumbs or something?

Russians deal with enough crap being that you could probably get more money recycling their bills than spending them; they don't need people like him making their lives that much worse.

**Fox** · 07-26-2005, 12:16 PM

If I had to guess, it was probably for something a little more pressing than spam that got this guy killed.

**DumberDrummer** · 07-26-2005, 01:11 PM

If you broke his thumbs then all of his messages would read like this:

doyouwanttoincreaseyour*****sizeovernight?buyashipmentof******orcialistodayand...

you get the point. No spaces.

~~Leroy77~~ · 07-26-2005, 01:14 PM

I have to agree with 40sondacurb. The way some Russians live is enough to give many people a short fuse. This Kushnir guy may have set himself up as a convenient target for some pent up rage. BTW, good one DumberDrummer.

**40sondacurb** · 07-26-2005, 02:21 PM

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07-26-2005, 06:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Doonz S.W.A.T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,481 OS: WinXP, Vista, MAC 10.x	In the we all hate spam but this much department... http://mosnews.com/news/2005/07/25/spammerdead.shtml Russia’s Biggest Spammer Brutally Murdered in Apartment Created: 25.07.2005 13:14 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 16:29 MSK, 8 minutes ago MosNews Vardan Kushnir, notorious for sending spam to each and every citizen of Russia who appeared to have an e-mail, was found dead in his Moscow apartment on Sunday, Interfax reported Monday. He died after suffering repeated blows to the head. Kushnir, 35, headed the English learning centers the Center for American English, the New York English Centre and the Centre for Spoken English, all known to have aggressive Internet advertising policies in which millions of e-mails were sent every day. In the past angry Internet users have targeted the American English centre by publishing the Center’s telephone numbers anywhere on the Web to provoke telephone calls. The Center’s telephone was advertised as a contact number for cheap sex services, or bargain real estate sales. Another attack involved hundreds of people making phone calls to the American English Center and sending it numerous e-mails back, but Vardan Kushnir remained sure of his right to spam, saying it was what e-mails were for. Under Russian law, spamming is not considered illegal, although lawmakers are working on legal projects that could protect Russian Internet users like they do in Europe and the U.S. __________________ Simple Wise-A%$ Techie

07-26-2005, 12:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
DumberDrummer Cymru am byth Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,385 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	That's terrible. Its like giving the death penalty for stealing or something. And it wasn't even illegal. __________________ Living with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane _____________________________________________ ... and with those words so begins my lifetime of longing for the devil's warm embrace

07-26-2005, 12:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
40sondacurb Don't be a menace Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,285 OS: Vista sp2	couldn't they just break his thumbs or something? Russians deal with enough crap being that you could probably get more money recycling their bills than spending them; they don't need people like him making their lives that much worse. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running Last edited by 40sondacurb; 07-26-2005 at 12:15 PM.

07-26-2005, 01:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
DumberDrummer Cymru am byth Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,385 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	If you broke his thumbs then all of his messages would read like this: doyouwanttoincreaseyour***sizeovernight?buyashipmentof****orcialistodayand... you get the point. No spaces. __________________ Living with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane _____________________________________________ ... and with those words so begins my lifetime of longing for the devil's warm embrace

07-26-2005, 02:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
40sondacurb Don't be a menace Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,285 OS: Vista sp2	heydummberyoursonglistisempty,mightwanttoplayasongortwotofillitup.Manit'srealyhardtotypelikethis,shouldhavepaidmybookie. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running

07-26-2005, 10:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
~~Leroy77~~ Permanently Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 236 OS: Windows XP Pro/2000 Pro	Call me a bad person, but I couldn't help but laugh a little. Who here hasn't wanted to strangle a spammer at one time or another? He sounded pretty brazen though: "that's what email is for". When you piss off that many people you have to realize you're no longer safe, because all it takes is one person who's willing to put a stop to what you're doing.

07-26-2005, 11:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
Fox TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 7,752 OS: XP Pro, CentOS My System	Still that's pretty horrible. I don't think he deserved any of that- he may have been a jerk, but he didn't kill anybody with his spam.

07-26-2005, 12:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Fox TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 7,752 OS: XP Pro, CentOS My System	If I had to guess, it was probably for something a little more pressing than spam that got this guy killed.

07-26-2005, 01:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
~~Leroy77~~ Permanently Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 236 OS: Windows XP Pro/2000 Pro	I have to agree with 40sondacurb. The way some Russians live is enough to give many people a short fuse. This Kushnir guy may have set himself up as a convenient target for some pent up rage. BTW, good one DumberDrummer.