bry623

I have been noticing alot of those magnet ribbons that people have on their cars tha say support our troops. It stems back to the Vietnam era where the would tie yellow ribbons showing their support for their soldiers. In more recent times, a pink ribbon was used to show awarness for breast cancer; another good cause. Now these ribbons have been transfered to our vehicle. My wife got one from the Red Cross after donating blood: another worhty cause.

My Rant is that in the past few days I have seen other not so worthy ones: A rainbow colored one which had "Gay Rights" in it, a black and yellow one that said "Go Pittsburgh"-- for example. I think these kind sort of invalidate the initial intent of the ribbons. They are becoming so passe, that no one will notice them anymore and they will get stored along side with the fuzzy dice, baby on board stickers and garifeld in the attic of bad car accessories.

CTSNKY

Oh, I agree, bry. These kinds of "fads".....ribbons, bumper stickers, t-shirts....all seem to start with one good idea and end up "bastardized" by those wanting to jump on the bandwagon to make a buck.

This is why I don't put ANYTHING on my car. Add to that, that you can look ridiculous still driving around with a Dole 2000 bumper sticker.

jgvernonco

One of my Mother-in-law's neighbors still has a "Impeach Bush" bumper sticker on her car.

After the election, I saw her one day and told her that she really should take that bumper sticker off. "Why"?, she asked, appearing a bit huffy. "Well", I said, "anyone with half a brain would realize that what the bumper sticker realy says is "Dick Cheney for President".

I had to walk away because I was uncomfortable staring at her tonsils.

Jason

I agree they are kinda of a fad. But can't say too much. My dad makes small ribbons for the guys in his HOG chapter and who ever else asks. He just makes two though. The yellow ribbion for supporting the troupes, and a black/white for MIA.

dai

free enterprise
anything dangling here i.e dice
they can pull you over and sticker your car as unroadworthy,turns into a very expensive exercise

Fox

Yep, in NJ you can get pulled over for having an air freshener if it's hanging from the rearview mirror. Also, you can't wear earphones- this kind of confuses me. If you can't wear earphones, how is it possible to have a cell phone headset. And, assuming that would be illegal too, how about those people who are blasting music at like 900dB?

dai

here it is an offense to hold a mobile,you have to have headphones and a mike or an expensive speakers and mike set up,you still reguarly see people with their phones to their ear or doing sms messages

ValerieWC

I'm not in favor of any of them - I want to support our troops by bringing them home. But I do have a question - why is Gay rights less important than supporting our troops?

Valerie

Volt-Schwibe

basically, i would say that gay rights aren't actually less significant, but with the ribbons for troops, breast cancer, missing in action/ prisoner of war, and things like those, human life has been lost, and is in constant danger of being lost, and that makes it more of a life and death thing.

even though gay rights is a very complicated issue in our world, we arent losing 1000's of gay people (i don't mean to insult) each year to "gay cancer" or anything, and they aren't thousands of miles away getting their heads blown off in the name of "diplomacy"


and personally, i think that the ribbons that all started it are the only real ones, and any others are definately "bastardizing" the concept for everyone else.

95five-0

I think these ribbons that support the troops are great but the only thing I can think every time I see one is. That area of the paint is going to be screwed when they decide to remove that. We had some magnets on vechiles at work and when they got take off..... well lets just say there is still as perfect outline of them on the truacks. My advice is to make sure you remove them if it rain and when you wash your car, so will keep water from getting trapped in there and rusting your car.

epos159

I love the idea of having a ribbon showing my support of our troups! I love my country and those who are willing to give their lives for it. My cousin who is a SSgt in the Air Force doing evacs of the wounded reminded some people that they have volunteered to be there fighting on our behalf! He was saying how that even when these men/women are on the plane heading for Germany or the States that they say how they wish they were back with their unit in Iraq! That's dedication for ya! So, I feel the least I can do is try to show a little support for them!

But as has been stated, I hate the fact that it is just being made into a fad where people forget what it's there for. It's more just to fit in... I think it a shame to have one for anything less than a life or death matter.

bry623

Because the troops are defending the way of American life and all of our freedoms, and some of them don't really want to be. Gays only promote their own intersts in their parades and I am sure that a homosexual is where they want to be, not where their boss told them to go. For those who remember my George W Bush avatar, you will know that I voted for my state's defense of marriage amendment that overwhelmingly passed as the toughest anti-gay marriage law in the country.

epos159

How I wish my state had done the same!

Chevy

Remember, these are my opinions:

1 - re: Those troops who don't want to be in Iraq (or elsewhere) -(directed at those who want the military benefits such as education and health care, but cry Conscientuous Objector when faced with a deployment) They shouldn't have joined in the first place. On top of that, I see them as unworthy of the privilege of wearing the uniform. Sorry, it's a very sore spot with me.

2 - I am a conservative. I am pro-Bush. But I am also against the government's unwillingness to recognize gay marriage. The government needs to look at marriage as a legal contract between two consenting adults. That's all. Let the churches worry about the morality issues.

Volt-Schwibe

i'm a homophobic straight male, and even i 100% agree that gay marraige is NOT a concern our government should bother with.

it should be legal. let the churches worry about matters of the flesh and sin, since that's their department.

although, as long as the words "under god" remain in our pledge of allegience, we give the impression of a country that is based on religion, so maybe the state feels it is their busines who people can and cannot marry.

bry623

Sorry pal, but you live in one of those "blue" states. Home of great liberals like Bon Jovi and Springsteen

We are. We are part of the neo-conservative Christian right. In Ohio, it wasn't the government that put the marriage amendment on the ballot. It was the effort of citizens like myself who signed and distributed petitions. We got enough signatures by law to have it on the ballot. Lawyers fine tuned the wording of the law pro bono and the PEOPLE overwhwlmingly passed it.
Where is the government in that? Our piece of c*** governor, Bob Taft was against it. Senators Voinovich and DeWine were against it. The only government official who supported it was our soon to be next governor, Secretary of State Ken Blackwell.

The whole point of this is that in Ohio we don't want judges legislating from the bench. We don't want to have to recoginze a union that was entered into from another state ie. MA or CA. But the constitution says that states have to respect the laws of other states. That is why we need a constitutional amendment. Not to ban gay marriages (I am aginst that, but I do think civil unions should have some rights), but to allow the individual states to decide the issue.

"...this government of the people, by the people, for the people...."- Abraham Lincoln 16th President of The United States

epos159

Before I begin I want you to know that I do not hate homosexuals, but I certainly do not condone their lifestyle... it is sin.

This is an issue that is vital to the well being of our country. In fact, most homosexuals are not faithful to just one or a few partners, but often have several partners which also results in wide spread disease. Pretty graphic, but gets the point across http://www.homosexuellt.com/infosida...e.asp?Idnr=207
Also a Gallup poll showed that a vast majority of Americans are against homo marriages.

I would just hate for America to become a modern day Sodom (Genesis 19)!

crisis

Gotta say all this makes me feel glad I live in the UK. Mind you that Blair fellow isn't too great either...