New pictures that leave minister over-exposed

mimo2005 · 10-28-2007, 06:29 AM

The Culture Secretary had appeared late for the event at Tameside General Hospital, in Greater Manchester, and missed the official photo opportunity with the other politicians – only to subsequently appear in group press photographs of the ceremony.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...-mostviewedbox

DonaldG · 10-28-2007, 07:17 AM

Lousey Photoshop job - They could have atleast sharpened his image to match the rest before publishing it - Gee, most everyone here could do better!

~~Nik00117~~ · 10-28-2007, 02:40 PM

Looks like a very difficult picture to add another figure in really. Picture is far to full as it is.

**EnglishPaul** · 10-28-2007, 03:28 PM

If this image was bound for a newspaper, then I doubt the subtleties would be seen.

What gets me is the bit in the article:
Two weeks earlier, in a speech to the Royal Television Society, Mr Purnell said: "In both politics and television you devalue the only currency you have if you forfeit the trust of the public."

We elect our MPs to represent our wishes, and to make wise decisions. And yet time and time again, the daily process of politics is based on bad decision after bad decision.
How can we trust someone who makes a bad decision about a photo to not make bad decisions about legislation?

DonaldG · 10-29-2007, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnglishPaul

If this image was bound for a newspaper, then I doubt the subtleties would be seen.

In fact, the image was shown on TV, showing the newspaper photograph and the 'subtleties were very obvious.

That particular set of images would be very easy to match in seamlessly - It was a rush jub, done shoddily.

Before you ask, yes, I could have done it better and so could the vast majority of most of us who do image maniputation.

**TheAtheist** · 10-29-2007, 05:19 AM

Yeah, if you look carefully, the light looks wrong on that guys face and his posture looks wrong. Its easy to fix, shoddy workmanship really

DonaldG · 10-29-2007, 07:31 AM

Also note that the single photo was take from a lower angle and when merged, he is not looking 'up' as much as them.

Also in his photo the 'fill in' flash was stronger (see the faint shadow) whosh wouls account for some of the difference in lighting.

**EnglishPaul** · 10-29-2007, 04:46 PM

It is interesting that you see the only issue to be the quality of the edit!

DonaldG · 10-29-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnglishPaul

It is interesting that you see the only issue to be the quality of the edit!

infering?

**EnglishPaul** · 10-29-2007, 04:57 PM

No inference.

I look at the story and think about the integrity of the politicians, the motivation of the hospital worker and the futility of it all.
You seem to see the lack of attainment in the 'airbrushing'.

So I wonder, if the edit was good, would you still care?

It makes me wonder, again, whether man went to the moon. But that's a bit of a random connection! And when the Chinese go, they can settle the argument once and for all.

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 10-29-2007, 05:20 PM

Well....they brought back rocks.....

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 10-29-2007, 05:49 PM

wow i dont know why i said that coming back lol....

**-=Rousseau=-** · 10-29-2007, 09:11 PM

If China gets there and there is no plaque/flag, I wonder what the government's excuse will be? Aliens took it?

**scathe30** · 10-30-2007, 05:46 AM

I think that the Iranians should get there first. To accuse the zionist regime and mr. Bush of innuendo

**simpswr** · 10-30-2007, 08:10 AM

Next they will hold a fake press conference???

DonaldG · 10-30-2007, 08:17 AM

Too late - all political press conferences are fake.

**DumberDrummer** · 10-30-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EnglishPaul

No inference.

I look at the story and think about the integrity of the politicians, the motivation of the hospital worker and the futility of it all.
You seem to see the lack of attainment in the 'airbrushing'.

So I wonder, if the edit was good, would you still care?

It makes me wonder, again, whether man went to the moon. But that's a bit of a random connection! And when the Chinese go, they can settle the argument once and for all.

How do you know the chinese are really gonna go?

**EnglishPaul** · 10-31-2007, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DumberDrummer

How do you know the chinese are really gonna go?

[oops, took this thread a bit off topic.]
I heard something about it on BBC Radio 4.
I understand that the Chinese are just about to explore the moon, unmanned, with the stated aim of putting a man on the moon in the future.

I think that they have all to gain, and much to prove to the world. And so if they can financially sustain it, it will happen.
What is more interesting is that the analyst interviewed on Radio 4 thought that America would send another man to the moon if China begins to get close.

**DumberDrummer** · 10-31-2007, 02:55 PM

I mean, how do you know the chinese won't fake a landing too?

**EnglishPaul** · 10-31-2007, 02:58 PM

Its only a guess, but telescopes and satellites and other technology are bound to be able to track a craft to the moon and back (or not).

Anyway, I've always thought of the Chinese as trustworthy.

10-28-2007, 06:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
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DonaldG Manager Home Support, Assistant Manager Articles Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 10,164 OS: XPsp2 Laptop & Vista Ultimate Desktop My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed Lousey Photoshop job - They could have atleast sharpened his image to match the rest before publishing it - Gee, most everyone here could do better! __________________ . Lest we forget... "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." Submit New Articles Here TSF's Photographer's Corner .

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~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed Looks like a very difficult picture to add another figure in really. Picture is far to full as it is.

10-28-2007, 03:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
EnglishPaul Still no avatar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,314 OS: XP SP2 Blog Entries: 9	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed If this image was bound for a newspaper, then I doubt the subtleties would be seen. What gets me is the bit in the article: Two weeks earlier, in a speech to the Royal Television Society, Mr Purnell said: "In both politics and television you devalue the only currency you have if you forfeit the trust of the public." We elect our MPs to represent our wishes, and to make wise decisions. And yet time and time again, the daily process of politics is based on bad decision after bad decision. How can we trust someone who makes a bad decision about a photo to not make bad decisions about legislation?

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TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed Yeah, if you look carefully, the light looks wrong on that guys face and his posture looks wrong. Its easy to fix, shoddy workmanship really __________________ Submit New Articles "Freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds, which follows from the advance of science" - Darwin Join the TSF folding team - Team 85015

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DonaldG Manager Home Support, Assistant Manager Articles Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 10,164 OS: XPsp2 Laptop & Vista Ultimate Desktop My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed Also note that the single photo was take from a lower angle and when merged, he is not looking 'up' as much as them. Also in his photo the 'fill in' flash was stronger (see the faint shadow) whosh wouls account for some of the difference in lighting. __________________ . Lest we forget... "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." Submit New Articles Here TSF's Photographer's Corner .

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EnglishPaul Still no avatar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,314 OS: XP SP2 Blog Entries: 9	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed It is interesting that you see the only issue to be the quality of the edit!

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EnglishPaul Still no avatar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,314 OS: XP SP2 Blog Entries: 9	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed No inference. I look at the story and think about the integrity of the politicians, the motivation of the hospital worker and the futility of it all. You seem to see the lack of attainment in the 'airbrushing'. So I wonder, if the edit was good, would you still care? It makes me wonder, again, whether man went to the moon. But that's a bit of a random connection! And when the Chinese go, they can settle the argument once and for all.

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DonaldG Manager Home Support, Assistant Manager Articles Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 10,164 OS: XPsp2 Laptop & Vista Ultimate Desktop My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed Too late - all political press conferences are fake. __________________ . Lest we forget... "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." Submit New Articles Here TSF's Photographer's Corner .

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EnglishPaul Still no avatar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,314 OS: XP SP2 Blog Entries: 9	Re: New pictures that leave minister over-exposed Its only a guess, but telescopes and satellites and other technology are bound to be able to track a craft to the moon and back (or not). Anyway, I've always thought of the Chinese as trustworthy.