Languages - Page 6

**ashumann12** · 10-04-2007, 09:11 AM

I guess so. Someone must have taken it personal. I'm good with it all.

kinbard · 10-04-2007, 09:39 AM

I just realized, eneles. Earlier I said that I've not seen the migration of t to ch, but I have. Cherokee does it. tsulagi (there name for Cherokee) is pronounced with ch for ts. Not sure if both nations pronounce it that way, though.

**Deleted090308** · 10-04-2007, 09:47 AM

Cherokee is pronounced Scherokee in Swedish, but pay no notice to that. We can't understand the rules ourselves.

We don't use ts-, except for in tsunami, but that word entered our language about three years ago after the disaster in Asia.

kinbard · 10-04-2007, 09:49 AM

Are there a lot of s and sch sounds in Swedish? Seems so.

**Deleted090308** · 10-04-2007, 09:55 AM

The sch-sounds can be spelt sch-, ch-, k-, tj-, sh-, stj- and sj.

kinbard · 10-04-2007, 09:56 AM

Is it a case driven language like Russian, or more like English?

**Deleted090308** · 10-04-2007, 11:03 AM

I haven't got a clue - don't know Russian.

kinbard · 10-04-2007, 02:55 PM

I mean, is sentence structure dependent on word order or word endings?

**Deleted090308** · 10-04-2007, 03:05 PM

It's word order - especially imperative.

kinbard · 10-04-2007, 03:13 PM

Grammar hard?

**Deleted090308** · 10-04-2007, 03:22 PM

Please don't confuse me - grammar isn't exactly my speciality.

Swedish is more like English - and Danish is a lot like German. You would think that Swedes and Danes could (easily) understand each other - but no way! Not to mention Icelandic. Swedish and Norwegian are more related (I think).

**scathe30** · 10-05-2007, 12:10 AM

Can you explain to me the etimology of 'mushroom'?
What is 'mush' and how is it related to 'room' or is it just a case of homonymy?

kinbard · 10-05-2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scathe30

Can you explain to me the etimology of 'mushroom'?
What is 'mush' and how is it related to 'room' or is it just a case of homonymy?

Please forgive me if you are not joking, but this is funny. It is like ashumann12 parallel in the English thread with driveway/parkway. But it brings up an interesting point; how did this word evolve in the English language?

**Kalim** · 10-07-2007, 03:32 AM

I'm not going to tell you why some Western terms are extremely repugnant and also hilarious to many in non-English speaking regions. Such as what LAN means in around 9-10 Eastern languages...

It's a pejorative that you will never hear used but by the foulest ribald mouthed.

kinbard · 10-07-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalim

I'm not going to tell you why some Western terms are extremely repugnant and also hilarious to many in non-English speaking regions. Such as what LAN means in around 9-10 Eastern languages...

It's a pejorative that you will never hear used but by the foulest ribald mouthed.

Ahhh, local society determines meaning, yet meaning bereft of understanding. The proverbial catch 22. Kalim, once again you throw the line to fish, but who will bite? Kudos to those who listen.

**Kalim** · 10-08-2007, 12:20 PM

Kinbard: Any idea how many known Native American languages there are, still surviving, known and discovered?

Time to get wowed.

And that's incomplete.

kinbard · 10-08-2007, 12:37 PM

I used that site on a speech I gave on language extinction. It is simply amazing the number on native languages there are/were. Pity so many are extinct without ever being documented.

**Deleted090308** · 10-09-2007, 01:43 PM

Many languages are (slowly) on their way towards extinction. Danish, for example, doesn't have its own words for computer, download, weekend, teenager etc, whereas Swedish (thankfully) has: dator, nedladdning, helg, tonåring.

kinbard · 10-09-2007, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eneles

Many languages are (slowly) on their way towards extinction. Danish, for example, doesn't have its own words for computer, download, weekend, teenager etc, whereas Swedish (thankfully) has: dator, nedladdning, helg, tonåring.

Yeah, I've seen that with other words like television too. Luckily, I don't see a chance of any of the major groups dying out. The picture is sadder for the smaller groups

10-04-2007, 09:11 AM	#101 (permalink)
ashumann12 Life is a zero sum game Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alabama-usa Posts: 3,916 OS: Vista Ultimate SP1 (64bit) My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Languages I guess so. Someone must have taken it personal. I'm good with it all. __________________ Adam Sr.

10-04-2007, 09:39 AM	#102 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,365 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages I just realized, eneles. Earlier I said that I've not seen the migration of t to ch, but I have. Cherokee does it. tsulagi (there name for Cherokee) is pronounced with ch for ts. Not sure if both nations pronounce it that way, though. __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

10-04-2007, 09:47 AM	#103 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,281 OS: Xp	Re: Languages Cherokee is pronounced Scherokee in Swedish, but pay no notice to that. We can't understand the rules ourselves. We don't use ts-, except for in tsunami, but that word entered our language about three years ago after the disaster in Asia.

10-04-2007, 09:49 AM	#104 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,365 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages Are there a lot of s and sch sounds in Swedish? Seems so. __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

10-04-2007, 09:55 AM	#105 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,281 OS: Xp	Re: Languages The sch-sounds can be spelt sch-, ch-, k-, tj-, sh-, stj- and sj.

10-04-2007, 09:56 AM	#106 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,365 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages Is it a case driven language like Russian, or more like English? __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

10-04-2007, 11:03 AM	#107 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,281 OS: Xp	Re: Languages I haven't got a clue - don't know Russian.

10-04-2007, 02:55 PM	#108 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,365 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages I mean, is sentence structure dependent on word order or word endings? __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

10-04-2007, 03:05 PM	#109 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,281 OS: Xp	Re: Languages It's word order - especially imperative.

10-04-2007, 03:13 PM	#110 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,365 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages Grammar hard? __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

10-04-2007, 03:22 PM	#111 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,281 OS: Xp	Re: Languages Please don't confuse me - grammar isn't exactly my speciality. Swedish is more like English - and Danish is a lot like German. You would think that Swedes and Danes could (easily) understand each other - but no way! Not to mention Icelandic. Swedish and Norwegian are more related (I think).

10-05-2007, 12:10 AM	#112 (permalink)
scathe30 Land of bears and vodka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 837 OS: MacOs,Windows	Re: Languages Can you explain to me the etimology of 'mushroom'? What is 'mush' and how is it related to 'room' or is it just a case of homonymy? __________________ The moving finger writes; and having writ Moves on, nor all thy Piety, nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a line Nor all thy Tears wash out a word of it...

10-07-2007, 03:32 AM	#114 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,609 OS: Many	Re: Languages I'm not going to tell you why some Western terms are extremely repugnant and also hilarious to many in non-English speaking regions. Such as what LAN means in around 9-10 Eastern languages... It's a pejorative that you will never hear used but by the foulest ribald mouthed.

10-08-2007, 12:20 PM	#116 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,609 OS: Many	Re: Languages Kinbard: Any idea how many known Native American languages there are, still surviving, known and discovered? Time to get wowed. And that's incomplete.

10-08-2007, 12:37 PM	#117 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,365 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages I used that site on a speech I gave on language extinction. It is simply amazing the number on native languages there are/were. Pity so many are extinct without ever being documented. __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

10-09-2007, 01:43 PM	#118 (permalink)
Deleted090308 Not... Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22,281 OS: Xp	Re: Languages Many languages are (slowly) on their way towards extinction. Danish, for example, doesn't have its own words for computer, download, weekend, teenager etc, whereas Swedish (thankfully) has: dator, nedladdning, helg, tonåring.