Languages - Page 4

**eneles** · 09-28-2007, 12:07 PM

Isn't Romanian very similar to Italian?
And, I think, Hungarian, Estonian and Finnish are closely related.

kinbard · 09-28-2007, 12:09 PM

Romanian is in the same family as Italian, Spanish, French etc, the Romance family branch off of Latin. I believe Hungarian is Indo-European as well, but I have to check on that.

Edit: I'm wrong. It belongs to the Finno-Ugric family.

**eneles** · 09-28-2007, 12:20 PM

I have some Romanian friends and it sounds almost like Italian when they speak.

kinbard · 09-28-2007, 12:33 PM

I've heard it spoken one time, and that was from someone helping me with Russian. Unfortuantely, he moved shortly after I came across him. It is so hard to find someone who speaks a language like Russian I have actually looked through the telephone book for Russian names and called them to see if the spoke Russian

**eneles** · 09-28-2007, 01:00 PM

My mother speaks Russian (she's from Estonia).

kinbard · 09-28-2007, 01:02 PM

There is a family here that are from yugoslavia that I came into contact with. It is similar, and probably the closest I will get.

**eneles** · 09-28-2007, 01:28 PM

Do they use the Cyrillic alphabet? Or is it Bulgaria?

kinbard · 09-28-2007, 01:29 PM

I think they use the Roman. Will have to ask. Its hard to keep straight who uses what alphabet in that part of the world.

**eneles** · 09-28-2007, 01:35 PM

Anyway - I'd like to know Greek properly (have to get Sakis involved in this thread

). I can read Greek (almost) but the pronunciation????

kinbard · 09-28-2007, 01:37 PM

Never looked into Greek. There is a program I use called Languages of the World that lets you hear the language spoken. I thing Greek might be on it. There's like 30 languages.

**Kalim** · 10-01-2007, 08:38 PM

I understand bits of Greek, Koine Greek, from scriptural, historical and literature studies. Would possibly be willing to learn it later, at a more serious level, if and when need be, but there's too much of it in our lives so I have no further interest in it. Near enough every Westernized name for everything is based on the Greek language and is non-intuitive to us, but intuitive to them. I studied with a few Greeks many years back who spoke English with a Hellas accent and even though their spoken English was weak compared to a native English, their understanding of the words was far better in all sciences and applications because it's their words the West uses, even in Christianity, and much of Latin which is derived directly from it.

i.e. Ta Biblia - The Books (Bible)

**ashumann12** · 10-02-2007, 12:00 AM

My mom could speek Rusian, German, Italian, and french. I lost a great resorce when she died in '97. In high school I took Latin and french. Lost all the french but the latin has helped me a little. I was raised in the Catholic church, the old latin masses were beautiful to listen to. I learned just enough German to get around Gemany but now can only order a dark viesen and a snitchele sandwich! The catholic mass sounds cool in German too.

**scathe30** · 10-02-2007, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinbard

Shakkar sounds like russian for sugar, if I remember correctly.

It will be "Сахар" - just like Sakhar. Yes, the words are similar. It is ''Shekar'' in Persian BTW

**eneles** · 10-02-2007, 01:42 AM

"Socker" in Swedish.

**scathe30** · 10-02-2007, 02:08 AM

See, it all has one forefather word.

Wikipedia claims that this word originates from the Sanscrit language - शर्करा (śarkarā) — 'sweet'.

**Kalim** · 10-02-2007, 02:56 AM

Yes, it's an Indian word too, found in Telugu as well. It could very easily have originated from Sanskrit depending on how old they have evidence of. If it's pre-1000 AD then it'll most likely be from their language.

kinbard · 10-02-2007, 08:47 AM

Lets see if we can find other words that can be traced like this word for sugar. Anyone got any ideas offhand?

**eneles** · 10-02-2007, 09:13 AM

Mother, father - mama, papa. Ship?

09-28-2007, 12:07 PM	#61 (permalink)
eneles Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sweden/Denmark Posts: 21,205 OS: 98SE/XP SP3/Vista SP1/Ubuntu 8.04 My System	Re: Languages Isn't Romanian very similar to Italian? And, I think, Hungarian, Estonian and Finnish are closely related. __________________ Click the banner for links

09-28-2007, 12:09 PM	#62 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,327 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages Romanian is in the same family as Italian, Spanish, French etc, the Romance family branch off of Latin. I believe Hungarian is Indo-European as well, but I have to check on that. Edit: I'm wrong. It belongs to the Finno-Ugric family. __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair Last edited by kinbard : 09-28-2007 at 12:11 PM.

09-28-2007, 12:20 PM	#63 (permalink)
eneles Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sweden/Denmark Posts: 21,205 OS: 98SE/XP SP3/Vista SP1/Ubuntu 8.04 My System	Re: Languages I have some Romanian friends and it sounds almost like Italian when they speak. __________________ Click the banner for links

09-28-2007, 12:33 PM	#64 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,327 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages I've heard it spoken one time, and that was from someone helping me with Russian. Unfortuantely, he moved shortly after I came across him. It is so hard to find someone who speaks a language like Russian I have actually looked through the telephone book for Russian names and called them to see if the spoke Russian __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

09-28-2007, 01:00 PM	#65 (permalink)
eneles Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sweden/Denmark Posts: 21,205 OS: 98SE/XP SP3/Vista SP1/Ubuntu 8.04 My System	Re: Languages My mother speaks Russian (she's from Estonia). __________________ Click the banner for links

09-28-2007, 01:02 PM	#66 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,327 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages There is a family here that are from yugoslavia that I came into contact with. It is similar, and probably the closest I will get. __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

09-28-2007, 01:28 PM	#67 (permalink)
eneles Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sweden/Denmark Posts: 21,205 OS: 98SE/XP SP3/Vista SP1/Ubuntu 8.04 My System	Re: Languages Do they use the Cyrillic alphabet? Or is it Bulgaria? __________________ Click the banner for links

09-28-2007, 01:29 PM	#68 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,327 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages I think they use the Roman. Will have to ask. Its hard to keep straight who uses what alphabet in that part of the world. __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

09-28-2007, 01:35 PM	#69 (permalink)
eneles Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sweden/Denmark Posts: 21,205 OS: 98SE/XP SP3/Vista SP1/Ubuntu 8.04 My System	Re: Languages Anyway - I'd like to know Greek properly (have to get Sakis involved in this thread ). I can read Greek (almost) but the pronunciation???? __________________ Click the banner for links

09-28-2007, 01:37 PM	#70 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,327 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages Never looked into Greek. There is a program I use called Languages of the World that lets you hear the language spoken. I thing Greek might be on it. There's like 30 languages. __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

10-01-2007, 08:38 PM	#71 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,538 OS: Many	Re: Languages I understand bits of Greek, Koine Greek, from scriptural, historical and literature studies. Would possibly be willing to learn it later, at a more serious level, if and when need be, but there's too much of it in our lives so I have no further interest in it. Near enough every Westernized name for everything is based on the Greek language and is non-intuitive to us, but intuitive to them. I studied with a few Greeks many years back who spoke English with a Hellas accent and even though their spoken English was weak compared to a native English, their understanding of the words was far better in all sciences and applications because it's their words the West uses, even in Christianity, and much of Latin which is derived directly from it. i.e. Ta Biblia - The Books (Bible)

10-02-2007, 12:00 AM	#72 (permalink)
ashumann12 Life is a zero sum game Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alabama-usa Posts: 3,792 OS: Vista Ultimate SP1 (64bit) My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Languages My mom could speek Rusian, German, Italian, and french. I lost a great resorce when she died in '97. In high school I took Latin and french. Lost all the french but the latin has helped me a little. I was raised in the Catholic church, the old latin masses were beautiful to listen to. I learned just enough German to get around Gemany but now can only order a dark viesen and a snitchele sandwich! The catholic mass sounds cool in German too. __________________ Adam Sr.

10-02-2007, 01:42 AM	#74 (permalink)
eneles Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sweden/Denmark Posts: 21,205 OS: 98SE/XP SP3/Vista SP1/Ubuntu 8.04 My System	Re: Languages "Socker" in Swedish. __________________ Click the banner for links

10-02-2007, 02:08 AM	#75 (permalink)
scathe30 Land of bears and vodka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 837 OS: MacOs,Windows	Re: Languages See, it all has one forefather word. Wikipedia claims that this word originates from the Sanscrit language - शर्करा (śarkarā) — 'sweet'. __________________ The moving finger writes; and having writ Moves on, nor all thy Piety, nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a line Nor all thy Tears wash out a word of it...

10-02-2007, 02:56 AM	#76 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,538 OS: Many	Re: Languages Yes, it's an Indian word too, found in Telugu as well. It could very easily have originated from Sanskrit depending on how old they have evidence of. If it's pre-1000 AD then it'll most likely be from their language.

10-02-2007, 08:47 AM	#77 (permalink)
kinbard Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,327 OS: Solaris 10, XP,SuSE10, 10.3,11, Freespire,PCLinuxOS, Vista HP, and a partridge in a pear tree	Re: Languages Lets see if we can find other words that can be traced like this word for sugar. Anyone got any ideas offhand? __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both 5 Steps XP Repair

10-02-2007, 09:13 AM	#78 (permalink)
eneles Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sweden/Denmark Posts: 21,205 OS: 98SE/XP SP3/Vista SP1/Ubuntu 8.04 My System	Re: Languages Mother, father - mama, papa. Ship? __________________ Click the banner for links