eBay Scammer on Judge Judy

mimo2005 · 02-24-2007, 07:47 PM

Auction of the day : 2 cellphones ( photos only )

the scammer got pawned !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic3oWv2a_ms

5000$ ,ouch !

JohnthePilot · 02-24-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mimo2005

Auction of the day : 2 cellphones ( photos only )

the scammer got pawned !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic3oWv2a_ms

5000$ ,ouch !

Serves her right. Just shows you've got to be very careful when reading adverts. There's a lot of malicious people out there trying to take advantage of normal, honest folk.

~~Nik00117~~ · 02-25-2007, 03:00 AM

PWNed, I've pwned scammers in the past.

Guy tried to scam me in the UK, told him to fix it or i'll call the cops. Called the cops it was his former girlfeidsn house, who was pissed off at him and told the cops where he lived.

Last I heard he was heading to jail.

**Joefireline** · 02-25-2007, 05:47 AM

Haha! OWNED! IDIOT!

I love it when the fraudsters get what they asked for..

**TheAtheist** · 02-25-2007, 06:08 AM

What annoyed me about that case was it was never proven that the scammer had/had not written, that you would receive the photo. If they had written that you were bidding for the photo then that woman had nothing to answer. The prosecutors may not have liked it, but theres nothing wrong with that. That judge is a seriously bad judge, needs to be more impartial, not take sides like she did. She saw one peice of evidence and based her judgement on that.

JohnthePilot · 02-25-2007, 06:18 AM

You're dead right. I thought the same thing. I'd hate to be in front of a judge like that. I don't like to see fraudsters and con men getting away with it but at the same time we have to remember the old saying "caveat emptor" -"buyer beware". If she genuinely did say it was only the photo for sale it's the buyer's responsibility. It's still a pretty mean trick.

**Joefireline** · 02-25-2007, 06:20 AM

Considering the item discription stated it was quite heavy, when it wasn't, it proves it is fake. End of.

**TheAtheist** · 02-25-2007, 06:30 AM

no, that described the item, BUT if she said somewhere else you were bidding on the photo not the camera then thats just oversight on the apart of the buyer, and if she cant accept her mistake then tough. That doesnt make the other woman a conwoman. In this case i would have to side with the defendant, unless they could prove that the auction didnt say that the bidder was bidding on a photo not the item.

**Joefireline** · 02-25-2007, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thetechmaster

no, that described the item, BUT if she said somewhere else you were bidding on the photo not the camera then thats just oversight on the apart of the buyer, and if she cant accept her mistake then tough. That doesnt make the other woman a conwoman. In this case i would have to side with the defendant, unless they could prove that the auction didnt say that the bidder was bidding on a photo not the item.

Camera? Phone.

If the description is saying two different things, then there is something wrong...

I actully think it says you are bidding on what you can see in the photo, and that being the photo.

Then she also said the the buyer was a fruad.

And another thing she was sueing, was how the seller was sending nasty messages.

**8210GUY** · 02-25-2007, 08:45 AM

TBH she is as guilty as sin, it would certainly help to be able to see the physical ad, but there was no doubt she was exploiting peoples naivety, and the fact there are several other investigations going against them proves there must be something dodgy, and P'ing the judge off wont do you any favours anyway.
But then thats court TV for you, if you were truly innocent why not go to a normal court ?

And it can't be denied the defamatory statements she made so she is definitely guilty of that even if wordplay in the other part of the case was enough to be technically legal in the purest form of the law, so she was quite correctly found guilty, although the basis of been found guilty may be technically flawed, but guilty she is without doubt.

mimo2005 · 02-25-2007, 08:56 AM

can the verdict be similar for this seller ?

The box is empty. This auction does not include the actual game system or any games.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...7095%26fvi%3D1

**Joefireline** · 02-25-2007, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mimo2005

can the verdict be similar for this seller ?

The box is empty. This auction does not include the actual game system or any games.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...7095%26fvi%3D1

Well, that one was EXTREMELY clear, and no thing about specification or weight.

The buyer for that was a complete idiot! How the heck did he not realise it was just the box and reciept??

**TheAtheist** · 02-25-2007, 09:24 AM

That buyer was a complete idiot. That one wasnt meant to be a con, it blatantly states just a display piece.

**8210GUY** · 02-25-2007, 09:26 AM

Agreed, there are no grey areas or misleading facts, it clearly states in the title and description what you were getting, the buyer was a greedy idiot who thought he was getting a great deal screwing the buyer, but his greed resulted in him either not reading, or being to stupid to understand the statement

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Nintendo Wii console wii sports BOX & receipt ONLY!!!

Quote:

This auction is for a Nintendo Wii console sports box and the origional receipt. The box is empty. This auction does not include the actual game system or any games. This box is ideal for display purposes. GOOD LUCK!

~~Nik00117~~ · 02-25-2007, 09:28 AM

The scammer thought she was pulling a fast one. I've seen it done before, you make advert really big lots of words etc, an then you add a tiny little setence in it which changes the entire value, then hope the consumer doesn't catch on. Your not lieing, however your hiding the truth.

Saying

"Your bidding on the picture"

could mean several things

1. Your actually bidding on the picture
2. Your bidding on whats the picture is off (in this case the cell phone)

It was ticky wording, quite frankly she is a scammer and deverses what came to her. That Wii auction is different, it was plain, and simple your bidding on the box and recipit. Guy was dumb enough to bid that much.

**carsey** · 02-25-2007, 06:12 PM

Man, That seller on Ebay got absolutely PWND.

I love watching Judge Judy, she's hilarious and doesnt take <TWIBAT> for an answer.

02-24-2007, 07:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
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JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,928 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	You're dead right. I thought the same thing. I'd hate to be in front of a judge like that. I don't like to see fraudsters and con men getting away with it but at the same time we have to remember the old saying "caveat emptor" -"buyer beware". If she genuinely did say it was only the photo for sale it's the buyer's responsibility. It's still a pretty mean trick. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

02-25-2007, 08:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	can the verdict be similar for this seller ? The box is empty. This auction does not include the actual game system or any games. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...7095%26fvi%3D1 __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

02-25-2007, 06:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
carsey Moderator, TSF Articles Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hunwick, Co. Durham England Posts: 10,678 OS: XP Pro SP3 My System	Man, That seller on Ebay got absolutely PWND. I love watching Judge Judy, she's hilarious and doesnt take <TWIBAT> for an answer. __________________ Submit New Articles Here

02-25-2007, 03:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	PWNed, I've pwned scammers in the past. Guy tried to scam me in the UK, told him to fix it or i'll call the cops. Called the cops it was his former girlfeidsn house, who was pissed off at him and told the cops where he lived. Last I heard he was heading to jail.

02-25-2007, 05:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
Joefireline Enthusiastic TSFer~Joseph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portishead (Bristol) England Posts: 5,319 OS: Windows 7 64bit(Desktop) / XP Home SP2(laptop) My System	Haha! OWNED! IDIOT! I love it when the fraudsters get what they asked for..

02-25-2007, 06:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	What annoyed me about that case was it was never proven that the scammer had/had not written, that you would receive the photo. If they had written that you were bidding for the photo then that woman had nothing to answer. The prosecutors may not have liked it, but theres nothing wrong with that. That judge is a seriously bad judge, needs to be more impartial, not take sides like she did. She saw one peice of evidence and based her judgement on that.

02-25-2007, 06:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
Joefireline Enthusiastic TSFer~Joseph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portishead (Bristol) England Posts: 5,319 OS: Windows 7 64bit(Desktop) / XP Home SP2(laptop) My System	Considering the item discription stated it was quite heavy, when it wasn't, it proves it is fake. End of.

02-25-2007, 06:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	no, that described the item, BUT if she said somewhere else you were bidding on the photo not the camera then thats just oversight on the apart of the buyer, and if she cant accept her mistake then tough. That doesnt make the other woman a conwoman. In this case i would have to side with the defendant, unless they could prove that the auction didnt say that the bidder was bidding on a photo not the item.

02-25-2007, 08:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
8210GUY TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,558 OS: xp Pro	TBH she is as guilty as sin, it would certainly help to be able to see the physical ad, but there was no doubt she was exploiting peoples naivety, and the fact there are several other investigations going against them proves there must be something dodgy, and P'ing the judge off wont do you any favours anyway. But then thats court TV for you, if you were truly innocent why not go to a normal court ? And it can't be denied the defamatory statements she made so she is definitely guilty of that even if wordplay in the other part of the case was enough to be technically legal in the purest form of the law, so she was quite correctly found guilty, although the basis of been found guilty may be technically flawed, but guilty she is without doubt.

02-25-2007, 09:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	That buyer was a complete idiot. That one wasnt meant to be a con, it blatantly states just a display piece.

02-25-2007, 09:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	The scammer thought she was pulling a fast one. I've seen it done before, you make advert really big lots of words etc, an then you add a tiny little setence in it which changes the entire value, then hope the consumer doesn't catch on. Your not lieing, however your hiding the truth. Saying "Your bidding on the picture" could mean several things 1. Your actually bidding on the picture 2. Your bidding on whats the picture is off (in this case the cell phone) It was ticky wording, quite frankly she is a scammer and deverses what came to her. That Wii auction is different, it was plain, and simple your bidding on the box and recipit. Guy was dumb enough to bid that much.