Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate

mimo2005 · 02-13-2007, 10:21 PM

Teacher faces 40 years in prison for never having heard of Adaware SE and Spybot S&D

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/02/13/te....ap/index.html

~~Nik00117~~ · 02-13-2007, 10:56 PM

Maybe the other teacher viewed porn... Quite frankly I highly doubt she sat down in class and started surfing for porn...

I bet its what they said it was, feel sorry for the poor lady.

I've had porn pop up on a school PC before and I got in trouble for it I was steaming pissed, tried to explain I would never do somthing like that with a school PC.

I bet it was an accident. So what some kids some pornographic imagnes, 90% likekly it was a accident, and its not like one day they'll go home with a friend and look for the stuff anyways.

**devil lady** · 02-13-2007, 10:59 PM

You would have to ask what sort of IT control was being run at that school? Why didn't she just turn the monitor off and report it?

**Kalim** · 02-14-2007, 06:15 AM

Thats ridiculous. Its happened to me many times inadvertently, when I've started the net and left my Ad-blockers off, and one after another 100 or so pop ups of porno nature keep reappearing. For someone who isn't well versed with computer technology, thats the sick side of it and they wouldn't have a clue how to deal with it. NO WAY 40 years, and other crimes way sicker get let off free. Why not prosecute the mags and papers that kids can see dropped here and there with porn freely available for them? No obviously, thats too difficult a task with wealthy corporations and this is an easy catch, simply.
Anyone using a computer, and especially teaching another SHOULD at least learn and know the basics of whats on it though and how to tackle it. There is no way any teacher will out porn in class for students, even though they be inverted pedophiles. That would clearly suggest she didn't do it on purpose and there's nothing of a crime that took place. Injustice.

crazijoe · 02-14-2007, 06:29 AM

I am actually kinda suprised that the school did not have any type of content filtering appliance or software on their network.
It would seem to me that the school district is in neglect.
A majority of businesses have web content filtering just because of this. To avoid a lawsuit.

**Fr4665** · 02-14-2007, 08:54 AM

i read somewhere that this was a windows 98SE machine ... no wonder this happend. i think its ridiculous ok so the kids saw one or 2 picture dont they see much more on TV ? i call bogus

**Joefireline** · 02-14-2007, 10:35 AM

Com'on, you can't get done for not knowing something like this, surely?

**TheMatt** · 02-14-2007, 05:38 PM

Definitely. I'm surprised that the school didn't have anti-malware.

ebackhus · 02-14-2007, 05:46 PM

To me there are two problems.

The first is that the teacher REALLY needs to be brought up to speed on modern computing and system security. The second is that the school ought to have systems in place to prevent data like that from making it in. I've been around the 'Net enough to know that porn popups don't come from www.pbs.org.

yustr · 02-14-2007, 06:53 PM

The teacher aught to turn it around and sue the school because their lack of content filtering exposed her to those awful images and emotional distress...

And I agree with EB - hair dressing sites - I'm sure.

crazijoe · 05-17-2007, 05:16 AM

Came across this article related to this thread.

http://www.networkworld.com/columnis...7backspin.html

I'm sorry to say but if this teacher is an employee of the school district, then they are as much as fault as the teacher is since the school district is responsible for her actions.

I love this quote.

Quote:

Perhaps this is related to Arthur C. Clarke's third law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

As anything to do with computers looks like magic to the average judge and jury, and every wily prosecutor knows that this can be capitalized on, voila! The accused must be guilty because they were touching the magic at the time the bad ju-ju was invoked, and thus they need to be punished. We can't have witches running around willy-nilly!

I know from first hand experience of how true this is. It is already a known just based on the fact that the prosecutioners budget is based on how many cases he wins whether or not that person is guilty of a crime. You would be suprised at how many innocent people are behind bars. Newer technology (like DNA tests) already has proven that. Instead of persicuting the guilty party the prosecuter would rather go after the easiest target just because it is another notch in his book.
I'm sorry I ranted on over this but the US judicial system really needs a major overhaul. I could get even deeper into the law enforcement side but that would be a different subject.

**Go The Power** · 05-17-2007, 07:33 AM

A school should have all the proper content filters enabled and installed

~~Nik00117~~ · 05-17-2007, 07:50 AM

I've had a porno ad pop up on my PC at a school I was at. Quite frankly I didn't know what to do, tell a teacher, exit out of it and pretend it never happened or walk away.

I figured if I tell a teacher they might think i'm looking at porn on a school PC.
Exit out and pretend that it never happened and the admins might see the log and come after me.
Walk away, well the computer was assigned to me what am I supposed to do they'll track it back to me.

This lady should get no more then a slap on the wrist for her crime. From all the information gathering i've done on this case, to me its more the schools fault then anyone elses fault. I mean they didn't have their updated software to block exactly this kind of activity.

I gotta tell you if my school didn't mointor their PCs, and keep their software up to date we kids would have a hay day.

But in my school the IT admin told me they tend not to chase after poeple who get around their filters, blockers, etc they look at the logs study how they did it and then fix it. Then the kids come up with a new way to do it. Then they find a new way to stop it.

~~cristianotgv~~ · 11-19-2008, 01:23 AM

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~~cristianotgv~~ · 11-19-2008, 01:25 AM

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**Cathy95820** · 11-19-2008, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cristianotgv

if you wanna see a beautiful teachers and hi's student..

Judging from the original date this article was discussed and by the verbage of the link you are suggesting I am guessing that the material therein contained is questionable.

**WereBo** · 11-19-2008, 06:31 AM

Yep, it's a porn site

**l_b_rex** · 11-19-2008, 08:05 AM

I wish the article was still there but no matter what it was I don't feel anyone should go to prison inless they are storing illegal content on the hard drive. Was this a kid porn or adult porn site? If adult, suck it up. Things like this happen and no one is hurt..

DonaldG · 11-19-2008, 11:05 AM

This is a very old thread resurrected to plant a very inappropriate link.

Thread closed to let it die....

If any other Moderator or Manager wants to delete the thread, So be it.

mimo2005 · 11-19-2008, 11:58 AM

Good job Donald. Keep it up.

Thank you.

02-13-2007, 10:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
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02-13-2007, 10:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Maybe the other teacher viewed porn... Quite frankly I highly doubt she sat down in class and started surfing for porn... I bet its what they said it was, feel sorry for the poor lady. I've had porn pop up on a school PC before and I got in trouble for it I was steaming pissed, tried to explain I would never do somthing like that with a school PC. I bet it was an accident. So what some kids some pornographic imagnes, 90% likekly it was a accident, and its not like one day they'll go home with a friend and look for the stuff anyways.

02-14-2007, 06:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,641 OS: Many	Thats ridiculous. Its happened to me many times inadvertently, when I've started the net and left my Ad-blockers off, and one after another 100 or so pop ups of porno nature keep reappearing. For someone who isn't well versed with computer technology, thats the sick side of it and they wouldn't have a clue how to deal with it. NO WAY 40 years, and other crimes way sicker get let off free. Why not prosecute the mags and papers that kids can see dropped here and there with porn freely available for them? No obviously, thats too difficult a task with wealthy corporations and this is an easy catch, simply. Anyone using a computer, and especially teaching another SHOULD at least learn and know the basics of whats on it though and how to tackle it. There is no way any teacher will out porn in class for students, even though they be inverted pedophiles. That would clearly suggest she didn't do it on purpose and there's nothing of a crime that took place. Injustice.

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Joefireline Enthusiastic TSFer~Joseph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portishead (Bristol) England Posts: 5,319 OS: Windows 7 64bit(Desktop) / XP Home SP2(laptop) My System	Com'on, you can't get done for not knowing something like this, surely?

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ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,810 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System	To me there are two problems. The first is that the teacher REALLY needs to be brought up to speed on modern computing and system security. The second is that the school ought to have systems in place to prevent data like that from making it in. I've been around the 'Net enough to know that porn popups don't come from www.pbs.org. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

02-14-2007, 06:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 6,249 OS: XP Pro My System	The teacher aught to turn it around and sue the school because their lack of content filtering exposed her to those awful images and emotional distress... And I agree with EB - hair dressing sites - I'm sure. __________________ Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. A.C. Clark Don't believe everything you think.

05-17-2007, 07:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Go The Power Moderator, Microsoft Support Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 11,077 OS: Windows Vista Home Permium SP1, PCLinuxOS	Re: Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate A school should have all the proper content filters enabled and installed __________________

05-17-2007, 07:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate I've had a porno ad pop up on my PC at a school I was at. Quite frankly I didn't know what to do, tell a teacher, exit out of it and pretend it never happened or walk away. I figured if I tell a teacher they might think i'm looking at porn on a school PC. Exit out and pretend that it never happened and the admins might see the log and come after me. Walk away, well the computer was assigned to me what am I supposed to do they'll track it back to me. This lady should get no more then a slap on the wrist for her crime. From all the information gathering i've done on this case, to me its more the schools fault then anyone elses fault. I mean they didn't have their updated software to block exactly this kind of activity. I gotta tell you if my school didn't mointor their PCs, and keep their software up to date we kids would have a hay day. But in my school the IT admin told me they tend not to chase after poeple who get around their filters, blockers, etc they look at the logs study how they did it and then fix it. Then the kids come up with a new way to do it. Then they find a new way to stop it.

11-19-2008, 01:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
~~cristianotgv~~ Troubled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2 OS: vista ultimate	Re: Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate go to this link it's very interesting i hope that you like it

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~~cristianotgv~~ Troubled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2 OS: vista ultimate	Re: Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate dude who know how can i make daemon tools working on vista ultimate?

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WereBo Resident Village Idiot Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SE London, UK Posts: 15,900 OS: Win-7 (64bit), XP-Pro SP3 My System	Re: Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate Yep, it's a porn site __________________ Some days, it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints F@H Stats

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l_b_rex Awesom-O 4000 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,217 OS: Vista Home Premium 32 bit	Re: Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate I wish the article was still there but no matter what it was I don't feel anyone should go to prison inless they are storing illegal content on the hard drive. Was this a kid porn or adult porn site? If adult, suck it up. Things like this happen and no one is hurt..

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DonaldG Manager Home Support, Assistant Manager Articles Team Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 10,468 OS: XPsp2 Laptop & Vista Ultimate Desktop My System	Re: Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate This is a very old thread resurrected to plant a very inappropriate link. Thread closed to let it die.... If any other Moderator or Manager wants to delete the thread, So be it. __________________ . Lest we forget... "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." Submit New Articles Here TSF's Photographer's Corner . Last edited by DonaldG; 11-19-2008 at 11:07 AM.

11-19-2008, 11:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	Re: Teacher's porn conviction sparks tech debate Good job Donald. Keep it up. Thank you. __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"