Presa Canarios

mimo2005 · 08-22-2006, 09:39 AM

Attraction to exotic dogs was fatal
Shawna Willey's expensive but beloved Presa Canarios grew big and dangerous.

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/08/22/Pa..._exotic_.shtml

PS : are these dogs or some kind of "Terminators" ?

**Joefireline** · 08-22-2006, 09:59 AM

Get those dogs under control!
This is quite bad though...
Dogs should be trained fully, and well. Anyone who doesn't train their dogs properly, are stupid, and selfish.

I don't like those sort of dogs, I perfer just the friendly, playfull, but not too playfull, and non-barking ones...

gamerman0203 · 08-22-2006, 10:11 AM

ya know. Dogs can be trained until "Kingdom come", but they are still animals. I love dogs! I grew up with a Doberman Pinscher for 14 years and that was the lovely-est, nicest, most beautiful, family oriented dog that I have ever come in contact with to date, but there was a time when she was out in the yard (we lived in the country. nearest neighbor was on the other side of a hay field) with us and she took off after a guy riding his bike on the road and knocked him off of it. He didn't persue any legal action luckily, but in 14 years, that was the only time she dis-obeyed a command. She was trained to be a family dog, but protect when commanded or necessary so something still triggered in her head that day. She was still an animal after all. (dang I miss that dog. I loved her to death! makes me wanna cry just thinking about her. She died when I was 17 and I still think about her)

bry623 · 08-22-2006, 10:25 AM

I hate to say this, but it almost serves her right.

**TheAtheist** · 08-22-2006, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joefireline

non-barking ones...

I hate to inform you. Those sort of dogs will never exist. Its called nature. Dogs, like everyone before me has said, are animals and have natural instincts.

My view is obviuosly predjudced seeing as i have a dog but i still feel strongly about this issue.

**Joefireline** · 08-22-2006, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetechmaster

I hate to inform you. Those sort of dogs will never exist. Its called nature. Dogs, like everyone before me has said, are animals and have natural instincts.

My view is obviuosly predjudced seeing as i have a dog but i still feel strongly about this issue.

Ha! Wrong. Well, in the way, for them not to meanly bark. On south road, just a road away from us, there is 2 amazingly well trained dogs. They are never agressive, and never bark meanly, the make a soft sort of light bark, occasionally. Can't really discribe it, but I wouldn't really call it a bark. But anyway, they are lovely dogs, and very friendly. This is what I mean by non barking.

**TheAtheist** · 08-22-2006, 10:59 AM

what breed of dog are they?

mimo2005 · 08-22-2006, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetechmaster

what breed of dog are they?

Like the title says : Presa Canarios
They are from an island near spain and morocco , that island is called : canarios islands

mimo2005 · 08-22-2006, 11:26 AM

i forgot to add the links :

http://www.presa-canario-canary-dogs...nformation.htm

http://www.dogocanarioclub.org/article1.htm

ebackhus · 08-22-2006, 11:30 AM

Some dogs have their vocal cords cut to keep them from barking. What you describe, Joe, sounds like that.

**Joefireline** · 08-22-2006, 11:38 AM

No, I don't think so, they are just generally calm and sweet.

ebackhus · 08-22-2006, 11:55 AM

That's also a good possibility.

When I was a child I had a chow chow who was probably the most obedient and well behaved dog EVAR. He followed any command, never barked, knew how to fight with me, and everything else that makes a great dog great.

It hurt so much when my mom had the animal control people eventually take him from me.

**Joefireline** · 08-22-2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebackhus

That's also a good possibility.

When I was a child I had a chow chow who was probably the most obedient and well behaved dog EVAR. He followed any command, never barked, knew how to fight with me, and everything else that makes a great dog great.

It hurt so much when my mom had the animal control people eventually take him from me.

Sounds like a great dog, why did they take him away?

yustr · 08-22-2006, 01:14 PM

Child: "Mister. Does your dog bite?"

Responsible dog owner: "Not yet"

As has been said here, people forget that dogs are animals. And they're pack animals at that. If you think about them that way their behavior becomes less random. The family becomes the pack. They'll play. They'll wrestle. They'll try to win dominance. But will generally not harm another member of their pack. Unless, that member tries to take over the position in the pack that they feel they've earned. That is probably what happened here.

Now enter an outsider. Gammer's bike rider was not a member of the pack so he's invading the pack's established territory and must be driven away.

BTW: I love dogs. I hate these type stories because they don't need to happen. There are plenty of nice gentle 30 lb dogs just waiting to be adopted. There's no reason - except ego - that that woman needed 2 x 120 lb dogs.

bry623 · 08-22-2006, 01:19 PM

When they say that their dogs do not bite, they usualy do.

**Joefireline** · 08-22-2006, 01:24 PM

I love dogs, though I would never have one. Simply because they take too much time and effort to look after. They are not one of me, so it doesn't matter...

Did anyone hear about this:
A king, or Prince, can't remember which, had a dog that he loved, and trusted all time, and took everywhere, but one day, he couldn't find the dog, and he had to go somewhere. When he got back, the dog had blood all over it, and the owner came to think that the dog had killed his son, being so mad, he killed the dog, then, he found his son, still alive, and the dog had infact saved his son from a wolf. He never smiled again, because he was just so sad about what he did.

08-22-2006, 09:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, The Relaxation Room/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,137 OS: xp	Presa Canarios Attraction to exotic dogs was fatal Shawna Willey's expensive but beloved Presa Canarios grew big and dangerous. http://www.sptimes.com/2006/08/22/Pa..._exotic_.shtml PS : are these dogs or some kind of "Terminators" ? __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo" Last edited by mimo2005 : 08-22-2006 at 09:41 AM.

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Joefireline Enthusiastic TSFer~Joseph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portishead (Bristol) England Posts: 5,314 OS: XP Pro SP2(Desktop) / XP Home SP2(laptop) My System	Get those dogs under control! This is quite bad though... Dogs should be trained fully, and well. Anyone who doesn't train their dogs properly, are stupid, and selfish. I don't like those sort of dogs, I perfer just the friendly, playfull, but not too playfull, and non-barking ones... __________________ - Joseph LAPTOP: Acer Aspire 5512WMLi (Specification) OPTIMIZE XP BEFORE POSTING HJT LOG - POST HJT LOG >>HERE<< If TSF has helped you, please help TSF: Please DONATE

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gamerman0203 Games Team Asst. Manager Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,145 OS: XP MCE, Ubuntu Gutsy My System	ya know. Dogs can be trained until "Kingdom come", but they are still animals. I love dogs! I grew up with a Doberman Pinscher for 14 years and that was the lovely-est, nicest, most beautiful, family oriented dog that I have ever come in contact with to date, but there was a time when she was out in the yard (we lived in the country. nearest neighbor was on the other side of a hay field) with us and she took off after a guy riding his bike on the road and knocked him off of it. He didn't persue any legal action luckily, but in 14 years, that was the only time she dis-obeyed a command. She was trained to be a family dog, but protect when commanded or necessary so something still triggered in her head that day. She was still an animal after all. (dang I miss that dog. I loved her to death! makes me wanna cry just thinking about her. She died when I was 17 and I still think about her) __________________ Follow These Steps First! CPU-Z \| SensorView \| WinXP Clean Boot \| Latest DirectX \| ATI Catalyst \| Nvidia ForceWare Posting System Specifications

08-22-2006, 10:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,621 OS: winxp pro sp2	I hate to say this, but it almost serves her right. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -Ronald Reagan

08-22-2006, 11:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, The Relaxation Room/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,137 OS: xp	i forgot to add the links : http://www.presa-canario-canary-dogs...nformation.htm http://www.dogocanarioclub.org/article1.htm __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

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TheAtheist TSF Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,221 OS: xp sp3 My System	what breed of dog are they?

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ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 12,767 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 25	Some dogs have their vocal cords cut to keep them from barking. What you describe, Joe, sounds like that. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

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Joefireline Enthusiastic TSFer~Joseph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portishead (Bristol) England Posts: 5,314 OS: XP Pro SP2(Desktop) / XP Home SP2(laptop) My System	No, I don't think so, they are just generally calm and sweet. __________________ - Joseph LAPTOP: Acer Aspire 5512WMLi (Specification) OPTIMIZE XP BEFORE POSTING HJT LOG - POST HJT LOG >>HERE<< If TSF has helped you, please help TSF: Please DONATE

08-22-2006, 11:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 12,767 OS: WinXP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 25	That's also a good possibility. When I was a child I had a chow chow who was probably the most obedient and well behaved dog EVAR. He followed any command, never barked, knew how to fight with me, and everything else that makes a great dog great. It hurt so much when my mom had the animal control people eventually take him from me. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

08-22-2006, 01:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 5,007 OS: XP Pro My System	Child: "Mister. Does your dog bite?" Responsible dog owner: "Not yet" As has been said here, people forget that dogs are animals. And they're pack animals at that. If you think about them that way their behavior becomes less random. The family becomes the pack. They'll play. They'll wrestle. They'll try to win dominance. But will generally not harm another member of their pack. Unless, that member tries to take over the position in the pack that they feel they've earned. That is probably what happened here. Now enter an outsider. Gammer's bike rider was not a member of the pack so he's invading the pack's established territory and must be driven away. BTW: I love dogs. I hate these type stories because they don't need to happen. There are plenty of nice gentle 30 lb dogs just waiting to be adopted. There's no reason - except ego - that that woman needed 2 x 120 lb dogs. __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas

08-22-2006, 01:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,621 OS: winxp pro sp2	When they say that their dogs do not bite, they usualy do. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -Ronald Reagan

08-22-2006, 01:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
Joefireline Enthusiastic TSFer~Joseph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portishead (Bristol) England Posts: 5,314 OS: XP Pro SP2(Desktop) / XP Home SP2(laptop) My System	I love dogs, though I would never have one. Simply because they take too much time and effort to look after. They are not one of me, so it doesn't matter... Did anyone hear about this: A king, or Prince, can't remember which, had a dog that he loved, and trusted all time, and took everywhere, but one day, he couldn't find the dog, and he had to go somewhere. When he got back, the dog had blood all over it, and the owner came to think that the dog had killed his son, being so mad, he killed the dog, then, he found his son, still alive, and the dog had infact saved his son from a wolf. He never smiled again, because he was just so sad about what he did. __________________ - Joseph LAPTOP: Acer Aspire 5512WMLi (Specification) OPTIMIZE XP BEFORE POSTING HJT LOG - POST HJT LOG >>HERE<< If TSF has helped you, please help TSF: Please DONATE

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