India : Coke and Pepsi

mimo2005 · 08-05-2006, 06:00 AM

INDIA’S highest court yesterday demanded that Coca-Cola should reveal its secret formula for the first time in 120 years.
The Supreme Court ordered the US soft drinks maker, along with its rival PepsiCo, to supply details of the chemical composition and ingredients of their products after a study released this week claimed that they contained unacceptable levels of insecticides.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...299363,00.html

**Joefireline** · 08-05-2006, 06:06 AM

Ok, that is stupid, because other companys will just copy it, and Coca cola will be left with nothing...
There is nothing lik€e a good can of coca cola!

The thing about it containing "unacceptable levels of insecticides" is stupid. People have been drinking it for 120 years, and all is cool!

**TheAtheist** · 08-05-2006, 09:00 AM

the thing is though, that other companies have made spin off of coca cola and to be honest i cant tell the difference easily. So it cant be that hard to make. I think they should be made to release the recipe.

**DumberDrummer** · 08-05-2006, 09:16 AM

There are subtle differences, do a taste test. Some can't stand anything else but one or the other after 20 years of drinking it.

In any case, incesticides? I've been drinking soda since I got into high school, for 4 years, and even if there were any in it, they couldn't have been harmful.

**TheAtheist** · 08-05-2006, 09:26 AM

It just seems a bit ott to be that protective of your brand. Coca cola are protected anyway because i bet they have copyrighted the recipe which means no company can use it anyhow.

**DumberDrummer** · 08-05-2006, 09:28 AM

how would you enforce that?

**TheAtheist** · 08-05-2006, 09:38 AM

copyright laws maybe? obviosuly, not for profit use on a small scale wouldnt matter but it would stop companies taking coca colas market share.

**Joefireline** · 08-05-2006, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetechmaster

the thing is though, that other companies have made spin off of coca cola and to be honest i cant tell the difference easily. So it cant be that hard to make. I think they should be made to release the recipe.

Trust me, there is a BIG difference between Coca cola and other copies. Some people can't tell the difference, but I can. I like quality... I only get this with Coca cola...

**TheAtheist** · 08-05-2006, 09:41 AM

i'm confindent the recipe isnt far different.

**Joefireline** · 08-05-2006, 09:45 AM

There is actully quite a difference.
It certainly tastes a LOT different. As I said, I only accept quality when it comes to Coke.

Zazula · 08-05-2006, 09:56 AM

No guys, not again... So far we had we had PC vs Apple, Intel vs AMD, nVidia vs ATI, Republicans vs Democrats, Acer vs Dell, European sports cars vs American muscle cars [... can't recite all of them - they're countless ...]; endless debates - please DON'T get now in the Coke vs Pepsi thing, I'm seriously gonna kill myself... (by drinking too many Coke, perhaps?)

**Joefireline** · 08-05-2006, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zazula

No guys, not again... So far we had we had PC vs Apple, Intel vs AMD, nVidia vs ATI, Republicans vs Democrats, Acer vs Dell, European sports cars vs American muscle cars [... can't recite all of them - they're countless ...]; endless debates - please DON'T get now in the Coke vs Pepsi thing, I'm seriously gonna kill myself... (by drinking too many Coke, perhaps?)

Lol.
Well, at least I havn't been in the Intel vs AMD, nVidia vs ATI or PC vs Apple, though have been in the Windows vs Linux one... Lol.

**Spatcher** · 08-05-2006, 12:01 PM

Ok what in the &^@#*&% *^!@%&

I have been drinking Coke and soda since I was like 4 or 5. That is a decade plus one or two; if there was high levels of insecticides I'd be dead by now.

If there really is insecticides in it....... I think I will never drink another soda again

and oh how I will miss them.........

**TheAtheist** · 08-05-2006, 12:15 PM

i agree spatcher. If there were high levels of whatever in it surely someone who has drunk it would have died surely. so it cant be that bad. Its also bad publicity for the company if they dont release the recipe

**Joefireline** · 08-05-2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetechmaster

i agree spatcher. If there were high levels of whatever in it surely someone who has drunk it would have died surely. so it cant be that bad. Its also bad publicity for the company if they dont release the recipe

I made that point earlier...
I wouldn't say it is bad publicity, I would perfer it if they didn't release it!

Zazula · 08-05-2006, 01:07 PM

A quick test for all of you who've been drinking the beverage in question for years:

Have you ever had insects in your digestive system?

No? Do you see now how effective these added insecticides have been to protect you?

**DumberDrummer** · 08-05-2006, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetechmaster

copyright laws maybe? obviosuly, not for profit use on a small scale wouldnt matter but it would stop companies taking coca colas market share.

Copyright laws? How would coke be able to tell if other people were using their recipe? I mean, if it was as simple as some sort of test, then coke's recipe would have come out long ago.... I suppose, you could do an investigation, but that's not nearly as cut and dried as "There is coke in this bottle labeled ________ cola"

I'm a pepsi man, myself, but I don't really give a whit which one you drink... I can drink coke if I want to, its not like I have some strange aversion to it.

**hempknight** · 08-05-2006, 08:35 PM

it could be that the insecticide thing is limited to india only?? becuase my grandad is like 75+ and he was the first person i heard this off..back whe ni was 7...thats why i'm replying here..but..yeah i reckon if an old dude like that knows about it..then there must be some truth..and about ppl dying or it being reported..well we have the 2nd biggest population after china..so such things can easily get lost among the poor or between corrupt politicians..

**Spatcher** · 08-06-2006, 06:41 AM

They all use different recipes because Coke tastes MUCH better than Pepsi.

I sure as heck hope they show the recipe, I'm getting kinda nervous here.

**hempknight** · 08-07-2006, 03:43 AM

...yeah think of all the intestinal bacteria, dustmites,weevil eggs,skin flakes and other general crap all that pesticide might have killed!!! @_@

08-05-2006, 06:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	India : Coke and Pepsi INDIA’S highest court yesterday demanded that Coca-Cola should reveal its secret formula for the first time in 120 years. The Supreme Court ordered the US soft drinks maker, along with its rival PepsiCo, to supply details of the chemical composition and ingredients of their products after a study released this week claimed that they contained unacceptable levels of insecticides. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...299363,00.html __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo" Last edited by mimo2005; 08-05-2006 at 06:01 AM.

08-05-2006, 09:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
DumberDrummer Cymru am byth Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,385 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	There are subtle differences, do a taste test. Some can't stand anything else but one or the other after 20 years of drinking it. In any case, incesticides? I've been drinking soda since I got into high school, for 4 years, and even if there were any in it, they couldn't have been harmful. __________________ Living with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane _____________________________________________ ... and with those words so begins my lifetime of longing for the devil's warm embrace

08-05-2006, 09:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
DumberDrummer Cymru am byth Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,385 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	how would you enforce that? __________________ Living with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane _____________________________________________ ... and with those words so begins my lifetime of longing for the devil's warm embrace

08-05-2006, 09:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
Zazula Manager Emeritus, I'm blond, James Blond Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 7,667 OS: Win XP Pro SP2	No guys, not again... So far we had we had PC vs Apple, Intel vs AMD, nVidia vs ATI, Republicans vs Democrats, Acer vs Dell, European sports cars vs American muscle cars [... can't recite all of them - they're countless ...]; endless debates - please DON'T get now in the Coke vs Pepsi thing, I'm seriously gonna kill myself... (by drinking too many Coke, perhaps?) __________________ "Time is the wisest because it discovers everything" Thales of Miletus (ca.624BC-ca.546BC) "Everything flows, nothing stands still." Heraclitus of Ephesus (ca.535BC-475BC) "One thing I know, that I know nothing" Socrates of Athens (ca.470BC–399BC)

08-05-2006, 12:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,484 OS: Mac OSX	Ok what in the &^@#&% ^!@%& I have been drinking Coke and soda since I was like 4 or 5. That is a decade plus one or two; if there was high levels of insecticides I'd be dead by now. If there really is insecticides in it....... I think I will never drink another soda again and oh how I will miss them......... __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy

08-05-2006, 06:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Joefireline Enthusiastic TSFer~Joseph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portishead (Bristol) England Posts: 5,319 OS: Windows 7 64bit(Desktop) / XP Home SP2(laptop) My System	Ok, that is stupid, because other companys will just copy it, and Coca cola will be left with nothing... There is nothing lik€e a good can of coca cola! The thing about it containing "unacceptable levels of insecticides" is stupid. People have been drinking it for 120 years, and all is cool!

08-05-2006, 09:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	the thing is though, that other companies have made spin off of coca cola and to be honest i cant tell the difference easily. So it cant be that hard to make. I think they should be made to release the recipe.

08-05-2006, 09:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	It just seems a bit ott to be that protective of your brand. Coca cola are protected anyway because i bet they have copyrighted the recipe which means no company can use it anyhow.

08-05-2006, 09:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	copyright laws maybe? obviosuly, not for profit use on a small scale wouldnt matter but it would stop companies taking coca colas market share.

08-05-2006, 09:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	i'm confindent the recipe isnt far different.

08-05-2006, 09:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
Joefireline Enthusiastic TSFer~Joseph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portishead (Bristol) England Posts: 5,319 OS: Windows 7 64bit(Desktop) / XP Home SP2(laptop) My System	There is actully quite a difference. It certainly tastes a LOT different. As I said, I only accept quality when it comes to Coke.

08-05-2006, 12:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
TheAtheist Mentor, Articles Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portishead, Bristol Posts: 1,317 OS: xp sp3 My System	i agree spatcher. If there were high levels of whatever in it surely someone who has drunk it would have died surely. so it cant be that bad. Its also bad publicity for the company if they dont release the recipe

08-05-2006, 01:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
Zazula Manager Emeritus, I'm blond, James Blond Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 7,667 OS: Win XP Pro SP2	A quick test for all of you who've been drinking the beverage in question for years: Have you ever had insects in your digestive system? No? Do you see now how effective these added insecticides have been to protect you? __________________ "Time is the wisest because it discovers everything" Thales of Miletus (ca.624BC-ca.546BC) "Everything flows, nothing stands still." Heraclitus of Ephesus (ca.535BC-475BC) "One thing I know, that I know nothing" Socrates of Athens (ca.470BC–399BC)

08-05-2006, 08:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
hempknight TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 644 OS: XP Pro	it could be that the insecticide thing is limited to india only?? becuase my grandad is like 75+ and he was the first person i heard this off..back whe ni was 7...thats why i'm replying here..but..yeah i reckon if an old dude like that knows about it..then there must be some truth..and about ppl dying or it being reported..well we have the 2nd biggest population after china..so such things can easily get lost among the poor or between corrupt politicians..

08-06-2006, 06:41 AM	#19 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,484 OS: Mac OSX	They all use different recipes because Coke tastes MUCH better than Pepsi. I sure as heck hope they show the recipe, I'm getting kinda nervous here. __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy

08-07-2006, 03:43 AM	#20 (permalink)
hempknight TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 644 OS: XP Pro	...yeah think of all the intestinal bacteria, dustmites,weevil eggs,skin flakes and other general crap all that pesticide might have killed!!! @_@