% of problems that result in loss of internet connectivit

gruimed · 06-10-2006, 07:00 AM

What is the % of problems that result in loss of internet connectivit

**koala** · 06-10-2006, 08:14 AM

It's impossible to put a figure on it. Losing your connection during an online game or an update can be inconvenient, but won't do any harm to the system. What kind of problems do you have in mind?

gruimed · 06-10-2006, 01:54 PM

Well... I was referring to a "permanent" loss of internet connectivity. Like broken broadband configuration

yustr · 06-10-2006, 07:25 PM

Let's face it. PC's and internet connections, once working, are very relaiable. Unless and until I do something to disrupt it. So again, the bigest culprit is the operator.

I've had a few drop outs but in 4-5 years of broadband I've not been off line for more than a day - ever.

gruimed · 06-11-2006, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yustr

... are very relaiable. Unless and until I do something to disrupt it.

That something is what I'm interested in.

For some reason, people constantly answer me about the cause of the problem when I'm asking about the problem itself.

Volt-Schwibe · 06-11-2006, 09:40 AM

i might be wrong, but what i see being asked is,

when computers have problems, and need servicing, what is the likelyhood that it will have no internet connectivity.

my answer is about 50% and here is why...

power supply failure,
hard disk failure,
motherboard/cpu failure
ram failure
modem/network card failure

all those are common, and also, will obviously result in internet failure.

gruimed · 06-12-2006, 02:03 AM

Interesting. But do you really think that the problems you mentioned account for 50% of all computer related problems ?

**Glaswegian** · 06-12-2006, 06:30 AM

I have found children and spouses can cause loss of conectivity. But I guess that's back to users again!

Krus · 06-12-2006, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Glaswegian

I have found children and spouses can cause loss of conectivity. But I guess that's back to users again!

Unless you consider them an integral part of your PC ;)

**Glaswegian** · 06-12-2006, 06:37 AM

Hi Krus and welcome to TSF.

I do not consider them integral - they should not be allowed anywhere near my PC!!

Krus · 06-12-2006, 06:50 AM

What about their PC ;) ?

ocimico · 06-12-2006, 07:06 AM

It's never their pc... When they break it, it becomes our problem

Anyways, the connections nowaday are really stable, unless user forgets his password (or decides to change it, since dialers tend to remember passwords nowadays)...
The only possible causes i've met of true disconnection are either hardware failures, or ISP-related mess (especially when ISP insists on his own access module). Ah, yes, user paranoia too (overconfigured firewalls, for instance)

But if you consider a severe interference to the connection to be a loss of connectivity (like spyware infestations, popup windows etc), then it's spread rises sharply...

**Spatcher** · 06-12-2006, 07:08 AM

Honestly, my problem was with squirrels!!

They ate through some wire and it resulted in massive internet connection loss, for weeks at a time!!! I seriously was offline for 2 and a half weeks last summer.

gruimed · 06-12-2006, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocimico

But if you consider a severe interference to the connection to be a loss of connectivity (like spyware infestations, popup windows etc), then it's spread rises sharply...

Yes, I do consider these to be a loss of connectivity. So please vote, I kinda really need these statistics :)

gruimed · 06-12-2006, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spatcher

Honestly, my problem was with squirrels!!

Well, it counts, so vote please ;)

ocimico · 06-12-2006, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spatcher

Honestly, my problem was with squirrels!!

They ate through some wire and it resulted in massive internet connection loss, for weeks at a time!!! I seriously was offline for 2 and a half weeks last summer.

It's not nice to call users that

(In fact, users chew wires sometimes, but network cables are usually too low and behind the CPU... Cats can be a problem, though)

Krus · 06-12-2006, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocimico

It's not nice to call users that

(In fact, users chew wires sometimes, but network cables are usually too low and behind the CPU... Cats can be a problem, though)

that's why WLAN is the future :)

View Poll Results: % of problems that result in loss of internet connectivit
5	2	9.09%
10	3	13.64%
20	2	9.09%
30	7	31.82%
40	6	27.27%
50	1	4.55%
60	0	0%
70	0	0%
80	1	4.55%
90	0	0%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

06-10-2006, 07:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
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06-10-2006, 08:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 9,293 OS: XP/UBUNTU My System	It's impossible to put a figure on it. Losing your connection during an online game or an update can be inconvenient, but won't do any harm to the system. What kind of problems do you have in mind? __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

06-10-2006, 07:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 5,007 OS: XP Pro My System	Let's face it. PC's and internet connections, once working, are very relaiable. Unless and until I do something to disrupt it. So again, the bigest culprit is the operator. I've had a few drop outs but in 4-5 years of broadband I've not been off line for more than a day - ever. __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas

06-11-2006, 09:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
Volt-Schwibe Asst. Manager, Automotive Forums; HJT Trainee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Behind you, watching you as you type. Posts: 7,241 OS: Click "My System" to view details My System	i might be wrong, but what i see being asked is, when computers have problems, and need servicing, what is the likelyhood that it will have no internet connectivity. my answer is about 50% and here is why... power supply failure, hard disk failure, motherboard/cpu failure ram failure modem/network card failure all those are common, and also, will obviously result in internet failure. __________________ <signature> TSF is funded by our Admin's pocket, care to help? New Members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. Power Tip: Creating a single new thread in the correct section is the best way to assure your thread will receive a reply. </signature>

06-10-2006, 01:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
gruimed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 20 OS: linux	Well... I was referring to a "permanent" loss of internet connectivity. Like broken broadband configuration

06-12-2006, 02:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
gruimed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 20 OS: linux	Interesting. But do you really think that the problems you mentioned account for 50% of all computer related problems ?

06-12-2006, 06:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Glaswegian Moderator/ Rangemaster TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team; Oor Wullie; TSF Surgeon and Resident Comic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 21,762 OS: Win XP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 10	I have found children and spouses can cause loss of conectivity. But I guess that's back to users again! __________________ Iain - Defender of the Haggis and all things Scottish. I don't help by PM - post in the Forums. Ad-Aware::SpywareBlaster::SpyBot::SpywareGuard::SnoopFree::AVG Free::HOSTS File::HijackThis::Donate::5 Steps For Infected PCs

06-12-2006, 06:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
Glaswegian Moderator/ Rangemaster TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team; Oor Wullie; TSF Surgeon and Resident Comic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 21,762 OS: Win XP Pro SP3 My System Blog Entries: 10	Hi Krus and welcome to TSF. I do not consider them integral - they should not be allowed anywhere near my PC!! __________________ Iain - Defender of the Haggis and all things Scottish. I don't help by PM - post in the Forums. Ad-Aware::SpywareBlaster::SpyBot::SpywareGuard::SnoopFree::AVG Free::HOSTS File::HijackThis::Donate::5 Steps For Infected PCs

06-12-2006, 06:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
Krus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3 OS: WinME	What about their PC ;) ?

06-12-2006, 07:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
ocimico Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3 OS: WinXP, MacOS, Linux	It's never their pc... When they break it, it becomes our problem Anyways, the connections nowaday are really stable, unless user forgets his password (or decides to change it, since dialers tend to remember passwords nowadays)... The only possible causes i've met of true disconnection are either hardware failures, or ISP-related mess (especially when ISP insists on his own access module). Ah, yes, user paranoia too (overconfigured firewalls, for instance) But if you consider a severe interference to the connection to be a loss of connectivity (like spyware infestations, popup windows etc), then it's spread rises sharply...

06-12-2006, 07:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,467 OS: XP Home SP2 My System	Honestly, my problem was with squirrels!! They ate through some wire and it resulted in massive internet connection loss, for weeks at a time!!! I seriously was offline for 2 and a half weeks last summer. __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy