Which client?

JohnthePilot · 08-14-2008, 03:56 AM

I've just built myself a new machine and would appreciate advice on the best client to use. I'm running an Intel E8400 on a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P mobo with an ATI FireGL V3600 graphics card. I have 4 GB Corsair DDR2.
Thanks.

**koala** · 08-14-2008, 07:29 AM

SMP client for multi-core CPUs ( link - 2nd one from the bottom). Read the instructions carefully, it's slightly different to the standard clients and needs the DeinoMPI service to be installed first.

JohnthePilot · 08-14-2008, 11:47 AM

Thanks koala. It looks very complicated but I'll give it a go.

JohnthePilot · 08-15-2008, 06:42 PM

I ignored all the instructions and simply downloaded and installed the client. It's running fine and very quick.

**koala** · 08-15-2008, 06:51 PM

Spoken like a true man. Who needs instructions?

JohnthePilot · 08-16-2008, 02:46 AM

RTFM is for when things go wrong.

EDIT: My CPU usage is 50%. Can I assume from this that only one core is being used?

**Glaswegian** · 08-17-2008, 08:59 AM

Sounds likely John. PC Wizard says my cores are being used at 70% and 14% so I've probably got some room for improvement.

**koala** · 08-17-2008, 09:10 AM

John, click the Performance tab in Task Manager, then select View > CPU History and change it to 'One graph per CPU' to get a better idea of CPU usage.

And under the Processes tab, right-click the FahCore exe and click 'Set Afinity'. How many of the cores listed are in use?

JohnthePilot · 08-17-2008, 09:24 PM

Neither core seems to be running very high. Set to Affinity showed both cores available. In FAH, CPU usage is set to 100%. Despite that it's ripping through 500 frame WUs.

JohnthePilot · 09-06-2008, 08:11 PM

I've had problems with the 6.22 beta so I've gone back to 6.20.
I can't believe the speed of this processor. Since I installed it I've gone from 11434 points to 17873.

**Glaswegian** · 09-07-2008, 07:39 AM

I had to uninstall the 6.22 and re-install after it locked me out. I was within about 10% of completion as well. Noticed that the points for the WUs I'm receiving are 1920 although it's 23 minutes for 1%. However the time allowed is now 6 days for these ones.

JohnthePilot · 09-07-2008, 07:47 AM

I'm getting through a 10,000 WU in about 8 hours. I've found out that to run both my cores at 100% I have to have two clients running so I've now got the console 6.20 client running as you can't have two GUI clients running at the same time.

Arretu · 10-11-2008, 06:56 PM

which yould be best to use with an E8400 processor and 2*8800GT? the multicore one or the GPU one?

atm just running the standard one, veeeery slow :p

**koala** · 10-11-2008, 07:06 PM

The GPU one, definitely. It's much faster than the standard or multi-core clients and doesn't use anywhere near as much CPU/system resources (approx 10% of one CPU core).

I find it doesn't interfere with general desktop apps, but when you go into 3D mode for games or play a video you might want to turn it off temporarily.

As far as I know, the GPU client will only use one of your 8800s. If you can monitor your graphics cards while running it, can you please post back to say if both are being used? Thanks.

Arretu · 10-12-2008, 03:08 AM

*salutes
will do it in a while. off to gym :( facist gf

Arretu · 10-12-2008, 05:45 AM

well still working out how to monitor my GPUs is everest what I need? ) but noticed a MASSIVE improvement in speed. getting around 2000-3500 iterations/second (or on a 25000 unit job, 0.01% per second)

edit: well nvidia system monitor does not show GPU usage. any ideas?

**koala** · 10-12-2008, 06:10 AM

You can use nTune in the nvidia control panel, Everest, RivaTuner, etc. Any program that displays GPU temperatures and clock speeds will show you if both cards are being used.

Arretu · 10-12-2008, 07:14 AM

heh ntune refuses to install on my system. will get rivatuner later on.

edit: now having probloems. the foldingathome client starts when I tell it to, but then just closes itself, no idea why.

Arretu · 10-12-2008, 07:34 PM

OK no can do atm, as I need 2 monitors and one of mine is broken atm :( I will get on it as soon as I have 2 functional monitors again. client wont recognise the second GPU unless there is a monitor plugged in and the desktop is extended onto the second monitor. sorry.

JohnthePilot · 10-13-2008, 02:17 PM

Since changing my system I no longer get failed WUs and have now shot from 11,000 points to 50,000+ points which takes me into 10th place.

08-14-2008, 03:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,785 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Which client? I've just built myself a new machine and would appreciate advice on the best client to use. I'm running an Intel E8400 on a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P mobo with an ATI FireGL V3600 graphics card. I have 4 GB Corsair DDR2. Thanks. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

08-14-2008, 07:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,193 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Which client? SMP client for multi-core CPUs ( link - 2nd one from the bottom). Read the instructions carefully, it's slightly different to the standard clients and needs the DeinoMPI service to be installed first. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

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JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,785 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which client? Thanks koala. It looks very complicated but I'll give it a go. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

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JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,785 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which client? I ignored all the instructions and simply downloaded and installed the client. It's running fine and very quick. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

08-15-2008, 06:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,193 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Which client? Spoken like a true man. Who needs instructions? __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

08-16-2008, 02:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,785 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which client? RTFM is for when things go wrong. EDIT: My CPU usage is 50%. Can I assume from this that only one core is being used? __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015 Last edited by JohnthePilot; 08-16-2008 at 05:19 PM.

08-17-2008, 08:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Glaswegian Moderator/ Rangemaster TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team; Oor Wullie; TSF Surgeon and Resident Comic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 25,186 OS: Win XP Pro SP3 / Win 7 Pro My System Blog Entries: 10	Re: Which client? Sounds likely John. PC Wizard says my cores are being used at 70% and 14% so I've probably got some room for improvement. __________________ Iain - Defender of the Haggis and all things Scottish. I don't help by PM - post in the Forums. PC Safety & Security::PC running a bit slow?::Donate::Photographers Corner

08-17-2008, 09:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,193 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Which client? John, click the Performance tab in Task Manager, then select View > CPU History and change it to 'One graph per CPU' to get a better idea of CPU usage. And under the Processes tab, right-click the FahCore exe and click 'Set Afinity'. How many of the cores listed are in use? __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

08-17-2008, 09:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,785 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which client? Neither core seems to be running very high. Set to Affinity showed both cores available. In FAH, CPU usage is set to 100%. Despite that it's ripping through 500 frame WUs. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

09-06-2008, 08:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,785 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which client? I've had problems with the 6.22 beta so I've gone back to 6.20. I can't believe the speed of this processor. Since I installed it I've gone from 11434 points to 17873. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

09-07-2008, 07:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Glaswegian Moderator/ Rangemaster TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team; Oor Wullie; TSF Surgeon and Resident Comic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 25,186 OS: Win XP Pro SP3 / Win 7 Pro My System Blog Entries: 10	Re: Which client? I had to uninstall the 6.22 and re-install after it locked me out. I was within about 10% of completion as well. Noticed that the points for the WUs I'm receiving are 1920 although it's 23 minutes for 1%. However the time allowed is now 6 days for these ones. __________________ Iain - Defender of the Haggis and all things Scottish. I don't help by PM - post in the Forums. PC Safety & Security::PC running a bit slow?::Donate::Photographers Corner

09-07-2008, 07:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,785 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which client? I'm getting through a 10,000 WU in about 8 hours. I've found out that to run both my cores at 100% I have to have two clients running so I've now got the console 6.20 client running as you can't have two GUI clients running at the same time. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015 Last edited by JohnthePilot; 09-07-2008 at 04:16 PM.

10-11-2008, 06:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Arretu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leeds, UK Posts: 34 OS: Vista 64 Ultimate	Re: Which client? which yould be best to use with an E8400 processor and 2*8800GT? the multicore one or the GPU one? atm just running the standard one, veeeery slow :p

10-11-2008, 07:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,193 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Which client? The GPU one, definitely. It's much faster than the standard or multi-core clients and doesn't use anywhere near as much CPU/system resources (approx 10% of one CPU core). I find it doesn't interfere with general desktop apps, but when you go into 3D mode for games or play a video you might want to turn it off temporarily. As far as I know, the GPU client will only use one of your 8800s. If you can monitor your graphics cards while running it, can you please post back to say if both are being used? Thanks. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

10-12-2008, 03:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
Arretu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leeds, UK Posts: 34 OS: Vista 64 Ultimate	Re: Which client? *salutes will do it in a while. off to gym :( facist gf __________________ http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2327/fh2wy7.jpg

10-12-2008, 05:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
Arretu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leeds, UK Posts: 34 OS: Vista 64 Ultimate	Re: Which client? well still working out how to monitor my GPUs is everest what I need? ) but noticed a MASSIVE improvement in speed. getting around 2000-3500 iterations/second (or on a 25000 unit job, 0.01% per second) edit: well nvidia system monitor does not show GPU usage. any ideas? __________________ http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2327/fh2wy7.jpg Last edited by Arretu; 10-12-2008 at 05:58 AM.

10-12-2008, 06:10 AM	#17 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,193 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Which client? You can use nTune in the nvidia control panel, Everest, RivaTuner, etc. Any program that displays GPU temperatures and clock speeds will show you if both cards are being used. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

10-12-2008, 07:14 AM	#18 (permalink)
Arretu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leeds, UK Posts: 34 OS: Vista 64 Ultimate	Re: Which client? heh ntune refuses to install on my system. will get rivatuner later on. edit: now having probloems. the foldingathome client starts when I tell it to, but then just closes itself, no idea why. __________________ http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2327/fh2wy7.jpg Last edited by Arretu; 10-12-2008 at 07:15 AM.

10-12-2008, 07:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
Arretu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leeds, UK Posts: 34 OS: Vista 64 Ultimate	Re: Which client? OK no can do atm, as I need 2 monitors and one of mine is broken atm :( I will get on it as soon as I have 2 functional monitors again. client wont recognise the second GPU unless there is a monitor plugged in and the desktop is extended onto the second monitor. sorry. __________________ http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2327/fh2wy7.jpg

10-13-2008, 02:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 30,785 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which client? Since changing my system I no longer get failed WUs and have now shot from 11,000 points to 50,000+ points which takes me into 10th place. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015