Which program do you most want us to team up in? - Page 7

JohnthePilot · 10-23-2007, 02:31 PM

At least they are taking our results so it's not wasted time and effort.

**Doby** · 10-23-2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Quit 101 - Fatal error: NaN detected: (ener[xx])
Quit 101 - Fatal error: NaN detected: (ener[xx])
...snip...
Folding@home Core Shutdown: EARLY_UNIT_END
xx can be 0, 11, 12, 13, 18, 20, or perhaps other values.

From Gromacs.org: The error comes from coordinates being NaN (not a number). The physical reason for this is that particles come too close to each other.
The most frequent cause of this error is an unstable CPU, which causes incorrect results to be inserted into the simulation. This is turn can result in molecules being reported in different (wrong) positions sometimes manifesting itself in this error.

John,

Your temps are fine,
When you installed the video card did you disable the onboard grahics and remove the drivers?
I still think the issue is your motherboard as with alot of boards in that era it can't handle all the ram dimms being occupied, a work around for this was to up the ram voltages or vdim by 0.2 but your bios don't support that.

The alternative as we discussed would be to install two 1 gig sticks and I forget if I told you this,,,,,,,,,, before purchasing new ram try removing the stick in dimm 2 as a test, this would prove my theory about the 3 dimms being occupied correct or not.

If it still don't work like that don't waste your money on new ram and just keep the 3 rams you now have.

JohnthePilot · 10-23-2007, 10:53 PM

Hi Doby,
Firstly, yes I did disable the onboard graphics and associated drivers. Secondly, yes, I did try what you suggested, but I suffered a performance loss as a result. The problem is that my Total Commit Charge is already way over my Available Physical Memory (1034M/557M) and not because of FAH. The short term answer would be 2 x 1G sticks, but ultimately, I think I am going to have to consider a new board and CPU when I can afford it.

**Doby** · 10-24-2007, 05:02 PM

Hi John,

Yes I know what you mean, I would like to have a dual core system but its on hold till I save for a new pickup truck

JohnthePilot · 10-24-2007, 05:13 PM

Hi Doby,
I've gone for the extra memory. Should be here tomorrow (today, actually. I must go to bed.

). http://tinyurl.com/2hcxkm
I've gone for two sticks so I can set them up as dual-channel. I'll let you know how I get on.

JohnthePilot · 10-27-2007, 02:25 PM

I ran for 56 hours and completed 1093 frames then I got this message.

[20:17:30] Gromacs cannot continue further.
[20:17:30] Going to send back what have done.
[20:17:30] logfile size: 63454
[20:17:31] - Writing 63990 bytes of core data to disk...
[20:17:31] Done: 63478 -> 7525 (compressed to 11.8 percent)
[20:17:31] ... Done.

That happened a couple of times with 0 frames then I started getting the instability message again. I'm going to give my machine a bit of a rest as I need to shut it down for some maintenance.

**kodi** · 10-28-2007, 04:43 PM

Sometimes it does close early so do not worry about this one just if it happens a lot.
I am beginning to think that the instability problem on mine has to do with vista as I get a BSOD on rare occasions (about 10-14 days) with a memory management error message that I have been told is a vista problem and to be quite honest i have been too lazy to research and repair as it reboots and every thing is okay again
One of these days I will get around to it

JohnthePilot · 10-28-2007, 04:54 PM

I suspect the Gromacs message is to do with them. I do seem to be getting a lot of instability messages though, but I'm being credited with the WUs. I'm just not getting any points for them.

**mattlock** · 10-28-2007, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnthePilot

I suspect the Gromacs message is to do with them. I do seem to be getting a lot of instability messages though, but I'm being credited with the WUs. I'm just not getting any points for them.

Hi John. They accept the returned WU even though it's not completed, but they resend the WU to another donor for completion. Then compare the other donors results to the failed results.

As for the system instability, since you are running an ATI video card, you could try the GPU Client and see if you have any better success with that.

JohnthePilot · 10-28-2007, 05:45 PM

OK, Matt, I'll give that a go.

EDIT: Is that the 5.91 beta6?

**mattlock** · 10-28-2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yustr

OK, now I'm totally lost...

I tried joining and got to the download...went to the referenced Wiki and wholly crapolly ....its way over my Linux head. Can someone walk me through it any better than THIS ?

I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 LTS...

Hello Yustr.

If you are still working on getting FaH installed on Linux, try using Finstall. I'm a complete novice when it comes to Linux and Finstall worked for me in Linux Mint.

http://fahwiki.net/index.php/A_Compl...LL_for_NEWbies

Good Luck.

JohnthePilot · 10-28-2007, 05:49 PM

You posted too quick.

Is that the 5.91 beta6 or 6.00 beta 1?

**mattlock** · 10-28-2007, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnthePilot

OK, Matt, I'll give that a go.

EDIT: Is that the 5.91 beta6?

Actually John, I'm not sure that it'll work on the X1550. It says it supports the X1600, 1800, and 1900, but no mention of the 1550. Hold off until I can find out if it supports your card.

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10-23-2007, 02:31 PM	#121 (permalink)
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10-24-2007, 05:13 PM	#125 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Asst Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 25,776 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which program do you most want us to team up in? Hi Doby, I've gone for the extra memory. Should be here tomorrow (today, actually. I must go to bed. ). http://tinyurl.com/2hcxkm I've gone for two sticks so I can set them up as dual-channel. I'll let you know how I get on. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015 Last edited by JohnthePilot : 10-24-2007 at 05:25 PM.

10-27-2007, 02:25 PM	#126 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Asst Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 25,776 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which program do you most want us to team up in? I ran for 56 hours and completed 1093 frames then I got this message. [20:17:30] Gromacs cannot continue further. [20:17:30] Going to send back what have done. [20:17:30] logfile size: 63454 [20:17:31] - Writing 63990 bytes of core data to disk... [20:17:31] Done: 63478 -> 7525 (compressed to 11.8 percent) [20:17:31] ... Done. That happened a couple of times with 0 frames then I started getting the instability message again. I'm going to give my machine a bit of a rest as I need to shut it down for some maintenance. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

10-28-2007, 04:43 PM	#127 (permalink)
kodi Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 6,334 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate, XP Professional My System	Re: Which program do you most want us to team up in? Sometimes it does close early so do not worry about this one just if it happens a lot. I am beginning to think that the instability problem on mine has to do with vista as I get a BSOD on rare occasions (about 10-14 days) with a memory management error message that I have been told is a vista problem and to be quite honest i have been too lazy to research and repair as it reboots and every thing is okay again One of these days I will get around to it __________________ Brian

10-28-2007, 04:54 PM	#128 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Asst Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 25,776 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which program do you most want us to team up in? I suspect the Gromacs message is to do with them. I do seem to be getting a lot of instability messages though, but I'm being credited with the WUs. I'm just not getting any points for them. __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015

10-28-2007, 05:45 PM	#130 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Asst Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 25,776 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which program do you most want us to team up in? OK, Matt, I'll give that a go. EDIT: Is that the 5.91 beta6? __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015 Last edited by JohnthePilot : 10-28-2007 at 05:47 PM.

10-28-2007, 05:49 PM	#132 (permalink)
JohnthePilot Asst Manager, TSF Articles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cheltenham, near Wales. Posts: 25,776 OS: XP Home SP3, PCLinux, Vista Home Premium SP1 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which program do you most want us to team up in? You posted too quick. Is that the 5.91 beta6 or 6.00 beta 1? __________________ Submit New Articles Here If you feel that TSF has helped you please make a donationand help to keep the forum free Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon Folding@Home - Team 85015