Mellijelli

Totally, so this is what i have done.... went to do a little research as I like to have all the facts Playstation Blog here is a blog that explains all that it takes to develop a game and let me say there is a lot of funding and effort that it takes to do so, not to mention an army of people employed to do various things, I supposed a person could make a really simple game yourself but if you want something professional Id say leave it to the professionals....

Engineer Babar

hey why not take a look at this...
http://www.fastgraph.com/makegames/chapt1.html

Engineer Babar

@phoenyxrising
All the software engineers are not game programmers and all the game programmers are not software engineers. Simple...
A software engineer designs, builds and organizes software projects. They also elicit software requirements from customers. A video game programmer just programs code for video games. Two completely different things.

Mellijelli

Thanks for that article Engineer Barbar had a read and found it quite interesting, so its all about the programming mostly I see but, I prefer to be the Artist personally that is my area, I work on photoshop mostly and enjoy desktop design and photo manipulation but its a passion one has to do such things, so its good to find your niche and go for that, this way you will always succeed at what you do.

Reading that article, a game created using clip art..... um no thats just not right, come one now haha, take for example games like WoW, now THOSE are proper game avatars the details are amazing compared to a clip art figure there just is no comparison, 10 out of 10 times when i see a game its the graphics that catch my eye first, as an artist it would of course be the first thing I look at, and the game play is also very important.

PhoenyxRising

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Crysis and sonic. Two different games on 2 completely different levels.

CompSci the actual requirements of a game developer.

It states that you need to go to a university and have c++ coding experience as well. now last i checked was that c++ and a number of other languages are taught at university level.

Many of which good game developers actually have. it depends on the kind of game you want to make i suppose, but the mor popular games have higher requirements. and i can garauntee you that the artists working on the graphics for these games have some formal training as well.

They arent two completely different things. C++ is a versatile language that can be used broadly. NOT specifically for games OR specifically for applications. you get the degree and then decide wot it is you want to do with it.

With both sonic AND crysis, coding was used, but the difference was that the coding for crysis was much more complex and intricate. the crysis engine alone was a breakthrough. there are literally hundreds of sandbox applications out there that you can learn to use, and do all the hard work for you so you dont need actual qualifications, but it wont be anything like crysis or even quake.

Mellijelli

PhoenyxRising coding for games can get very complicated of course, one has to know what ur doing and u cant go wrong with a university degree in C++ especially if ur looking to work for big gaming companies like RockStart and Ubisoft, Konami or Capcom there are many, those are just some of my fav creators for games i have already played (SH, Project Zero, GTA SA) and so on.

C++ is very widely used in the software industry, and it is still one of the most popular languages ever created. Some of its application domains include systems software, application software, device drivers, embedded software, high-performance server and client applications, and entertainment software such as video games (my fav)

Btw PhoenyxRising Sonic I played way back when but even then it was an awsome game they have since improved on it as they do with all games such as the Lara Croft games they just keep getting better and better.

Engineer Babar

ok, ok phoenyx wins.. hehehe
@mellijelli
Oh artist?? you paint??

PhoenyxRising

yayy lol i win MelliJelli, what kind of art are you into?

aw sonic was the best. I loved that little hedgehog, but he has evolved yes. Just like lara has.

Mellijelli

I do paint yes and other art such as drawing with pencil, handcrafts such as jewelery making, but most of my time i spend doing digital art its a great way to express yourself and this i do on photoshop.

PhoenyxRising

Yea, I can relate MelliJelli, I love art as well. but i mainly work on photoshop. I have played with fractal art as well, but i prefer photomanipulation. its also very rewarding, and a great way to de stress

Engineer Babar

oh great phoenyx and mellijelli.. You both are familiar with photoshop.. A friend of mine told me that it is a bit complicated??

PhoenyxRising

Photoshop looks complicated, but it really isnt. you just have to get familiar with its tools. Its more advanced than paint, and more preferred than the Gimp.

I started learning about it a year ago, and i can say with a resonable amount of confidence that im starting to understand it.

Mellijelli

No, photoshop is quite easy once u get the hang of it, plus if ur a beginner there are some fantastic photoshop tutorials that you can Google which have taught me some invaluable stuff and there are MANY to choose from, so if you have some spare time and can start by playing around on it and getting the feel of how everything works and where you could easily be pro in just a few months, it helps to have some determination on these kind of things too

Engineer Babar

Hey that signature of mellijelli are attracting me.. That quotation.. hmmmmm.. You both agree with it?? I am a bit confused..

Mellijelli

What Pablo Picasso meant Engineer Barber is that everything you can imagine in your mind can become a reality through art, when you create art it comes from ideas formed in your imagination, then you put them down on a canvas or whatever your art form is and make it a reality.

PhoenyxRising

What he said was true, and is probably the mantra of every artist i know. we love seeing our dreams put to a medium of some sort, its makes our dreams a reality in a way.

Engineer Babar

But this rule applies not to everything because everything we imagine doesn't became a reality.. Like I imagined my girlfriend to become only mine and to marry me but till now this is not a reality.. May be not
But I am trying my best

Mellijelli

Ok I maybe did not explain this properly lets see ..... I was referring to expressing what your imagination sees and feels and creates then transferring all of that by doing artwork, therefore you can look at what you have created from your imagination in reality but not physically, rather on a drawing or a picture so it will have "come to life" so to say on a piece of paper or on a desktop wallpaper that you have created. You cannot bring your imagination and wishes to life literally Engineer Babar, these things come naturally with prayer and patience and working hard to achieve the things that will ultimately make you happy in your life, if your girlfriend loves you and you show her that you can look after her, love and cherish her the way she deserves to be, then she will see that for herself and then maybe it will lead to marriage, these things take time and wishing for them wont work, as with everything in life marriage is something that takes commitment from both sides.

PhoenyxRising

MelliJelli's right. For me, when i look at photos i want to use, i try picture it in my mind. then it begins to fit together like a puzzle. Everything falls into place, and at the end of it all i have something that i can really be proud of.

Relationships are a little harder than that. you have to work at it, its really really hard, but if you both work together and both have the same goals, things are lot easier.

Have a good weekend.

phoenyx