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Old 03-09-2008, 11:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

When I do a Tracert to Speedguide the first hop I go to in the outside world is a private IP addy, Whats wrong here?
192.168.0.1 is my router.Thanks. : 4-dontkno

C:\Documents and Settings\a.1>tracert www.speedguide.net

Tracing route to speedguide.net [66.230.207.58]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 34 ms 33 ms 31 ms 10.6.25.1
3 33 ms 31 ms 31 ms P12-1.LCR-01.PITBPA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.33.2
24]
4 37 ms 38 ms 39 ms so-7-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.ASH.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.10.94]
5 40 ms 39 ms 40 ms eqix.asbn.twtelecom.net [206.223.115.36]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 74 ms 73 ms 72 ms 66.193.50.238
8 75 ms 73 ms 73 ms te3-4.co2.as30217.net [84.40.24.50]
9 76 ms 75 ms 75 ms e49te.dr5.as30217.net [84.40.24.82]
10 75 ms 73 ms 75 ms bce0-ss1.sr1a.as30217.net [84.40.24.134]
11 75 ms 77 ms 73 ms speedguide.net [66.230.207.58]

Trace complete.

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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

Please supply the following info, exact make and models of the equipment please.

What country are you located in.
Name of your ISP (Internet Service Provider).
Make and exact model of the broadband modem.
Make and exact model of the router (if a separate unit).
Model numbers can usually be obtained from the label on the device.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

Pittsburgh area. Verizon Internet DSL. D-Link DI-604 router with firmware up date.
Modem is bridged Westell 6100.

When Internetfrog.com runs a trace back to me it stops at hop 10.



Hop Rtt Rtt Rtt IP Address Domain Name
1 0 0 0 209.164.48.154 209.164.48.154.static.sna.hosting.com
2 1 0 0 216.237.168.1 ge10-0.dcr2.dc-irvine-ca.sna.hosting.com
3 4 4 4 63.65.154.77 POS1-0.GW3.LAX9.ALTER.NET
4 4 4 5 152.63.113.62 153.at-6-0-0.XR1.LAX9.ALTER.NET
5 5 5 5 152.63.115.158 0.so-3-0-1.XT1.LAX9.ALTER.NET
6 71 71 71 152.63.0.169 0.so-5-0-0.XT1.DCA5.ALTER.NET
7 73 73 73 152.63.36.206 0.so-4-1-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net
8 79 79 79 130.81.28.213 P14-0.LCR-03.PITBPA.verizon-gni.net
9 83 83 83 130.81.27.194 P15-0.LCR-01.PITBPA.verizon-gni.net
10 84 84 84 130.81.33.225 P8-0.PITBPADT-ERXG03.PITBPA.verizon-gni.net
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 * * *
14 * * *
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

These tests, and previous, done with the firewall lowered. 8Signs (name) Firewall is set to allow all traffic. I think the last few lines are most important.

A test run from: http://nitro.ucsc.edu/


WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
checking for firewalls . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 134.0kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 721.32kb/s

------ Client System Details ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.5.0_05

------ Web100 Detailed Analysis ------
Cable modem/DSL/T1 link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
No network congestion discovered.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 650.31 msec; the Packet size = 1452 Bytes; and
No packet loss was observed.
C2S throughput test: Packet queuing detected: 4.58%
S2C throughput test: Packet queuing detected: 10.61%
This connection is receiver limited 82.35% of the time.
Increasing the the client's receive buffer (63.0 KB) will improve performance
This connection is network limited 17.49% of the time.

Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: OFF

Server 'nitro.ucsc.edu' is not behind a firewall. [Connection to the ephemeral port was successful]
Client is probably behind a firewall. [Connection to the ephemeral port failed]
Information: Network Middlebox is modifying MSS variable
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Information: Network Address Translation (NAT) box is modifying the Client's IP address
Server says [71.182.170.23] but Client says [192.168.0.100]
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

Pittsburgh, PA. sorry I just realized there are more than one Pittsburgh. My Pittsburgh is at the north end of the Ohio river.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

What does the tracert look like connected directly to the modem? An IPCONFIG /ALL connected directly would be useful too.
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

Bypass the router and connect directly to the bridged modem.

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C:\Documents and Settings\a.1>tracert www.speedguide.net
Unable to resolve target system name www.speedguide.net.

C:\Documents and Settings\a.1>


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Bypass the router and connect directly to the bridged modem.

C:\Documents and Settings\a.1>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : a1
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
rnet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-26-00-CA-49
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 71.252.0.12
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\a.1>netstat -a
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

Should I try to reconfigure the modem to get on the internet without the router?
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

Yep, that will allow us to actually see what happens with a TRACERT too.
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

O.K. But first I have to find my copy of Lavanet bridging instructions so I can change it back to bridged when done.
I couldn't find it on the Lavanet site today.
I will probably have to talk to Verizon tech support to reconfigure the modem after I reset it to factory specs. I don't remember the address for the router.

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You can get on the Internet without changing the modem from bridging mode. You just need to configure a PPPoE connection on the machine.
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

LOL!! I did it. I reset the modem before I knew any better and reconfigured it to surf the net. I made the files you requested by setting my firewall to "allow all traffic".
I made tracert speedguide, ipconfig /all, route print, netstat -a/-an

Thanks for taking the time to help me Johnwill.

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C:\Documents and Settings\a.1>tracert www.speedguide.net

Tracing route to speedguide.net [66.230.207.58]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 32 ms 32 ms 33 ms 10.6.25.1
3 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms P12-1.LCR-01.PITBPA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.33.2
24]
4 37 ms 38 ms 39 ms so-7-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.ASH.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.10.94]
5 39 ms 40 ms 39 ms eqix.asbn.twtelecom.net [206.223.115.36]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 72 ms 73 ms 71 ms 66.193.50.238
8 72 ms 75 ms 73 ms te3-4.co2.as30217.net [84.40.24.50]
9 84 ms 73 ms 75 ms e49te.dr5.as30217.net [84.40.24.82]
10 76 ms 75 ms 73 ms bce0-ss1.sr1a.as30217.net [84.40.24.134]
11 76 ms 76 ms 75 ms speedguide.net [66.230.207.58]

Trace complete.

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C:\Documents and Settings\a.1>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : a1
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
rnet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-26-00-CA-49
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.47
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
71.252.0.12
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\a.1>tracert www.speedguide.net
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

A more recent TRACERT edited for spacing to improve viewing. Pleas note #9, internap-gw.customer.alter.net

Tracing route to www.speedguide.com [66.150.161.136]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]

2 34 ms 31 ms 34 ms 10.6.25.1

3 32 ms 33 ms 31 ms P12-1.LCR-01.PITBPA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.33.224]

4 36 ms 38 ms 37 ms 130.81.28.12

5 38 ms 42 ms 40 ms 0.so-5-1-0.XT2.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.36.213]


6 117 ms 116 ms 105 ms 0.so-1-0-0.XT2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.2.133]

7 116 ms 105 ms 106 ms POS5-0.XR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.106.234]

8 117 ms 105 ms 115 ms 194.ATM4-0.GW3.SEA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.105.197]

9 115 ms 105 ms 116 ms internap-gw.customer.alter.net [208.214.103.138]

10 106 ms 105 ms 116 ms border5.ge5-1-bbnet1.sef.pnap.net [63.251.160.10]

11 108 ms 117 ms 117 ms redirectf.dnsix.com [66.150.161.136]
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

Since you have a 192.168.x.x address as the first hop, you still have a NAT layer in there somewhere.
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

How can I set up PPPoE so I can bypass the router and go directly through the bridged modem ? Will that give the desired results?
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Yep, I thought that's what we already did.
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Re: Tracert shows 10.6.25.1 as first external hop

No I bypassed to to the modem before your note arrived about PPPoE thru the bridged router.
I reset the modem to Verizons modem only settings. And when when I was done tracing I reset it back to bridged (I hope) The Lava net page about bridging seems to be gone. I found another page that was almost as good at http://www.flex.com/adsl/westell_6100/

So now I'm back to the D-link DI-604 thru the bridged Westell 6100.

I don't know how to bypass the router and go straight thru the bridged modem.

I guess I unplug the routers ethernet cable from the modem and plug the ethernet cable from my computer directly into the modem?? The I'm not sure what comes next.
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