Wireless networking

ADChick · 11-12-2005, 07:44 PM

I wanted to know what options i have to get broadband to my room. currently i can use dial up in my room as i have a phone socket which i plug my laptop in. now we have broadband i need to way to get it up here. its currently set up on the pc downstairs with a asdn modem connected via usb.

running a wire from there to my room is a problem so i was wondering how easy a wireless network is to set up. my laptop is wireless enabled by my pc isnt, and my pc isnt always switched on so id need to be able 2 use bb without it. any ideas what i can do???

**JamesO** · 11-12-2005, 07:48 PM

Get a wireless router and connect it to the modem via Ethernet. Hopefully your PC has a Ethernet port, if not, usually you can buy a PCI Ethernet card for between $5-$15.

Your upstairs machine will need a wireless client card. You might consider a USB wireless client device, but do not purchase a USB wireless key, as they do not have good antennas.

Then you need to worry about using 2.4 GHz cordless phones in the house!

JamesO

ADChick · 11-12-2005, 07:54 PM

ok ill have to get my hands on one. btw whats the reach on one of these??

the machine upstairs is my laptop, so do i need anything for it as it is already wireless enabled. i keep gettin the wireless network from next door popping up!

on a side note, pardon my ignorance, but whats that about phones?

EDIT: i also wanted to go online with my ps2 in my room. what can i do with that?

**JamesO** · 11-13-2005, 05:08 AM

Range is dependant on a lot of factors. Many advertise 300 or more feet range. This may be possible. However, if you are seperated by 1 or 2 floors, do not expect this kind of range.

If your laptop is wireless enabled this is a good thing, however, if you have the Intel PRO 2100 or 2200 wireless card in your laptop, watch out. You need to upgrade the driver and possibly use something other than the Windows Wireless Management.

As for the 2.4 GHz digital cordless phones, they share some of the same channels as the wireless networking equipment and in some cases when someone uses the wireless phone, it can knock you wireless connection out.

If you want to hook up your PS2, you will need a wireless game adapter like this:

Wireless Game Adapter

Another Wireless Game Adapter

Jameso

ADChick · 11-13-2005, 06:44 AM

ok thx for your help.

one more problem, my modem connects to mmy pc via usb. will this connect to a wireless router? and will i have to install all the modem software on my laptop, and my pc again?

ps, what sort of speeds can you get wirelessly, i can hit around 30kb on average, will i get that through wireless??

**JamesO** · 11-13-2005, 07:27 AM

What type of broadband do you have? Cable, DSL, or other?

I do not install any software provided by the broadband supplier on machines, it usually causes more problems.

As for the current computer conntect via USB, you need to see if this computer currently has a Ethernet connection on it. It looks like a wider telephone connection, usually on the motherboard or a PCI expansion slot card with a single connector and 2 small LED's near the connector.

If your PC does not have an Ethernet card, you will need to purchase on and install it. I usually get the PCI cards, vs. the USB, they are usually between $5-$15 if you shop around.

One last thing to remember, anytime you change the connection to your broadband modem, you need to power it off for 30 seconds and back on. If you have cable modem service, you probably can connect the router up out of the box without any additional configuration. If you have DSL service, you will need to configure the router for PPPoE and enter the DSL account name and password.

JamesO

ADChick · 11-13-2005, 10:15 AM

well its an asdn modem if that helps. i really know nothing about networking. so i have to plug my modem into a wireless router via usb, then the router to the pc via ethernet cable. my laptop should then be able to wirelessly connect. am i right?

**JamesO** · 11-13-2005, 01:28 PM

Do you have DSL or ISDN? Please post the make and modem of the modem.

Hopefully your modem has an Ethernet port, as not many router support USB.

You want to get away from USB for all networking if possible.

JamesO

ADChick · 11-13-2005, 02:17 PM

well i think its isdn (does this mean i cant play ps2 online

)

its a thomson speedtouch 330 and it doesnt have an ethernet port on it....

i take it this isnt looking gud and could cost me big money.....

**JamesO** · 11-13-2005, 03:16 PM

Looks like you have DSL and your DSL modem does not support Ethernet.

Who is your DSL provider/local telephone company?

You might be able to get a used DSL modem on Ebay with Ethernet for around $20. But you really need to upgrade a lot of stuff on your end.

If you ever want to get more than 1 computer on line, a decent DSL modem with Ethernet is something you should consider.

You might be able to contact your DSL provider and they may exchange the modem for a unit with Ethernet and/or wireless and Ethernet?

JamesO

ADChick · 11-13-2005, 03:23 PM

right ok. its tiscali i get my broadband through.

at the mo if i want my pc and laptop online, i connect my laptop to my pc via ethernet cables + hub and share the connection.

so what i need is a ethernet with wireless and ethernet??

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?NOV-54ADSL

would something like this be ok? then i just plug it into my phone socket, to my pc via ethernet and its wireless enabled??

**JamesO** · 11-13-2005, 04:23 PM

Looks like this might be a good solution.

JamesO

ADChick · 11-13-2005, 04:28 PM

ok thanks alot for your help.

ill order this 2moro and see how we go from there.

ADChick · 11-13-2005, 07:56 PM

quick question, is there anyway to find out if it is isdn or not? im not sure

**JamesO** · 11-13-2005, 08:43 PM

Looks like a DSL modem to me! ADSL = Asymmetrical DSL

Speedtouch 330

JamesO

11-12-2005, 07:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
ADChick Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77 OS: WinXP	Wireless networking I wanted to know what options i have to get broadband to my room. currently i can use dial up in my room as i have a phone socket which i plug my laptop in. now we have broadband i need to way to get it up here. its currently set up on the pc downstairs with a asdn modem connected via usb. running a wire from there to my room is a problem so i was wondering how easy a wireless network is to set up. my laptop is wireless enabled by my pc isnt, and my pc isnt always switched on so id need to be able 2 use bb without it. any ideas what i can do???

11-12-2005, 07:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
ADChick Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77 OS: WinXP	ok ill have to get my hands on one. btw whats the reach on one of these?? the machine upstairs is my laptop, so do i need anything for it as it is already wireless enabled. i keep gettin the wireless network from next door popping up! on a side note, pardon my ignorance, but whats that about phones? EDIT: i also wanted to go online with my ps2 in my room. what can i do with that? Last edited by ADChick; 11-12-2005 at 07:56 PM.

11-13-2005, 07:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
JamesO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA USA Posts: 2,289 OS: 98SE, W2k Pro, XP Pro	What type of broadband do you have? Cable, DSL, or other? I do not install any software provided by the broadband supplier on machines, it usually causes more problems. As for the current computer conntect via USB, you need to see if this computer currently has a Ethernet connection on it. It looks like a wider telephone connection, usually on the motherboard or a PCI expansion slot card with a single connector and 2 small LED's near the connector. If your PC does not have an Ethernet card, you will need to purchase on and install it. I usually get the PCI cards, vs. the USB, they are usually between $5-$15 if you shop around. One last thing to remember, anytime you change the connection to your broadband modem, you need to power it off for 30 seconds and back on. If you have cable modem service, you probably can connect the router up out of the box without any additional configuration. If you have DSL service, you will need to configure the router for PPPoE and enter the DSL account name and password. JamesO Last edited by JamesO; 11-13-2005 at 07:29 AM.

11-12-2005, 07:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
JamesO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA USA Posts: 2,289 OS: 98SE, W2k Pro, XP Pro	Get a wireless router and connect it to the modem via Ethernet. Hopefully your PC has a Ethernet port, if not, usually you can buy a PCI Ethernet card for between $5-$15. Your upstairs machine will need a wireless client card. You might consider a USB wireless client device, but do not purchase a USB wireless key, as they do not have good antennas. Then you need to worry about using 2.4 GHz cordless phones in the house! JamesO

11-13-2005, 05:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
JamesO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA USA Posts: 2,289 OS: 98SE, W2k Pro, XP Pro	Range is dependant on a lot of factors. Many advertise 300 or more feet range. This may be possible. However, if you are seperated by 1 or 2 floors, do not expect this kind of range. If your laptop is wireless enabled this is a good thing, however, if you have the Intel PRO 2100 or 2200 wireless card in your laptop, watch out. You need to upgrade the driver and possibly use something other than the Windows Wireless Management. As for the 2.4 GHz digital cordless phones, they share some of the same channels as the wireless networking equipment and in some cases when someone uses the wireless phone, it can knock you wireless connection out. If you want to hook up your PS2, you will need a wireless game adapter like this: Wireless Game Adapter Another Wireless Game Adapter Jameso

11-13-2005, 06:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
ADChick Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77 OS: WinXP	ok thx for your help. one more problem, my modem connects to mmy pc via usb. will this connect to a wireless router? and will i have to install all the modem software on my laptop, and my pc again? ps, what sort of speeds can you get wirelessly, i can hit around 30kb on average, will i get that through wireless??

11-13-2005, 10:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
ADChick Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77 OS: WinXP	well its an asdn modem if that helps. i really know nothing about networking. so i have to plug my modem into a wireless router via usb, then the router to the pc via ethernet cable. my laptop should then be able to wirelessly connect. am i right?

11-13-2005, 01:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
JamesO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA USA Posts: 2,289 OS: 98SE, W2k Pro, XP Pro	Do you have DSL or ISDN? Please post the make and modem of the modem. Hopefully your modem has an Ethernet port, as not many router support USB. You want to get away from USB for all networking if possible. JamesO

11-13-2005, 02:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
ADChick Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77 OS: WinXP	well i think its isdn (does this mean i cant play ps2 online ) its a thomson speedtouch 330 and it doesnt have an ethernet port on it.... i take it this isnt looking gud and could cost me big money.....

11-13-2005, 03:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
JamesO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA USA Posts: 2,289 OS: 98SE, W2k Pro, XP Pro	Looks like you have DSL and your DSL modem does not support Ethernet. Who is your DSL provider/local telephone company? You might be able to get a used DSL modem on Ebay with Ethernet for around $20. But you really need to upgrade a lot of stuff on your end. If you ever want to get more than 1 computer on line, a decent DSL modem with Ethernet is something you should consider. You might be able to contact your DSL provider and they may exchange the modem for a unit with Ethernet and/or wireless and Ethernet? JamesO

11-13-2005, 03:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
ADChick Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77 OS: WinXP	right ok. its tiscali i get my broadband through. at the mo if i want my pc and laptop online, i connect my laptop to my pc via ethernet cables + hub and share the connection. so what i need is a ethernet with wireless and ethernet?? http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?NOV-54ADSL would something like this be ok? then i just plug it into my phone socket, to my pc via ethernet and its wireless enabled??

11-13-2005, 04:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
JamesO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA USA Posts: 2,289 OS: 98SE, W2k Pro, XP Pro	Looks like this might be a good solution. JamesO

11-13-2005, 04:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
ADChick Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77 OS: WinXP	ok thanks alot for your help. ill order this 2moro and see how we go from there.

11-13-2005, 07:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
ADChick Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77 OS: WinXP	quick question, is there anyway to find out if it is isdn or not? im not sure

11-13-2005, 08:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
JamesO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA USA Posts: 2,289 OS: 98SE, W2k Pro, XP Pro	Looks like a DSL modem to me! ADSL = Asymmetrical DSL Speedtouch 330 JamesO