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Old 05-09-2009, 11:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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File Sharing wirless, Windows XP to Vista

Hello,

I would like to set up a file sharing network from XP to Vista Home via wireless connection.

I have no network experience so need some help in doing so.

I would like to have one folder to share things to. The rest of the folders
cannot be be viewed or shared.

How do I do this?

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Since Ive put a WPA-PSK Encryption, generally that should be enough right?

What I don't understand is WEP and WPA-PSK Encryption offers one password to bypass. So what makes WPA-PSK Encryption better or harder to hack?
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Yes, if you use a strong password, WPA is way better than WEP.

Quote from: http://markbowers.org/blog/?q=node/104

The way WEP works is that it encrypts transmissions with pseudo-random numbers. The random number is essentially based on the key that you provide. Encrypted messages are sent along with a 24-bit initialization vector which is sent in the clear. The clients use the initilization vector in union with the WEP key that you entered in order to decrypt the rest of the message. The trouble is that, due to the design of WEP, every once in a while, a weak initialization vector will be used, and part of the original key can be determined from the vector. Since the IVs are sent in the clear, if you gather enough of them, you can determine the entire WEP key.
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Ok Ive read the link provided and don't seem to get anyway. I've set up the network on Vista to allow me to share but dont seem to find the files on the other computer (XP).

USergroup name is the same on both computers.

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Under Vista

Network Discovery: ON
Network set to Private
File Sharing: ON
Public Folder Sharing: ON
Password Protected: OFF
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Can you ping both ways by computer name?



Let's see this for each of the computers.


Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt:

In the command prompt window that opens, type type the following commands, one at a time, followed by the Enter key:

Note that there is a space before the -n or the /ALL, but there is NOT a space after the - or / in the following commands.

NBTSTAT -n

IPCONFIG /ALL


Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter to copy the contents to the clipboard.
Paste the results in a message here.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.
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johnwill please can you edit my post of any IP address that maybe of use to others. Not sure if it is wise to post IP addresses. Thanks

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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\"name of User">NBTSTAT -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.65] Scope Id: []

                NetBIOS Local Name Table

       Name               Type         Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    "name of User"  <00>  UNIQUE      Registered
    WORKGROUP      <00>  GROUP       Registered
   "name of User"  <20>  UNIQUE      Registered
    WORKGROUP      <1E>  GROUP       Registered
    WORKGROUP      <1D>  UNIQUE      Registered
    ..__MSBROWSE__.<01>  GROUP       Registered

C:\Documents and Settings\"name of User">IPCONFIG /ALL

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : "name of User"
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/
1000Base-T Controller
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-8C-7B-AD-01
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.65
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12 May 2009 13:41:18
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 13 May 2009 13:41:18

C:\Documents and Settings\"name of User">
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Re: File Sharing wirless, Windows XP to Vista

Under View Network connections in XP I see two computers my desktop and my laptop.

I can see my laptop vista drive when i click on it it says

Laptop is not accessible.

You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the admin to find out if youy have permission. The network path was not found.

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The IP addresses are all local network IP addresses, and millions of people have the same address. They're totally worthless to anyone that would want to do you harm.



You only posted the XP data, I need to see both.
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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
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C:\Users\user1>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

    No names in cache

Bluetooth Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

    No names in cache

Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.67] Scope Id: []

                NetBIOS Local Name Table

       Name               Type         Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    KWONGJT        <00>  UNIQUE      Registered
    BT5EE0         <00>  GROUP       Registered
    KWONGJT        <20>  UNIQUE      Registered
    BT5EE0         <1E>  GROUP       Registered

C:\Users\user1>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : username
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-5D-EF-01-6A
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 13 May 2009 09:11:36
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 May 2009 09:11:35
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ether
net Controller
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-BA-AD-21-1F
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\Users\user1>
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You never answered the ping question I posed previously.


Turn off any firewalls for debugging. If the firewall is the problem, you'll have to configure it to allow access to "trusted zone" addresses. Note that some firewalls must be completely uninstalled to stop them from affecting your networking.

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt.

In the command prompt window that opens, type type the following commands:

PING each remote computer by IP address, and if successful, PING by name. Open a command prompt as described above and type.

PING <ip address>
or
PING <computer name>


Where:
<ip address> - is the x.x.x.x IP address
<computer name> - is the computer name

A failure to PING is almost always a firewall configuration issue. Any failure to PING needs to be corrected before you go any farther.

Note: You can obtain the IP address and computer name of a computer by opening a command prompt (DOS window) and typing IPCONFIG /ALL. This should work for any Windows version. The IPCONFIG /ALL display will provide a wealth of useful information for debugging your network connection.

Check your Services are Started on all PCs:
  • COM+ Event System (for WZC issues)
  • Computer Browser
  • DHCP Client
  • DNS Client
  • Network Connections
  • Network Location Awareness
  • Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
  • Server
  • TCP/IP Netbios helper
  • Wireless Zero Configuration (XP wireless configurations)
  • WLAN AutoConfig (Vista wireless configurations)
  • Workstation

Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.

All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic.

If a service is not running, open it's properties and check the dependencies. Check each of the dependencies and see which one is preventing the service from running. Checking the event log is also a good idea here, there may be clues to what is failing.


All computers should be in the same workgroup for computer browsing to function properly. File & Print Sharing has to be enabled on any computer you wish to share files or printers from. You also need to actually share the resource in question from My Computer, right click on the drive/printer/folder, and select sharing.

If you encounter difficulties accessing computers that are visible in Network Places (Network and Sharing Center in Vista), make sure the computer being accessed has an account with the same name/password as the system connecting to it uses to login. NOTE: Vista's default is to require a password on the account to enable file/print sharing.

While the default NetBIOS setting is correct for normal network configurations, it's possible for it to be altered, and it costs nothing to make sure it's correct. NETBIOS over TCP/IP must be enabled for normal network browsing. You can open a command prompt as described above and type the following command: nbtstat -n. This will display the status of NetBIOS or indicate it's not configured.
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Hi John sorry for the late reply, been busy and hadn't gotten around to do this but this week I have had a looked at it and managed to get both computers to connect over my router.

However it seems that the problem all along is my firewall. On both computers I have windows firewall off and Zonealarm activated. My computers are only able to see my each other if my zonealarm is switched off.

How do I set it so zonealarm is able to allow my networks to see each other without switching my firewall off and on?

I have had a look at the "program control" in ZA. There I can see trusted zones, however can't see anything related to my BT router or IP? as it only contains programs.

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John, looking at again,

I found found the add IP trusted zone section and have tried adding the IP both as normal and as a range.

My Xp IP is 192. XXX.XX.66
My Vista IP is 192. XXX.XX.67

Not sure why they are two different IPs? I have tried adding them as a range from 66-67 but nothing works?
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My Ipconfig info is as


IPv4 Adress 192.xxx.x.67
Submask 225.xxx.xxx.0
Default gateway 192.xx.x.xxx

I am not sure what I am suppose to add to the zonealarn trusted zones. Do I add an Ipaddress? IPv4?or default gatewat?

Or do I add a IP range?

Or a submask?
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Oh got it working.

I set the IP range to be larger then 192.xxx.x.66 - 192.xxx.x.67

I set it to range from 0 - 255 as people on google has suggested.

Just wondering since the IP address is a long range, can other people access my computer who are connected to my network but don't have permission to? because for some reason I have a network name displayed a Thomson which has a printer icon inside it with nothing itside?

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The trusted zone is 192.168.1.x, in other words any address that starts with 192.168.1.?

What kind of encryption are you using? With WPA or WPA2, you shouldn't have any freeloaders on the network.
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on mt network. Nit sure who it is.I still see a thomson folder
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How about a screen shot of what you see?


To post a screen shot of the active window, hold the Alt key and press the PrtScn key. Open the Windows PAINT application and Paste the screen shot. You can then use PAINT to trim to suit, and save it as a JPG format file. To upload it to TSG, open the full reply window and use the Manage Attachments button to upload it here.
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I just shut down my PC and switched my laptop on since that shows the network icons better as it's vista. Then noticed my desktop network line doesn't show up. Does my desktop have to be ON for my laptop to see my desktop on the network?

The Thomson folder didn't show up but then after refreshing it came back up again then disappeared

Edit: The Thomson folder came back on the network again. Not sure who it is as it seems to be a computer but there should only be 2 computers connected?

Inside the Thomson folder is an empty printer folder.


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