[SOLVED] Dial-up home network

heatherfish24 · 07-03-2008, 12:49 AM

Hello everyone! I will apologize if someone has already asked this question as I do not have the time to browse all of the threads with dial-up.

I will try to explain this the best that I can. I have two computers. Computer 1 is hooked up to the internet through a dial-up connection. Computer 2 is conected to a hub that is connected to computer 1. My goal is to create a home network so that computer 2 can share computer 1's internet connection and I can host LAN parites. (call of duty fan) I ran the wizard 1st on computer 1 then on computer 2 Computer 2 says that there is little or no connectivity and when I try to repair it says that it cannot aquire a network address. Neither computer has recognized one another. I have previously had a home network on these computers. It took me one whole day to figure out how to do it. It worked. To this day, I don't know what I did right. I've recently disected computer 1 and built a new one using its hardrive and some of its other guts, and my husband got a virus or something and had to restore computer number 2 (don't get me started). Thus leading to the demise of my once perfectly working home network. I have not been lucky this time in getting it to work. Any help is deeply appreciated. I miss kicking butt on call of duty 4.

Techie.UK · 07-04-2008, 09:38 AM

Hi heatherfish24,

Welcome to TSF, I hope I can help you with your Networking problem!

Could you tell me how the two computers are connected (i.e. what cables and what type of hub you are referring to).

Thanks.

johnwill · 07-04-2008, 11:24 AM

I think you're dreaming about playing on-line games with multiple computers using a dial-up connection!

Please be more specific about what you actually are trying to do?

heatherfish24 · 07-05-2008, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwill

I think you're dreaming about playing on-line games with multiple computers using a dial-up connection!

Please be more specific about what you actually are trying to do?

Tell me about it. I can see the telephone pole that provides cable internet a sad 100 yards away from the end of my driveway. I'm not familiar with the ligo I guess. I just play host to who ever wants to come over hook up to our network hub and play. Not online. I want to set up a home network so that I can host games on that network, share files and music and dial-up through computer 1 to allow both computers to browse the web at the same time.

heatherfish24 · 07-05-2008, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Techie.UK

Hi heatherfish24,

Welcome to TSF, I hope I can help you with your Networking problem!

Could you tell me how the two computers are connected (i.e. what cables and what type of hub you are referring to).

Thanks.

Thank you! I'm very glad there is a place like this on the web. If we can get this networking thing fixed, I do believe that i will be giving a donation.

Ok bare with me. I don't know the tecnical names. Computer 1 is connected to a linksis 5 port work group hub, by way of a big blue cat 5 cable that looks like an oversized telephone cable. It is connected into the slot that says "uplink". Computer 2 is connected to this hub using the same type of cable and it is connected to the slot that says "1". This hub is self powered. Nothing about the cables or the way that they are hooked up has changed since the last time that I had my home network set up. The only change, is that computer one is now different. Same hard drive, but totally different mother board, graphics card, power sup, etc... The only thing that I wish to accomplish as far as internet is I would like computer 2 to dial up through computer 1 just like it used to so that my husband and I can get online at the same time.
Thanks for helping to figure this out.

amcsupport · 07-05-2008, 02:55 AM

Hi,
This Riyaz khan & Welcome to amcsupport and hope I can help you with your Networking problem
if you are using cross cable check crimping code
give same IP range on both computer
after that give same workgroup name

heatherfish24 · 07-05-2008, 03:23 AM

I do apologize, but I do not know what cross cable check crimping code, or IP range mean. I do however know that I gave them the same workgroup name when I ran the network wizard.

Techie.UK · 07-05-2008, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heatherfish24

Thank you! I'm very glad there is a place like this on the web. If we can get this networking thing fixed, I do believe that i will be giving a donation.

Ok bare with me. I don't know the tecnical names. Computer 1 is connected to a linksis 5 port work group hub, by way of a big blue cat 5 cable that looks like an oversized telephone cable. It is connected into the slot that says "uplink". Computer 2 is connected to this hub using the same type of cable and it is connected to the slot that says "1". This hub is self powered. Nothing about the cables or the way that they are hooked up has changed since the last time that I had my home network set up. The only change, is that computer one is now different. Same hard drive, but totally different mother board, graphics card, power sup, etc... The only thing that I wish to accomplish as far as internet is I would like computer 2 to dial up through computer 1 just like it used to so that my husband and I can get online at the same time.
Thanks for helping to figure this out.

Hi heatherfish24,

Could you please go to Start > Run and enter cmd then when the window with the black background is open please type in ipconfig /all and post the results here. Please do this for both pc's and identify which one is directly connected to the internet.

Also could you please enter the product code/number for the hub you are using.

Thanks.

heatherfish24 · 07-05-2008, 02:18 PM

OK,...but I was wondering...I know that the info helps, but, is posting my IP address and other info safe? Also, Computer 1 connects directly to the internet through a telephone cable that is hooked into a wall jack. Back of hub reads as follows: modle no: EW5HUB, FCCID: KFYPEH5, Numbers on the sticker at the bottom: 819001686 LEH5 0. These are all of the numbers and codes that I can find. It was given to me a long time ago by someone that didn't use it anymore, so I've never had the box.

heatherfish24 · 07-05-2008, 02:19 PM

also, computer 2 is not hooked up to a wall jack at all, just the hub.

Techie.UK · 07-05-2008, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heatherfish24

is posting my IP address and other info safe?

You can PM it to me.

(You can do this by clicking my username and selecting Send a private message to Techie.UK)

Techie.UK · 07-06-2008, 03:47 PM

Hi heatherfish24,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

Could you please try unplugging the cable going into Uplink and instead plug it into 1 and move the cable that was previously in 1 to 2. Then please repeat the network setup wizard on each PC again.

Let me know how you get on.

NB: Both PC's and the Hub should be switched off while swapping the cables!

heatherfish24 · 07-07-2008, 01:56 AM

OK I will do this....

heatherfish24 · 07-07-2008, 02:22 AM

Ok I did as you said and turned off the computers, swiched the cables in the hub, and started them back up. I ran the network wizard on this computer (computer 1) and it brought up a message saying : An error occured during the configuration of the network on this computer. You can configure your network manually, or you can run the wizard again with diffferent settings.

When I ran the wizard I selected the following options in the following order:

This computer is connected to the internet directly and other computers connect to the inter net through this one

I then selected my internet service in a list (my dial-up connection)

I then selected my network adapter out of a list. (This is weird, because it says that I have 2 of the same network adapters and one is labeled as #2. I have tryed the wizard using both of them together and both seperately previously And have gotten the same error message. When I look in hardware manager, it says that the only one that I have is the one thats is labeled #2. So this time when I ran the wizard I chose just that one.)

I then named my computer the same name that I always use

I then used the same workgroup name that i always use

I then said, yes enable printer and folder sharing

I then ran the wizard and got the error message

I didn't run the wizard on computer 2 because I want to set this one up as the main one.
Is that right or am I incorrect?

So I guess the question is...did I use the wrong settings? Or is my computer confused about network adapters?

Oh dear.....

Techie.UK · 07-07-2008, 05:30 AM

Okay in the Network Setup Wizard try selecting other Connection types and choose This computer connects to the internet directly or through a hub. If the same error occurs try each of the other, Other options in turn.

Let me know how you get on!

heatherfish24 · 07-07-2008, 07:11 AM

Ok..I tryed this and got no error, but still no recognition that the computers even know each other exist. I tryed other multitudes of combos....nothing. I can't help but wondering.....when I open the network connections window on computer 1, I don't have a Local Area Connection, disabled or other wise. I used to. I don't know what happened to it. I just have my dial-up connection at the top and 1394 connection and 1394 connection #2 below it. On computer 2 I don't have a dial-up connection set up, because one was not required last time. But I do have a 1394 connection and a Local Area Connection. The local area connection has limited or no connectivity. Could this be the problem maybe? I mean...that computer 1 doesn't have a Local Area Connection like it used to?

Techie.UK · 07-07-2008, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heatherfish24

Could this be the problem maybe? I mean...that computer 1 doesn't have a Local Area Connection like it used to?

Yes that could definitely be your problem. Your Local Area Connection Adapter must of dissapeared when you changed Computer #1.

Could you please tell me the make and model of computer #1.

Also please go to Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Information.
Then open the sublists Components > Network > Adapters. Please post the Adapters data here.
(If any IP addresses are visible feel free to replace them with ***.***.*.*)

heatherfish24 · 07-07-2008, 10:50 AM

Computer 1 is hand built from new parts and old dell xps 400 HDDS. It has a P5N-D asus mobo, intel core two guad, nvidia 9800 gtx 512 vid card, 2 gig ram (taken from old dell), 500 watt psup (was just told I needed a bigger one), liteon HDD 150 GB (taken from an old dell computer), windows xp media center sp2. It was my first build, so at this point

07-03-2008, 12:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
heatherfish24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arkansas, US Posts: 28 OS: xp media center sp2	[SOLVED] Dial-up home network Hello everyone! I will apologize if someone has already asked this question as I do not have the time to browse all of the threads with dial-up. I will try to explain this the best that I can. I have two computers. Computer 1 is hooked up to the internet through a dial-up connection. Computer 2 is conected to a hub that is connected to computer 1. My goal is to create a home network so that computer 2 can share computer 1's internet connection and I can host LAN parites. (call of duty fan) I ran the wizard 1st on computer 1 then on computer 2 Computer 2 says that there is little or no connectivity and when I try to repair it says that it cannot aquire a network address. Neither computer has recognized one another. I have previously had a home network on these computers. It took me one whole day to figure out how to do it. It worked. To this day, I don't know what I did right. I've recently disected computer 1 and built a new one using its hardrive and some of its other guts, and my husband got a virus or something and had to restore computer number 2 (don't get me started). Thus leading to the demise of my once perfectly working home network. I have not been lucky this time in getting it to work. Any help is deeply appreciated. I miss kicking butt on call of duty 4. __________________ Eventually little boxes run out of oxygen. I'd hate to be in one.

07-04-2008, 09:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Techie.UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 84 OS: Windows XP SP3 and Vista SP1	Re: Dial-up home network Hi heatherfish24, Welcome to TSF, I hope I can help you with your Networking problem! Could you tell me how the two computers are connected (i.e. what cables and what type of hub you are referring to). Thanks.

07-04-2008, 11:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dial-up home network I think you're dreaming about playing on-line games with multiple computers using a dial-up connection! Please be more specific about what you actually are trying to do? __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

07-05-2008, 02:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
amcsupport Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5 OS: windows server 2003 sp1	Re: Dial-up home network Hi, This Riyaz khan & Welcome to amcsupport and hope I can help you with your Networking problem if you are using cross cable check crimping code give same IP range on both computer after that give same workgroup name

07-05-2008, 03:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
heatherfish24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arkansas, US Posts: 28 OS: xp media center sp2	Re: Dial-up home network I do apologize, but I do not know what cross cable check crimping code, or IP range mean. I do however know that I gave them the same workgroup name when I ran the network wizard. __________________ Eventually little boxes run out of oxygen. I'd hate to be in one.

07-05-2008, 02:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
heatherfish24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arkansas, US Posts: 28 OS: xp media center sp2	Re: Dial-up home network OK,...but I was wondering...I know that the info helps, but, is posting my IP address and other info safe? Also, Computer 1 connects directly to the internet through a telephone cable that is hooked into a wall jack. Back of hub reads as follows: modle no: EW5HUB, FCCID: KFYPEH5, Numbers on the sticker at the bottom: 819001686 LEH5 0. These are all of the numbers and codes that I can find. It was given to me a long time ago by someone that didn't use it anymore, so I've never had the box. __________________ Eventually little boxes run out of oxygen. I'd hate to be in one.

07-05-2008, 02:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
heatherfish24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arkansas, US Posts: 28 OS: xp media center sp2	Re: Dial-up home network also, computer 2 is not hooked up to a wall jack at all, just the hub. __________________ Eventually little boxes run out of oxygen. I'd hate to be in one.

07-06-2008, 03:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Techie.UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 84 OS: Windows XP SP3 and Vista SP1	Re: Dial-up home network Hi heatherfish24, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Could you please try unplugging the cable going into Uplink and instead plug it into 1 and move the cable that was previously in 1 to 2. Then please repeat the network setup wizard on each PC again. Let me know how you get on. NB: Both PC's and the Hub should be switched off while swapping the cables! Last edited by Techie.UK : 07-06-2008 at 03:52 PM.

07-07-2008, 01:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
heatherfish24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arkansas, US Posts: 28 OS: xp media center sp2	Re: Dial-up home network OK I will do this.... __________________ Eventually little boxes run out of oxygen. I'd hate to be in one.

07-07-2008, 02:22 AM	#14 (permalink)
heatherfish24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arkansas, US Posts: 28 OS: xp media center sp2	Re: Dial-up home network Ok I did as you said and turned off the computers, swiched the cables in the hub, and started them back up. I ran the network wizard on this computer (computer 1) and it brought up a message saying : An error occured during the configuration of the network on this computer. You can configure your network manually, or you can run the wizard again with diffferent settings. When I ran the wizard I selected the following options in the following order: This computer is connected to the internet directly and other computers connect to the inter net through this one I then selected my internet service in a list (my dial-up connection) I then selected my network adapter out of a list. (This is weird, because it says that I have 2 of the same network adapters and one is labeled as #2. I have tryed the wizard using both of them together and both seperately previously And have gotten the same error message. When I look in hardware manager, it says that the only one that I have is the one thats is labeled #2. So this time when I ran the wizard I chose just that one.) I then named my computer the same name that I always use I then used the same workgroup name that i always use I then said, yes enable printer and folder sharing I then ran the wizard and got the error message I didn't run the wizard on computer 2 because I want to set this one up as the main one. Is that right or am I incorrect? So I guess the question is...did I use the wrong settings? Or is my computer confused about network adapters? Oh dear..... __________________ Eventually little boxes run out of oxygen. I'd hate to be in one.

07-07-2008, 05:30 AM	#15 (permalink)
Techie.UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 84 OS: Windows XP SP3 and Vista SP1	Re: Dial-up home network Okay in the Network Setup Wizard try selecting other Connection types and choose This computer connects to the internet directly or through a hub. If the same error occurs try each of the other, Other options in turn. Let me know how you get on!

07-07-2008, 07:11 AM	#16 (permalink)
heatherfish24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arkansas, US Posts: 28 OS: xp media center sp2	Re: Dial-up home network Ok..I tryed this and got no error, but still no recognition that the computers even know each other exist. I tryed other multitudes of combos....nothing. I can't help but wondering.....when I open the network connections window on computer 1, I don't have a Local Area Connection, disabled or other wise. I used to. I don't know what happened to it. I just have my dial-up connection at the top and 1394 connection and 1394 connection #2 below it. On computer 2 I don't have a dial-up connection set up, because one was not required last time. But I do have a 1394 connection and a Local Area Connection. The local area connection has limited or no connectivity. Could this be the problem maybe? I mean...that computer 1 doesn't have a Local Area Connection like it used to? __________________ Eventually little boxes run out of oxygen. I'd hate to be in one. Last edited by heatherfish24 : 07-07-2008 at 07:13 AM.

07-07-2008, 10:50 AM	#18 (permalink)
heatherfish24 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arkansas, US Posts: 28 OS: xp media center sp2	Re: Dial-up home network Computer 1 is hand built from new parts and old dell xps 400 HDDS. It has a P5N-D asus mobo, intel core two guad, nvidia 9800 gtx 512 vid card, 2 gig ram (taken from old dell), 500 watt psup (was just told I needed a bigger one), liteon HDD 150 GB (taken from an old dell computer), windows xp media center sp2. It was my first build, so at this point