[SOLVED] IP vs Server Name

crystalv · 03-26-2008, 02:20 PM

I am having a bit of an issues adding a workstation to an existing network.

Only one server
2003 Business Server
Using Roaming Profiles
Server is DHCP Server
Server is a domain controler
Some workstations are Vista some are XP

Upgraded a workstation from XP home to XP professional so it could attach to the domain. Ran in to a little problem, which I am worried may lead to even bigger problems.

Workstations that are already attached can access the server by going \\server OR 192.168.1.100. However, if you navagate to it through network places, you can not see the Server. You can see all of the other computers in the network.

This new workstation can only access the server by going 192.168.1.100. It can not find the server using \\server. This causes issues with the roaming profiles.

johnwill · 03-27-2008, 06:36 AM

On the server and the new PC in question, please do this.

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt:

Type the following two commands, one at a time, followed by the Enter key:

NBTSTAT -n

IPCONFIG /ALL

Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
Paste the results in a message here.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.

crystalv · 03-27-2008, 07:30 AM

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>ping 192.168.1.100

Pinging 192.168.1.100 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.100:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>ping homeserver
Ping request could not find host homeserver. Please check the name and try again
.

C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection 2:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.7] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
OLDSHIPPING <00> UNIQUE Registered
HOME <00> GROUP Registered
OLDSHIPPING <20> UNIQUE Registered
HOME <1E> GROUP Registered

C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : OldShipping
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : home.energy
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : bnin.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-47-FE-85-CF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:32:34 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:32:34 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>

crystalv · 03-27-2008, 09:31 AM

Server =

Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.HOME-1YQ0Z7F1LV>NBTSTAT -n

Server Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.100] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.HOME-1YQ0Z7F1LV>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HOMESERVER
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : home.energy
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home.energy

Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ether
net Controller #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-FC-E3-9B-07
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.HOME-1YQ0Z7F1LV>

johnwill · 03-28-2008, 07:29 AM

What does the IPCONFIG from a working computer look like?

crystalv · 03-29-2008, 11:53 AM

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\sherryg>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sherryspc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : home.energy
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home.energy

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-66-2F-58-ED
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, March 28, 2008 9:09:16 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:09:16 AM

C:\Documents and Settings\sherryg>

johnwill · 03-29-2008, 01:39 PM

How does it work booted in safe mode with networking? Sure looks like it should work.

crystalv · 03-31-2008, 05:17 AM

Ah, that is going to be difficult to do as I am doing most of this support via Log-Me-In.

johnwill · 03-31-2008, 06:02 AM

Some problems can't always be resolved from a remote location.

crystalv · 04-01-2008, 07:03 AM

The pc that can't access by name and the other pc's give the same thing when ipcfg in safe mode.

johnwill · 04-01-2008, 07:11 AM

Check your Services are Started on all PCs:

Computer Browser
DHCP Client
DNS Client
Network Connections
Network Location Awareness
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Server
TCP/IP Netbios helper
Workstation

Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.

All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic (or perhaps manual).

crystalv · 04-05-2008, 07:27 AM

Yes, all of those services are started.

johnwill · 04-05-2008, 09:37 AM

Well, that's odd to say the least!

I see one difference, and maybe it's the reason this is happening. Note that the DNS Suffix Search List is different for that machine than the server or the working machine. See if this page helps you sort that out: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/275553

crystalv · 04-21-2008, 06:46 AM

Well, ended up just completely formatting and now it works. Thanks for the ideas!

johnwill · 04-21-2008, 07:38 AM

Well, that's the extreme solution, but at least it's fixed.

03-26-2008, 02:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
crystalv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 OS: XP	[SOLVED] IP vs Server Name I am having a bit of an issues adding a workstation to an existing network. Only one server 2003 Business Server Using Roaming Profiles Server is DHCP Server Server is a domain controler Some workstations are Vista some are XP Upgraded a workstation from XP home to XP professional so it could attach to the domain. Ran in to a little problem, which I am worried may lead to even bigger problems. Workstations that are already attached can access the server by going \\server OR 192.168.1.100. However, if you navagate to it through network places, you can not see the Server. You can see all of the other computers in the network. This new workstation can only access the server by going 192.168.1.100. It can not find the server using \\server. This causes issues with the roaming profiles.

03-27-2008, 06:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Re: IP vs Server Name On the server and the new PC in question, please do this. Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt: Type the following two commands, one at a time, followed by the Enter key: NBTSTAT -n IPCONFIG /ALL Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter. Paste the results in a message here. If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

03-27-2008, 07:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
crystalv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 OS: XP	Re: IP vs Server Name Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>ping 192.168.1.100 Pinging 192.168.1.100 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.100: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>ping homeserver Ping request could not find host homeserver. Please check the name and try again . C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>nbtstat -n Local Area Connection 2: Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.7] Scope Id: [] NetBIOS Local Name Table Name Type Status --------------------------------------------- OLDSHIPPING <00> UNIQUE Registered HOME <00> GROUP Registered OLDSHIPPING <20> UNIQUE Registered HOME <1E> GROUP Registered C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : OldShipping Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : home.energy Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : bnin.net Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-47-FE-85-CF Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:32:34 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:32:34 PM C:\Documents and Settings\timothym>

03-27-2008, 09:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
crystalv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 OS: XP	Re: IP vs Server Name Server = Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790] (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.HOME-1YQ0Z7F1LV>NBTSTAT -n Server Local Area Connection: Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.100] Scope Id: [] No names in cache C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.HOME-1YQ0Z7F1LV>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HOMESERVER Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : home.energy Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home.energy Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ether net Controller #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-FC-E3-9B-07 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.HOME-1YQ0Z7F1LV>

03-28-2008, 07:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Re: IP vs Server Name What does the IPCONFIG from a working computer look like? __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

03-29-2008, 11:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
crystalv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 OS: XP	Re: IP vs Server Name Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\sherryg>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sherryspc Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : home.energy Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home.energy Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth ernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-66-2F-58-ED Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, March 28, 2008 9:09:16 AM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:09:16 AM C:\Documents and Settings\sherryg>

03-29-2008, 01:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Re: IP vs Server Name How does it work booted in safe mode with networking? Sure looks like it should work. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

03-31-2008, 05:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
crystalv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 OS: XP	Re: IP vs Server Name Ah, that is going to be difficult to do as I am doing most of this support via Log-Me-In.

03-31-2008, 06:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Re: IP vs Server Name Some problems can't always be resolved from a remote location. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

04-01-2008, 07:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
crystalv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 OS: XP	Re: IP vs Server Name The pc that can't access by name and the other pc's give the same thing when ipcfg in safe mode.

04-01-2008, 07:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Re: IP vs Server Name Check your Services are Started on all PCs: Computer Browser DHCP Client DNS Client Network Connections Network Location Awareness Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Server TCP/IP Netbios helper Workstation Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic (or perhaps manual). __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

04-05-2008, 07:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
crystalv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 OS: XP	Re: IP vs Server Name Yes, all of those services are started.

04-05-2008, 09:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Re: IP vs Server Name Well, that's odd to say the least! I see one difference, and maybe it's the reason this is happening. Note that the DNS Suffix Search List is different for that machine than the server or the working machine. See if this page helps you sort that out: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/275553 __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

04-21-2008, 06:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
crystalv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 OS: XP	Re: IP vs Server Name Well, ended up just completely formatting and now it works. Thanks for the ideas!

04-21-2008, 07:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Re: IP vs Server Name Well, that's the extreme solution, but at least it's fixed. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience