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Old 01-08-2008, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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[SOLVED] Can't get XP machine to network

Just added a wirless router and two Vista machines to my XP machine. The XP is wired and the two Vista are wireless. Internet connects fine on all machines. Vista machines can see each other and share files.

View Full Map in Network and Sharing Center on the Vista machines can see the XP machine but cannot access it - the curser over is a pointer not a hand.

I can ping all machines from the others.

I have added the LLTD patch to the XP machine.

Also had to change the HKEY_Local_Machine\System...\Tcpip\Parameters IPEnableRouter to 1. Have checked all services on XP machine and it looks like all are started that need to be.

Obviously, all machines have the same workgroup name set.

The router can see all machines too. Linksys has a EasyLink Advisor and it show all machines and the IP addresses.

Have spent several days scanning the net trying to figure this out but can't get it working. The Vista machines do not see the XP machine and the XP machine shows NOTHING in Network Neighborhood - not even itself.

I have turned all firewalls off.

I am sharing a printer and C drive on the XP. Sharing C drive on Vista.

I use the adminstrator account on the XP but have tried setting up an account that matches the account on the Vista and it didn't work. When I access one of the Vista machines from the other on a different account, it prompts me for the user and password.

Discovery is on.

Also, file sharing on the Vista machines work fine. I can share from Vista to Vista.

Here are some other things I have tried & noticed:

NetBios over TCPIP is enabled but when I type ipconfig /all it shows as disabled. This is also the case on the Vista machines.

Also, when I look at View Full Map in Network and Sharing Center on the Vista machines, they show a IPv6 address but the Router and the XP machine does not. According to LinkSys tech support, this does not matter.

I've got the latest firmware version for the router.

On the xp machine:

I can ping the Vista machines.
I can Start/Run \\xpcomputername.
I cannot Start/Run \\xp ipaddress. Error: The network location cannot be reached.
I cannot Start/Run \\vistacomputername. Same error.
I cannot Start/Run \\vista ipaddress. Same error.

On the Vista machines:

I can ping the XP machine.
I can Start/Run \\vistamachine.
I can Start/Run \\visa ipaddress.
I cannot Start\Run \\xpmachine. Error: Windows cannot access \\xpmachine
I cannot Start\Run \\xp ipaddress. Same error.


Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!
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Re: Can't get XP machine to network

On the XP machine, check this.

Check your Services are Started on all PCs:
  • Computer Browser
  • DHCP Client
  • DNS Client
  • Network Connections
  • Network Location Awareness
  • Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
  • Server
  • TCP/IP Netbios helper
  • Workstation

Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.

All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic (or perhaps manual).





Let's see this from one of the Vista machines and the XP machine.

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt:

Type the following two commands:

nbtstat -n

ipconfig /all

Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
Paste the results in a message here.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.
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Re: Can't get XP machine to network

Looks like this may be it.

First, yes, all the services are started.

This is from the XP machine:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nbtstat -n
NetBT is not bound to any devices
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PuetzDesktop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-07-E9-BB-E2-58
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::207:e9ff:febb:e258%4
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.82.4.8
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:50:41 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 2:50:41
PM

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-64
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.100%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>


I have Enable NetBios over TCP/IP selected in Netword Properties, but it doesn't look like it is working.

What next?
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Old 01-08-2008, 05:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Can't get XP machine to network

Here is from the Vista machine:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Chris>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.102] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
PUETZLAPTOP <00> UNIQUE Registered
PUETZ <00> GROUP Registered
PUETZ <1E> GROUP Registered
PUETZLAPTOP <20> UNIQUE Registered
PUETZ <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

C:\Users\Chris>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PuetzLaptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Con
nection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1C-BF-29-02-F5
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::2d50:7a8a:a202:7%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 07, 2008 7:59:55 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:05:17 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 184556735
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.82.4.8
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast Ethern
et NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-38-4B-A4-BB
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{31DACFDD-8FC3-4A3D-BBCB-319A60DA3
57C}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{B1854EAF-EADC-4A19-81BE-E90A31DD2
C1A}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.102%12(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.82.4.8
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e50:47b:27b:3f57:fe99(Prefer
red)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::47b:27b:3f57:fe99%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

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Re: Can't get XP machine to network

I just tried:

netsh int ip reset reset.log
netsh winsock reset catalog

and rebooted but am still getting the same thing when I run nbtstat -n
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Select Start > Settings > Network Connections.
  • Double-click the Connection icon of the connection you wish to modify to open the Local Area Connection Status window.
  • Click the Properties button to open the Local Area Connection Properties window.
  • Click to highlight Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
  • Click the Properties button to open the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Properties window.
  • Click the Advanced button.
  • Click the WINS tab.
  • Make sure that Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is selected.
  • Click OK.
  • Click OK to return to the Local Area Connection Properties window.
  • Click OK to return to the Network Connections window.





Select Start > Settings > Network Connections.
  • Double-click the Connection icon of the connection you wish to modify to open the Local Area Connection Status window.
  • Click the Properties button to open the Local Area Connection Properties window.
  • Click the Advanced tab.
  • Make sure that Internet Connection Sharing is not checked.
  • Click OK to return to the Network Connections window.




In the properties of the Local Area Connection, please list all of the items that appear in the scrolling window labeled: This connections uses the following items.





After that, post another IPCONFIG /ALL log.
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Yes, NetBios over TCP/IP is selected.

There is not a Internet Connection Sharing on the Advanced tab. Only Windows Firelwall Setting button.

Here are the properties checked:
Client for Microsoft Networks
Trend Micro Common Firewall Driver
QoS Packet Scheduler
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft TCP/IP version 6
Link-Layer Topology Discovery Responder
Interent Protocal (TCP/IP)

Listed but not checked are:
NWLink NetBIOS
NWLink IPX/SPS/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocal
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PuetzDesktop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-07-E9-BB-E2-58
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.82.4.8
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 819
AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 819 A
M

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-07-E9-BB-E2-58
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::207:e9ff:febb:e258%6
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::207:e9ff:febb:e258%4
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.82.4.8
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
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Re: Can't get XP machine to network

Changes that may help to increase the compatibility of Vista with older networking devices:



Disable the IP Helper service:

1. Hold the Windows key and type R, enter "services.msc" (without the quotes) and press Enter
2. Scroll down to the IP Helper service, right click on it and select Properties
3. In the dropdown box that says "Automatic" or "Manual", set it to Disabled and then click on "Apply"
4. Then click on "Stop" to stop the service from running in the current session
5. Click OK to exit the dialog



Disable IPv6:

1. Hold the Windows key and type R, enter "ncpa.cpl" (without the quotes) and press Enter
2. Right click on each network connection and select "Properties"
3. Remove the checkmark from the box next to "Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6)
4. Click OK to exit the dialog

NOTE: You should do this for each network connection.



Disable the DHCP Broadcast Flag:

Link: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/928233
  1. Hold the Windows key and type R, enter regedit and press Enter.
  2. Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
  3. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{GUID}
  4. In this registry path, click the (GUID) subkey to be updated.
  5. If the key DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag does not exist, use the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD (32-bit) Value. In the New Value #1 box, type DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag, and then press ENTER. If the key exists, skip this step.
  6. Right-click DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag, and then click Modify.
  7. In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
  8. Close Registry Editor.
NOTE: You should do this for each and every GUID subkey.




The only program I'm aware of that currently relies on IPv6 is the new Windows Meeting Space. The first 2 changes will cause that program not to work - but will leave all of your normal (IPv4) connections unaffected. If it causes problems that you can't overcome, simply revert back to the original settings.
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Re: Can't get XP machine to network

I did the above but I just Disabled the DHCP Broadcast Flag for the GUID that are for the network connections used.

Now the View Full Map in Network and Sharing Center on the Vista machines just show the IPv4 address on the Vista. Like before, it only showed a IPv4 address for the XP machine. Also, like before, I can see the XP machine but cannot access it - the curser over is a pointer not a hand.

Still get:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nbtstat -n
NetBT is not bound to any devices
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Re: Can't get XP machine to network

What about unintalling the NIC from the Device Manager and then rebooting to reintall? Help or hurt?
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Re: Can't get XP machine to network

OK. I have sure learned a lot about networking though this entire ordeal.

I hope this will help someone else!!!

I uninstalled all my Network Adapters from the Device Manager and Rebooted. That fixed my problem!!!!!

Here is a summary. I don't know if all steps are needed, but this worked for me.

On the wired XP:
1. Added the LLTD patch.
2. File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks installed. Most likely this is already done.
3. Microsoft TCP/IP version 6 installed.

On the wireless Vista:
1. Network Discovery, File Sharing, and Public folder Sharing is ON.
2. Network set to Private.

On all computers:
1. Worgroup the same.

When I ran nbtstat -n, I got the error:
NetBT is not bound to any devices

I uninstalled all my Network Adapters from the Device Manager and Rebooted.

I am very happy to have a working network!!! Praise the Lord!!!

Thanks for you input on this problem!
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