xp/vista networking

[cyybborg]

this is somewhat odd and I have read the other posts on networking and feel that overall i understand the setup but for some reason still having problems so sorry if asking redundant stuff.

just added to actiontec m1000 adsl/netgear wifi router with fujitsu lifebook win xp pro another fujitsu laptop but vista business.

xp system is ethernet connection and vista is wireless


originally network was working ok. everything from xp system was viewable and shareable on vista sys but not reverse as had not set any file sharing settings on vista sys.(also strange because read that if no file sharing settings on vista computers can't see each other)

now, cannot see xp(or vista) system on network. have autodetect on and workgroup is the same.

have been tinkering with router to accommodate emule but no luck. i don't know if this has had any affect. currently turned both windows firewalls off to check that front but no change. maybe preinstalled symantec internet security is causing problems but i think it has been on since the beginning, so what caused the change? if i could see the xp sys from vista sys why now nothing? very strange. have read many of the other posts on networking problems. makes me want to downgrade my vista system to xp, which i have cds to do.

thanks for assistance

[cyybborg]

also, another change was to add a few devices to my bluetooth manager, my cellphone and mouse. don't think this is significant though

[johnwill]

On each of the systems, let's see this.


Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt:

Type the following two commands:

nbtstat -n

ipconfig /all

Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
Paste the results in a message here.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.

[cyybborg]

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\johnd>nbstat -n
'nbstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\johnd>nbstat-n
'nbstat-n' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\johnd>nbtstat-n
'nbtstat-n' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\johnd>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection 2:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.3] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
ALLBUSINESS <00> UNIQUE Registered
CASADINAPOLI <00> GROUP Registered
CASADINAPOLI <1E> GROUP Registered
ALLBUSINESS <20> UNIQUE Registered
CASADINAPOLI <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

C:\Users\johnd>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : allbusiness
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Personal Area Network
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-7A-B1-68-5C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5006EXS Wireless Network Adapte
r
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-9E-6B-EF-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::517b:8c86:2ad7:abc3%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:30:37 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 17, 2007 8:45:16 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 151002014
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ether
net Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-17-42-87-13-76
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{D8121593-FCF8-4A6F-9F50-2B25F36CC
CC0}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{D4C4B83A-88E6-4995-81C0-3EF82178D
AA2}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.3%11(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{2A3E1096-A7A9-4EB9-8050-A0CDEDC44
FDB}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e50:28d1:24e1:3f57:fefc(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::28d1:24e1:3f57:fefc%14(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Users\johnd>

[cyybborg]

the first results are with the xp system off/not connected to network and this paste is with xp turned on/connected to network



Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\johnd>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection 2:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.3] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
ALLBUSINESS <00> UNIQUE Registered
CASADINAPOLI <00> GROUP Registered
CASADINAPOLI <1E> GROUP Registered
ALLBUSINESS <20> UNIQUE Registered
CASADINAPOLI <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

C:\Users\johnd>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : allbusiness
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Personal Area Network
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-7A-B1-68-5C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5006EXS Wireless Network Adapte
r
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-9E-6B-EF-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::517b:8c86:2ad7:abc3%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:30:37 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 17, 2007 8:45:15 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 151002014
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ether
net Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-17-42-87-13-76
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{D8121593-FCF8-4A6F-9F50-2B25F36CC
CC0}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{D4C4B83A-88E6-4995-81C0-3EF82178D
AA2}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.3%11(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{2A3E1096-A7A9-4EB9-8050-A0CDEDC44
FDB}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e50:28d1:24e1:3f57:fefc(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::28d1:24e1:3f57:fefc%14(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Users\johnd>

[cyybborg]

first two posts as explained are from vista system this post is from the xp system, both systems connected to the network, xp via ethernet vista via wireless

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.2] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
MEDIA <00> UNIQUE Registered
CASADINAPOLI <00> GROUP Registered
MEDIA <20> UNIQUE Registered
CASADINAPOLI <1E> GROUP Registered
CASADINAPOLI <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MEDIA
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
rnet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-00-7E-87-A0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:50:51 A
M
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 17, 2007 11:50:48 A
M

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

[johnwill]

Are the last two with both machines connected to the router and booted at the same time?

[cyybborg]

yes, both machines are booted and both can see the internet

[johnwill]

Well, both of them think they're the master browser. This happens when they can't see each other on the network.

Can you ping both ways by name?

[cyybborg]

ping from vista system (192.168.1.3) to xp system (192.168.1.2) is good
pring from xp to vista is "request timed out"

[johnwill]

Try disabling the firewall on the Vista machine and see if that helps. If so, we'll figure out how to configure the firewall properly.

[cyybborg]

both firewalls are turned off in this scenario, which also leads to my next set of discussions about what the best setup for defense are. my router has a firewall but i don't know what the firewalls on the machines should look like.

[johnwill]

Well, mine look gone! I use the router's firewall, and a current AV and spyware scanner. If you aren't going to a lot of suspect sites, this will normally do it. Some folks like a software firewall monitoring the outgoing connections, I've never found it necessary.

[cyybborg]

yes, but i still haven't resolved the network issue...

[johnwill]

Well, failure to ping is almost always a firewall issue. I'd find the firewall component that's blocking the pings and disable it.