Networking between XP and Vista

[Sin3169]

Okay here is the problem.

I have a network set up of 3 computers.. my laptop (wireless, XP Media Center Edition), my gaming computer (wired, XP Professional) and my media computer (Wired, Vista Home Premium) all routed through a linksys router.

Right so my two XP computers can see each other fine, but my XP computers cannot see my Vista computer.. BUT the vista computer can see my two XP computers after a short while (for some reason seems to take awhile for it to pick it up.. sometimes it doesnt pick them up at all)

So I am completely baffled by this. .I am sure there is something obvious I am overlooking.

Though I do have another small problem

My two wireless (Playstation 3 and Laptop) seem to get IP conflict errors.. and whenever I turn on my PS3, it knocks my laptops wireless out for a few seconds.. my X-Box 360 (wired), wont even connect at all if anything else is turned on (laptop, PS3, gaming computer, media computer)..

So anyway I can fix these two problems? if you need anymore info just let me know.

[terbolee]

1. Check Linksys DHCP service, make sure that it's enabled
2. Configure all your devices, including PS3 & XBOX to be given IP addresses, not static
3. Change the SSID setting on your Linksys...may still be factory default of "Linksys"
4. Change WORKGROUP settings for all your devices to the new Linksys SSID setting

[Sin3169]

Well one minor little problem with that.. to change those settings you need to be able to get into the settings of your router.. does ANYONE know the default password for linksys routers? I never changed it... it automatically asigns one I believe

[Sin3169]

username too.. im lookin at the login for the router webpage right now.

[Sin3169]

Okay finally got into the router settings, DHCP is set on auto config.. and it is also listed under enabled, though how do you config devices (computers) to be given IP address and not have a static one?

[Sin3169]

I still cant seem to get into the vista computer from the XP computers, could it be that I have my permissions set wrong?

[johnwill]

What are the exact symptoms? Can you PING the vista computer by name?

[Sin3169]

Unfortunately I do not know how to ping computers.. I am very newbie-ish at networking.

Though when I added them all to the same work group "Media Computer" appeared on my laptop and gaming computer.. cept it wont let me connect, it is saying I dont have permission and to contact my network administrator.

[Sin3169]

Oh yeah and when I go to network places, on my XP computers.. the files that I am sharing on my media computer, do not show up at all.. in fact nothing shows up from the media computer.. my XP computers only 'see' each other

[johnwill]

Start, Run, CMD

PING <computer name>

What is the result?



On each of the computers, please do this.

Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt:

Type the following commands: (exactly as stated, note the space between the name and parameter)

nbtstat -n
ipconfig /all

Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
Paste the results in a message here.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.

[Sin3169]

(this is for the laptop.. running it on the other two machines now)

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>Ping Laptop

Pinging Laptop [192.168.1.100] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.100:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-D4-18-FC-16

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5005G Wireless Network Ada
pter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-CF-4F-FF-E8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.82.4.8
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:05:33
AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:05:
33 AM

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>

[johnwill]

Failure to ping is almost always a firewall issue. Try disabling the laptop firewall(s) and see if you have better success.

Also, you missed one of the commands I asked you to run previously, the nbtstat -n

[Sin3169]

(for the laptop..sorry about that)

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.100] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
LAPTOP <00> UNIQUE Registered
LINKSYS <00> GROUP Registered
LAPTOP <20> UNIQUE Registered
LINKSYS <1E> GROUP Registered
LINKSYS <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>

[Sin3169]

(for the media computer)

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Snake>Ping Media-Computer

Pinging Media-Computer [fe80::85e8:7aed:4731:10b4%8] from fe80::85e8:7aed:4731:1
0b4%8 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from fe80::85e8:7aed:4731:10b4%8: time<1ms
Reply from fe80::85e8:7aed:4731:10b4%8: time<1ms
Reply from fe80::85e8:7aed:4731:10b4%8: time<1ms
Reply from fe80::85e8:7aed:4731:10b4%8: time<1ms

Ping statistics for fe80::85e8:7aed:4731:10b4%8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Users\Snake>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media-Computer
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101 Family PCI-E Fast Etherne
t NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-21-CF-15-D4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::85e8:7aed:4731:10b4%8(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 201333025
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\Users\Snake>nbstat -n
'nbstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\Snake>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [169.254.16.180] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
MEDIA-COMPUTER <00> UNIQUE Registering

C:\Users\Snake>

[Sin3169]

(aaaand the gaming computer)

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>Ping Gaming-Computer

Pinging Gaming-Computer [192.168.1.103] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.103:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gaming-Computer
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-92-81-21-30
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.103
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:38:52
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:38:5
2 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>nbtstat -n

Local Area Connection 3:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.103] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
GAMING-COMPUTER<00> UNIQUE Registered
LINKSYS <00> GROUP Registered
GAMING-COMPUTER<20> UNIQUE Registered
LINKSYS <1E> GROUP Registered
LINKSYS <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

C:\Documents and Settings\Snake>

[Sin3169]

I noticed that the firewall blocked my ping attempts on both laptop and gaming computer (both the XP boxes) but not on the vista media computer.. thing is I have the same firewall on all three of them (Windows Live OneCare) ... so what is the problem? ive tried turning all the firewalls off before.. but that didnt seem to make the XP computers pick up the vista one

[Sin3169]

I disabled my firewalls on the two XP boxes and got ping replies this time around, but now I just noticed NONE of my computers are seeing each other at all.. ugh.

[Sin3169]

So no one knows how I should set up my Windows Live OneCare firewalls so they allow networking? or is that not the problem?