Xp networking problem

spilla · 10-16-2006, 08:21 AM

hey everyone, first time poster here. :)
My problem is that one of my Xp computers refuses to see any other computers on the network through "My Network Places", yet it can connect to all the others if I enter the IP in IE/Firefox.

Heres my computers:
Henry- iMac running OS X 10.3 (Wireless)
Herbert- iBook running OS X 10.4 (Wireless)
Basil- Win2k desktop (Wired)
Hamilton- WinXP Home laptop (Wireless)
Connor- WinXP Pro desktop (Wired) (The problem one)

Weird thing is, that Basil for example can see all others except for Connor. The same goes for henry, herbert and hamilton. But Connor can only see itself in the "Network Places" area. All computers are going through a Linksys WRT54GS wired & 802.11g router. All on the same subnet and using the same DNS server. So what's going on? I've shutdown all the computers, and switched them on one by one, and made a new workgroup and renamed all the computers. Please help, it's really quite frustrating. :(

ricer333 · 10-16-2006, 09:40 AM

Can Connor ping all the other computers?

to do this: at a command prompt type: ping <address of computer>

Then if that works, try it in the reverse, having the other computers Ping Connor. Post back with the results.

**johnwill** · 10-16-2006, 04:07 PM

This sounds like the classic network browsing issue. What do you see in the event log for the problem computer and one of the "working" ones relating to networking?

spilla · 10-16-2006, 11:35 PM

Connor can ping any other computer, and all the others can ping Connor.

Where do I find the event log?

The weird thing is, now Hamilton can see Connor in network places, but Connor can only still see itself.

**johnwill** · 10-17-2006, 03:21 PM

Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer, and check the System event log.

spilla · 10-18-2006, 01:42 AM

Ok, I couldn't really find anything to do with networking, but the majority of the entries in the "System" section were to do with:

Quote:

The Pml Driver HPZ12 service was successfully sent a start contr

Does that have something to do with my HP printer?

**johnwill** · 10-18-2006, 12:45 PM

Sounds like the printer to me.

spilla · 10-19-2006, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwill

Sounds like the printer to me.

So is that screwing up the network? And should I try and get a new driver for the printer?

**johnwill** · 10-19-2006, 02:40 PM

I don't know that the printer is affecting things, just that that message is from the printer for some reason.

Have you tried pinging both ways by name and IP address? Let's see if that works first.

spilla · 10-27-2006, 02:44 AM

I can ping by IP address both ways, but how do I ping it's name?

**johnwill** · 10-27-2006, 08:20 AM

PING <computer name>

spilla · 10-31-2006, 01:32 AM

ok, pinging the name doesn't work either way, but the IP addresses do.

**johnwill** · 10-31-2006, 02:07 PM

OK, it's a name resolution issue.

Checklist for networking Windows Machines with TCP/IP
-----------------------------------------------------
- PCs which are not XP must have TCP/IP installed.
- Each PC must have a unique computer name.
- Each PC must have a network share defined.
- ALL NICS must be on the same subnet (e.g. IP 192.168.0.* subnet mask 255.255.255.0).
- XP PCs must have Netbios over TCP/IP enabled (only essential for XP to talk to W9X PCs).
- MS Client and file & printer sharing must be enabled on each machine.
- All NICs must have their node type = anything except p-node (peer to peer, or point-point).
* To check, open a command prompt and type IPCONFIG /ALL.
- XP's ICF firewall is permanently disabled. (Only necessary for pre XP SP2).
- All 3rd party firewalls are disabled, uninstalled and deleted (until connection is working).
- PCs have the same workgroup (helps, but not essential for XP/2K, necessary for 9X/ME).

Allow 15 mins after rebooting a PC for that PC to appear in the workgroup, or
for it to see all other PCs. Or you can search for the PC by its computer name.

Additional things to check if you still have problems:
-----------------------------------------------------
- Check your Services are Started on all PCs: Workstation, Server, TCP/IP Netbios helper, Computer Browser.
- XP gives access to its shares via the Net Guest Account. (Note, not the same as the local guest account in user accounts which should be off). Net Guest Account is enabled by default in XP, but to check it, open a command prompt and type: NET USER GUEST
Should return a line with 'Account active yes'.

Check XP Security policies:
--------------------------
- Access this computer from the network: add guest
- Deny logon locally: remove guest
- Network access:Sharing and security model... -> Guest only
- Deny access to this computer from the network-> check Guest is not here.

spilla · 11-11-2006, 09:15 PM

Sorry johnwill, but those above steps don't seem to fix it. :(

The only parts I haven't tried are the Xp security policies. How do I access those?

10-16-2006, 08:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
spilla Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16 OS: XP	Xp networking problem hey everyone, first time poster here. :) My problem is that one of my Xp computers refuses to see any other computers on the network through "My Network Places", yet it can connect to all the others if I enter the IP in IE/Firefox. Heres my computers: Henry- iMac running OS X 10.3 (Wireless) Herbert- iBook running OS X 10.4 (Wireless) Basil- Win2k desktop (Wired) Hamilton- WinXP Home laptop (Wireless) Connor- WinXP Pro desktop (Wired) (The problem one) Weird thing is, that Basil for example can see all others except for Connor. The same goes for henry, herbert and hamilton. But Connor can only see itself in the "Network Places" area. All computers are going through a Linksys WRT54GS wired & 802.11g router. All on the same subnet and using the same DNS server. So what's going on? I've shutdown all the computers, and switched them on one by one, and made a new workgroup and renamed all the computers. Please help, it's really quite frustrating. :(

10-16-2006, 09:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
ricer333 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 302 OS: Vista (on Laptop) WinXP Pro SP3 (on Desktop)	Ping Tests Can Connor ping all the other computers? to do this: at a command prompt type: ping <address of computer> Then if that works, try it in the reverse, having the other computers Ping Connor. Post back with the results. __________________ AMD X2 5000+ Black w/ XFX GeForce 8200 MoBo 4GB OCZ DDR2 RAM 3/4 of a TB of data storage between 2 HDD's (no RAID)

10-16-2006, 04:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,623 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	This sounds like the classic network browsing issue. What do you see in the event log for the problem computer and one of the "working" ones relating to networking? __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

10-17-2006, 03:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,623 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer, and check the System event log. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

10-18-2006, 12:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,623 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Sounds like the printer to me. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

10-16-2006, 11:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
spilla Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16 OS: XP	Connor can ping any other computer, and all the others can ping Connor. Where do I find the event log? The weird thing is, now Hamilton can see Connor in network places, but Connor can only still see itself.

10-19-2006, 02:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,623 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	I don't know that the printer is affecting things, just that that message is from the printer for some reason. Have you tried pinging both ways by name and IP address? Let's see if that works first. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

10-27-2006, 02:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
spilla Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16 OS: XP	I can ping by IP address both ways, but how do I ping it's name?

10-27-2006, 08:20 AM	#11 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,623 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	PING <computer name> __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

10-31-2006, 01:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
spilla Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16 OS: XP	ok, pinging the name doesn't work either way, but the IP addresses do.

10-31-2006, 02:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,623 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	OK, it's a name resolution issue. Checklist for networking Windows Machines with TCP/IP ----------------------------------------------------- - PCs which are not XP must have TCP/IP installed. - Each PC must have a unique computer name. - Each PC must have a network share defined. - ALL NICS must be on the same subnet (e.g. IP 192.168.0.* subnet mask 255.255.255.0). - XP PCs must have Netbios over TCP/IP enabled (only essential for XP to talk to W9X PCs). - MS Client and file & printer sharing must be enabled on each machine. - All NICs must have their node type = anything except p-node (peer to peer, or point-point). * To check, open a command prompt and type IPCONFIG /ALL. - XP's ICF firewall is permanently disabled. (Only necessary for pre XP SP2). - All 3rd party firewalls are disabled, uninstalled and deleted (until connection is working). - PCs have the same workgroup (helps, but not essential for XP/2K, necessary for 9X/ME). Allow 15 mins after rebooting a PC for that PC to appear in the workgroup, or for it to see all other PCs. Or you can search for the PC by its computer name. Additional things to check if you still have problems: ----------------------------------------------------- - Check your Services are Started on all PCs: Workstation, Server, TCP/IP Netbios helper, Computer Browser. - XP gives access to its shares via the Net Guest Account. (Note, not the same as the local guest account in user accounts which should be off). Net Guest Account is enabled by default in XP, but to check it, open a command prompt and type: NET USER GUEST Should return a line with 'Account active yes'. Check XP Security policies: -------------------------- - Access this computer from the network: add guest - Deny logon locally: remove guest - Network access:Sharing and security model... -> Guest only - Deny access to this computer from the network-> check Guest is not here. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

11-11-2006, 09:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
spilla Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16 OS: XP	Sorry johnwill, but those above steps don't seem to fix it. :( The only parts I haven't tried are the Xp security policies. How do I access those?