[SOLVED] router with no computer?

Gamingfan · 01-26-2009, 03:47 PM

I had a question for you guys, Im not real knowledgable about this kind of stuff...

I have comcast cable, Ive been wanting to make it wireless, but i have my Modem next to my ps3 and 360, and i dont have a computer near by, now i want to hook up a router to the internet so that way other people in my house can use the internet also...

so essentially my question is, can i have a router hooked up to my cable modem without a computer also being hooked up to the router? ive gotten mixed answers and would like some clarification

I do have a computer in my home, its just far away, and i dont want to buy the wireless internet adapter for my 360 and would prefer to keep a wired connection to the 360 and ps3

any help is greatly appreciated, or if you have suggestions

the other question i have is should i get the wireless modem that comcast can provide? or should i get my own router?

and dont say "move your computer closer" cause thats not possible with my setup

**tosh9i** · 01-26-2009, 03:50 PM

a router doesn't have to be hooked up to a computer to work, so putting it next to your 360 should be fine.

Gamingfan · 01-26-2009, 04:36 PM

ok, but it wont be secure right?

and should i buy my own or rent the one from comcast you think?

thanks for responding

**tosh9i** · 01-26-2009, 04:45 PM

Secure?...having a computer connected doesn't make it any more or less secure. After you hook up your router, go to the router's configuration screen and set some passwords and some encryption.

Buy your own, eventually, it'll be cheaper that way.

**tosh9i** · 01-26-2009, 04:45 PM

This is basically the most successful and popular router available:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124190

If you do get this router you might want to upgrade it's firmware to DD-WRT:

http://lifehacker.com/software/route...ter-178132.php

Gamingfan · 01-26-2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tosh9i

Secure?...having a computer connected doesn't make it any more or less secure. After you hook up your router, go to the router's configuration screen and set some passwords and some encryption.

Buy your own, eventually, it'll be cheaper that way.

how am i going to get to the configuration screen with no computer hooked up? or do you mean go to a computer that is picking up the signal from the router?

any suggestions on the router i should get without spending boat loads of dough would be great

does anybody know how i would set it up? do i just run a ethernet cable from the modem to the router? then from the router and have a wired connection to the xbox?

Gamingfan · 01-26-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tosh9i

This is basically the most successful and popular router available:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124190

If you do get this router you might want to upgrade it's firmware to DD-WRT:

http://lifehacker.com/software/route...ter-178132.php

I wish i knew somebody that could do all that stuff for me, its like your speaking chinese lol, how do i upgrade its firmware?

**tosh9i** · 01-27-2009, 02:06 AM

How much were you expecting to pay?

How much does Comcast charge to rent it?

Gamingfan · 01-27-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tosh9i

How much were you expecting to pay?

How much does Comcast charge to rent it?

comcast will charge me an additional 8 dollars to rent it, then 150 to setup a home network, i think i can figure out how to do it via the internet and instructions, oh and i also will most likely have to bump up the speed to to the max, which is an additional 18 a month, so essntially i could save 8/month dollars by buying my own

I pay 140 dollars/month for TV and Internet..its so expensive!!

I think im just going to buy the router you suggested above, its cheap and i think my friend has the same one

**tosh9i** · 01-27-2009, 12:22 PM

I don't suppose you subscribe to T-Mobile, do you? Because if you do, you could get that router for $20.

**johnwill** · 01-27-2009, 01:05 PM

You can buy a perfectly serviceable router for $20-30.

**tosh9i** · 01-27-2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwill

You can buy a perfectly serviceable router for $20-30.

That's true, but you know what they say, "you get what you pay for."

Last year, when my 15 year old standard tv broke down, I had an option of getting a cheap Olivia 26 inch HDTV for $399 or Sony Bravia 26 inch HDTV for $650. If I got the Olivia one, it'd probably break down within 3-4 years or a pixel would burn out. So I decided to go with the higher quality Sony one. It'll definitely last longer with more features.

**simpswr** · 01-27-2009, 01:51 PM

This is a good router at a good price . . with the code EMCABCHAE it is $35

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...L2C-_-33122016

Once you get it, come back and ask nicely and JW will tell you how to configure it to work with your cable router.

See this for educational purposes:

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/net.asp

Gamingfan · 01-27-2009, 03:48 PM

thanks for the tips guys, you have been a ton of help so far!

oh dont worry i will come back and ask for help on how to configure also!! :)

Gamingfan · 01-27-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tosh9i

I don't suppose you subscribe to T-Mobile, do you? Because if you do, you could get that router for $20.

no i dont have t-mobile, i have verizon

which router should i get guys? the first one suggested in this thread? the linksys one, or should i get the netgear one that is 35

im personally thinking this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124190

mainly because of reviews, and how people said that there gaming experience online got better after getting a firmware update, the netgear one seems kinda cheap

**tosh9i** · 01-27-2009, 04:07 PM

I recommend the WRT54GL, but at the least, wait until they offer free shipping, which they usually do.

**simpswr** · 01-27-2009, 04:11 PM

, , your call . .

Gamingfan · 01-27-2009, 07:10 PM

well im not paying for it, so i dont really care about the price or anything, i mean nothing too expensive

Gamingfan · 02-02-2009, 12:03 PM

thanks for all your help guys, i got everything to work perfect so far

I setup all the settings for the router on my ps3 web browser, I had to connect the router to the computer first and copied the serial mac address or something like that, then i connected it to my ps3 and went through all the settings, setup the wep key etc

it was a little easier than i thought it would be

**simpswr** · 02-02-2009, 12:28 PM

Well done!!!

You can mark this thread as solved by clicking on the Thread Tools link in your first post . .

01-26-2009, 03:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gamingfan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18 OS: none	[SOLVED] router with no computer? I had a question for you guys, Im not real knowledgable about this kind of stuff... I have comcast cable, Ive been wanting to make it wireless, but i have my Modem next to my ps3 and 360, and i dont have a computer near by, now i want to hook up a router to the internet so that way other people in my house can use the internet also... so essentially my question is, can i have a router hooked up to my cable modem without a computer also being hooked up to the router? ive gotten mixed answers and would like some clarification I do have a computer in my home, its just far away, and i dont want to buy the wireless internet adapter for my 360 and would prefer to keep a wired connection to the 360 and ps3 any help is greatly appreciated, or if you have suggestions the other question i have is should i get the wireless modem that comcast can provide? or should i get my own router? and dont say "move your computer closer" cause thats not possible with my setup

01-26-2009, 03:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
tosh9i TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,835 OS: Windows XP	Re: router with no computer? a router doesn't have to be hooked up to a computer to work, so putting it next to your 360 should be fine. __________________ Tosh

01-26-2009, 04:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gamingfan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18 OS: none	Re: router with no computer? ok, but it wont be secure right? and should i buy my own or rent the one from comcast you think? thanks for responding

01-26-2009, 04:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
tosh9i TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,835 OS: Windows XP	Re: router with no computer? Secure?...having a computer connected doesn't make it any more or less secure. After you hook up your router, go to the router's configuration screen and set some passwords and some encryption. Buy your own, eventually, it'll be cheaper that way. __________________ Tosh

01-26-2009, 04:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
tosh9i TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,835 OS: Windows XP	Re: router with no computer? This is basically the most successful and popular router available: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124190 If you do get this router you might want to upgrade it's firmware to DD-WRT: http://lifehacker.com/software/route...ter-178132.php __________________ Tosh Last edited by tosh9i; 01-26-2009 at 04:47 PM.

01-27-2009, 02:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
tosh9i TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,835 OS: Windows XP	Re: router with no computer? How much were you expecting to pay? How much does Comcast charge to rent it? __________________ Tosh

01-27-2009, 12:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
tosh9i TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,835 OS: Windows XP	Re: router with no computer? I don't suppose you subscribe to T-Mobile, do you? Because if you do, you could get that router for $20. __________________ Tosh

01-27-2009, 01:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
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01-27-2009, 01:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,253 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: router with no computer? This is a good router at a good price . . with the code *EMCABCHAE* it is $35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...L2C-_-33122016 Once you get it, come back and ask nicely and JW will tell you how to configure it to work with your cable router. See this for educational purposes: http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/net.asp __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

01-27-2009, 03:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
Gamingfan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18 OS: none	Re: router with no computer? thanks for the tips guys, you have been a ton of help so far! oh dont worry i will come back and ask for help on how to configure also!! :)

01-27-2009, 04:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
tosh9i TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,835 OS: Windows XP	Re: router with no computer? I recommend the WRT54GL, but at the least, wait until they offer free shipping, which they usually do. __________________ Tosh

01-27-2009, 04:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,253 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: router with no computer? , , your call . . __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

01-27-2009, 07:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
Gamingfan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18 OS: none	Re: router with no computer? well im not paying for it, so i dont really care about the price or anything, i mean nothing too expensive

02-02-2009, 12:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
Gamingfan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18 OS: none	Re: router with no computer? thanks for all your help guys, i got everything to work perfect so far I setup all the settings for the router on my ps3 web browser, I had to connect the router to the computer first and copied the serial mac address or something like that, then i connected it to my ps3 and went through all the settings, setup the wep key etc it was a little easier than i thought it would be

02-02-2009, 12:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,253 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: router with no computer? Well done!!! You can mark this thread as solved by clicking on the *Thread Tools* link in your first post . . __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?