Configuring a Dual Router network HELP!

soundcheckers · 10-12-2004, 08:41 AM

I'm trying to add ports to my home network and I'm running into all sorts of problems. Is there anyone out there that can definitively tell me how to do this?

Here's my setup:
Cable Modem into Netgear RT314 router. 4 ports work well.
I want to add a Xsense Palm Router (Has uplink port!)
I know I have to go out of one of the ports on the Rt314, into the uplink port of the Palm Router with a straight cable (or crossed cable if uplink switch is not "in") and then I'll have 3 extra ports that should work.

The IP address for the Rt314 is 192.168.0.1
The IP address for the Palm router is 192.168.1.1
I tried to set the ip address for the Palm router to 102.168.0.2
and it didn't work. I have no clue as to what to do next. I reset the Palm router to 192.168.1.1 and it works fine.

Any help out there? It'd greatly appreciated. Please specify what type of cables to use as well (straight/crossed)

HELP!!

**idtent** · 10-12-2004, 09:16 AM

Why use two routers?

What you need is a 10/100 switch. (Which is cheaper than a router in most cases)

The first router you have has built in dhcp and putting two routers on your network is just chaos unless you want two seperate networks.

The switch you could buy can have 4 to 24 ports or even more. You could by an unmanaged 4 port switch for about $20.00 and plug it into your one router. This will expand your network. If you need more, just buy another switch.

The cableing shouldn't matter with most newer switches, but if you plug one port in and it doesn't light, switch to a crossover.

soundcheckers · 10-12-2004, 10:15 AM

Thanks for the advice, but I was trying not to spend anymore cash on this, even if it was $20.

Couldn't I just configure the second router as a hub?

**idtent** · 10-12-2004, 12:14 PM

On the second router, you could change the internal IP address to the 192.168.0.2, don't plug anything in the wan port. Disable DHCP only on the second router. Use a crossover to plug 1 port into another port on the other router. This should work.

johnwill · 10-12-2004, 06:02 PM

Connecting two SOHO broadband routers together.

Configure the IP address of the secondary router to be in the same subnet as the primary router, but out of the range of the DHCP server in the primary router. For instance DHCP server addresses 192.168.0.2 through 192.168.0.100, I'd assign the secondary router 192.168.0.254 as it's IP address.

Disable the DHCP server in the secondary router.

Setup the wireless section just the way you would if it was the primary router.

Connect from the primary router's LAN port to one of the LAN ports on the secondary router. If there is no uplink port and neither of the routers have auto-sensing ports, use a cross-over cable. Leave the WAN port unconnected!

10-12-2004, 08:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
soundcheckers Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2 OS: Mac OSX, Win XP Pro	Configuring a Dual Router network HELP! I'm trying to add ports to my home network and I'm running into all sorts of problems. Is there anyone out there that can definitively tell me how to do this? Here's my setup: Cable Modem into Netgear RT314 router. 4 ports work well. I want to add a Xsense Palm Router (Has uplink port!) I know I have to go out of one of the ports on the Rt314, into the uplink port of the Palm Router with a straight cable (or crossed cable if uplink switch is not "in") and then I'll have 3 extra ports that should work. The IP address for the Rt314 is 192.168.0.1 The IP address for the Palm router is 192.168.1.1 I tried to set the ip address for the Palm router to 102.168.0.2 and it didn't work. I have no clue as to what to do next. I reset the Palm router to 192.168.1.1 and it works fine. Any help out there? It'd greatly appreciated. Please specify what type of cables to use as well (straight/crossed) HELP!!

10-12-2004, 09:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
idtent ID10T Circuit replacement Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wyoming Posts: 927 OS: XP Home, Pro, Win2k, 98 SE	Why use two routers? What you need is a 10/100 switch. (Which is cheaper than a router in most cases) The first router you have has built in dhcp and putting two routers on your network is just chaos unless you want two seperate networks. The switch you could buy can have 4 to 24 ports or even more. You could by an unmanaged 4 port switch for about $20.00 and plug it into your one router. This will expand your network. If you need more, just buy another switch. The cableing shouldn't matter with most newer switches, but if you plug one port in and it doesn't light, switch to a crossover. __________________ PICNIC (Problem In Chair Not In Computer) "Looks like you've been missing a lot of work lately. " "Well, I wouldn't exactly say I've been missing it, Bob. " Office Space Help TSF! Save the computers!

10-12-2004, 12:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
idtent ID10T Circuit replacement Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wyoming Posts: 927 OS: XP Home, Pro, Win2k, 98 SE	On the second router, you could change the internal IP address to the 192.168.0.2, don't plug anything in the wan port. Disable DHCP only on the second router. Use a crossover to plug 1 port into another port on the other router. This should work. __________________ PICNIC (Problem In Chair Not In Computer) "Looks like you've been missing a lot of work lately. " "Well, I wouldn't exactly say I've been missing it, Bob. " Office Space Help TSF! Save the computers!

10-12-2004, 06:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 31,468 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Connecting two SOHO broadband routers together. Configure the IP address of the secondary router to be in the same subnet as the primary router, but out of the range of the DHCP server in the primary router. For instance DHCP server addresses 192.168.0.2 through 192.168.0.100, I'd assign the secondary router 192.168.0.254 as it's IP address. Disable the DHCP server in the secondary router. Setup the wireless section just the way you would if it was the primary router. Connect from the primary router's LAN port to one of the LAN ports on the secondary router. If there is no uplink port and neither of the routers have auto-sensing ports, use a cross-over cable. Leave the WAN port unconnected! __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

10-12-2004, 10:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
soundcheckers Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2 OS: Mac OSX, Win XP Pro	Thanks for the advice, but I was trying not to spend anymore cash on this, even if it was $20. Couldn't I just configure the second router as a hub?