router disconnection

kenb12 · 11-22-2006, 09:21 AM

Is it safe to turn off router until needed.
If router is turned off, and DSL connection removed from socket. (I have the type of socket where the phone and DSL are seperate connections) is this the best way to do this without harmful effects such as my sync dropping.

**cjessee** · 11-22-2006, 12:48 PM

What are you wanting to accomplish by turning off the router?

**johnwill** · 11-22-2006, 03:53 PM

I leave my connection on 24/7, no reason that I can think of to turn it off.

kenb12 · 11-23-2006, 04:39 AM

I do not just switch off my computer, I also switch my computer off at the main socket. The computer can be off for days. Cannot see any point in having the router connected when not needed. My query, was to try and find out if, what I wanted to do, would be harmful to the sync or have any other negative effect. As an aside, I have noticed that although there can be a router download reading of 7616kbps prior to switching off, overnight (computer not in use)this changes, and the reading can be lowered down to 3712kbps.
Disconnect router, reconnect and the reading can go up to 7616.
Do not understand, why there should be an alteration when there is no active use of the internet during this period. If router is connected during this period then it appears some sort of assessment is being made maybe between the router and the exchange.

kenb12 · 11-24-2006, 09:39 AM

Possibly an answer cannot be definite. Suppose, the only way left is to 'try' and see the result. As said previously, did want to avoid losing sync and going into a possible 'retraining' period which is often spoken about, for say 'three days or ten days'. Ouch!!!!

**johnwill** · 11-24-2006, 11:51 AM

I've never seen that actually happen. I've turned off the modem for service and rewiring at plenty of clients, as well as mine. There is no issue getting reconnected unless something is broken.

kenb12 · 11-24-2006, 05:17 PM

Thanks for reply.
Cannot understand when computer is switched off and router is left connected that I find the router in the morning shows a downspeed of say 3712 from 7616.
Disconnect and then reconnect and the figure goes back up.
This suggests that some sort of assessment takes place during this time (when drop happens). (Repeating some of info already given in previous post).
Whether this 'up' and 'down' of the router makes any difference to my actual download speeds I don't know.

**johnwill** · 11-25-2006, 02:15 PM

I have no idea where that statistic comes from, so I can't really say what it means.

**cjessee** · 11-25-2006, 03:39 PM

It may be coincendental. I am not aware of a network that speeds up as the computer is connected, or reconnected. If this were the case, then you could plug in and unplug until you were at a commercial speed.

kenb12 · 11-26-2006, 10:22 AM

Having just bought the latest Speedtouch 546 Version 6 Modem, as I felt the others may not be the latest with 'Up to date' firmware.
In the download and upload it shows the figures as already given, namely these downloads speeds of 3712,3744,4032. Power down and the connection goes up to 7616.
This was exactly the same results when trying with the BT Voyager 205 and the Netgear 632. I presume there must be some degree of accuracy from trying all three modems.
I revert to my original question, switch everything off, possibly for several days, would this be detrimental to whatever the equipment in the exchange has decided is my download speed.

11-22-2006, 09:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
kenb12 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 65 OS: xp	router disconnection Is it safe to turn off router until needed. If router is turned off, and DSL connection removed from socket. (I have the type of socket where the phone and DSL are seperate connections) is this the best way to do this without harmful effects such as my sync dropping.

11-22-2006, 03:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,685 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	I leave my connection on 24/7, no reason that I can think of to turn it off. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

11-23-2006, 04:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
kenb12 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 65 OS: xp	router disconnection I do not just switch off my computer, I also switch my computer off at the main socket. The computer can be off for days. Cannot see any point in having the router connected when not needed. My query, was to try and find out if, what I wanted to do, would be harmful to the sync or have any other negative effect. As an aside, I have noticed that although there can be a router download reading of 7616kbps prior to switching off, overnight (computer not in use)this changes, and the reading can be lowered down to 3712kbps. Disconnect router, reconnect and the reading can go up to 7616. Do not understand, why there should be an alteration when there is no active use of the internet during this period. If router is connected during this period then it appears some sort of assessment is being made maybe between the router and the exchange.

11-24-2006, 09:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
kenb12 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 65 OS: xp	router disconnection Possibly an answer cannot be definite. Suppose, the only way left is to 'try' and see the result. As said previously, did want to avoid losing sync and going into a possible 'retraining' period which is often spoken about, for say 'three days or ten days'. Ouch!!!!

11-24-2006, 11:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,685 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	I've never seen that actually happen. I've turned off the modem for service and rewiring at plenty of clients, as well as mine. There is no issue getting reconnected unless something is broken. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

11-22-2006, 12:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
cjessee Uh oh. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 794 OS: Windows NT/2000/XP, Dictaphone, Windows 2003 Server	What are you wanting to accomplish by turning off the router?

11-24-2006, 05:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
kenb12 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 65 OS: xp	Thanks for reply. Cannot understand when computer is switched off and router is left connected that I find the router in the morning shows a downspeed of say 3712 from 7616. Disconnect and then reconnect and the figure goes back up. This suggests that some sort of assessment takes place during this time (when drop happens). (Repeating some of info already given in previous post). Whether this 'up' and 'down' of the router makes any difference to my actual download speeds I don't know.

11-25-2006, 02:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,685 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	I have no idea where that statistic comes from, so I can't really say what it means. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

11-25-2006, 03:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
cjessee Uh oh. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 794 OS: Windows NT/2000/XP, Dictaphone, Windows 2003 Server	It may be coincendental. I am not aware of a network that speeds up as the computer is connected, or reconnected. If this were the case, then you could plug in and unplug until you were at a commercial speed.

11-26-2006, 10:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
kenb12 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 65 OS: xp	Statistics from Routers Having just bought the latest Speedtouch 546 Version 6 Modem, as I felt the others may not be the latest with 'Up to date' firmware. In the download and upload it shows the figures as already given, namely these downloads speeds of 3712,3744,4032. Power down and the connection goes up to 7616. This was exactly the same results when trying with the BT Voyager 205 and the Netgear 632. I presume there must be some degree of accuracy from trying all three modems. I revert to my original question, switch everything off, possibly for several days, would this be detrimental to whatever the equipment in the exchange has decided is my download speed.