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Old 04-24-2008, 03:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Share a file between computers on the homenet

I have one machine on a home network called HOMENET with XP and the second and remaining PC wth Win2k.

I have an error which states that the file may be in use when no applications other than the OS are running.

Faile sharing right now goes only one way: from Machine Two called called Lon2biostar to Lon1machspeed. The naming convention is for the motherboards. the network is a simple switch arrangement whcih has worked fine until I installed what is a scratch drive for XP and making the
setupo from scratch.

I simply forgot what I did the last time through. I have a book for the Win2k machine.

I also followed the share routine to make lon2biostar drive J. under the
option for that.

The inability to transfer a file from lon1machspeed to lon2biostar remains.

I am stumped.

Can someone take me through the troubleshooting steps?

On lon1machspeed in My Network Places I can navigate to Lon2biostar
and open a shared folder. I cannot move anything into that shared folder but can transfer files out if it.

There is something I am missing but I don't know what.

The goal would be to make both the whole master drives accessible in both directions. I get hung up int his each time.
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

Sounds like a permissions issue.

Which is the machine you can't write files to, the 2K or XP machine?
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

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Sounds like a permissions issue.

Which is the machine you can't write files to, the 2K or XP machine?
I can get things from the XP machine but cannot transfer files to it even though one shared folder is visible.

I looked at the file specs using properties but couldn't find anything.

You should know that My Network Places does not reveal the other Homenet machine in properties. That's what is puzzling. I just want to get total access both ways.
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

Try configuring for simple sharing on each of the machines.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Try configuring for simple sharing on each of the machines.

Ok. Just saying it doesn't mean I know what it means, but I think I can use the help files and my book to look it up again.

The issues are mostly on the XP machine. I had made a workgroup and at setup of the OS I specified a workgroup called HOMENET. If I go

desktop > My Network Places > View Workgroup Computers

I see one stock shared folder and the one I made. BUT that shared folder only shows that it is in the default called 'workgroup' and not Homenet.

I will come back with any how-to questions on doing the simple sharing routine.

Thanks for taking this one step at a time.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

So far I still have nothing. I reviiwed sharing etc but still have nothing showing in the
XP machine. this means that I did the procedure as best I could but but the
network connections for homenet do not exist on lon2biostar.

On lon1machspeed some security issue is preventing me from doing anything with lon2biostar. I do not know how this situation came about. homenet exists on lon1machspeed.

I just confirmed the sharename on lon1machspeed as homenet.

What I'm not getting from your instruction is anything like the share screen which shows the default C$. It's just a big grey blank with only one piece of info about sharing an entire drive and the warnings against doing so.

I need a checklist for each machine. Please do not use any shorthand.

The format is usually start > next keystroke > next keystroke.

XP help is slow and wordy and for my purposes needlessly oblique.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

Here is the latest.

On the XP machine I ran the Network wizard from the control panel just to see
the contents.

The network wizard now shows the workgroup homenet containing lon1machspeed and
lon2biostar.

That seems pretty good. But when trying to navigate on lon1machspeed I got a Data Execution prevention error and the command just returned the error message.

Does this have to do with firewalls or what? I need no internal security between machines at all. On the outside world of the net I use AVG. That is adequate for my needs. How do I turn off security between my own workgroup computers?
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

Take a look at this: http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-623...sageID=2435778
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

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Thanks John.

I read through the piece which was well laid out.

I didn't do any changes yet.

The DEP routine seems to refer to recently installed software. I got the
error by just trying to move things around.


Current status is I can see both machines on each of the two locations. But I only have access via something I tried earlier: making a shortcut to a shared drive which appears as a folder. All this seems way too complicated.

The goal would be: start > My network Places > click on machine name/icon > open to all the folders on it.

Since I've never heard of DEP the default should be on there.
I'll see what's going on with that.
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Old 04-26-2008, 04:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

I've never had DEP errors, so I'm not well versed in how to cure them.
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Old 04-26-2008, 04:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've never had DEP errors, so I'm not well versed in how to cure them.

It's probably something spooky from Microsoft in their 45 million lines of code (or something.) Vista has 55 million lines of code.





for the time being I have some transport of files even if it isn't smooth.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

I have run the same error again.

The DEP refers specifically to Windows Explorer.

I have tried to open files or move them various trying to avoid this
but DEP always catches me.

The setting is the standard one which tells the system to use DEP
only for core programs.

I do not know if my attempts at network setup in a single workgroup called homenet is causing the problem. Or if some tweak of that would fix the
problem.

Again, I wish for no internal security from using my system elements.
There should be a way to turn DEP off since it has never appeared before. I have no idea how to troubleshoot it.

Someone wave a wand and make it go away.

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Old 04-26-2008, 09:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com...-explorer.html

This longish thread via google yielded nothing. They spent a lot of time talking about
spyware and virus removing routines but never said it solved anything.

More time wasted on a dead end.
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DEP is a general capability that attempts to prevent execution of code in data locations. This usually indicates a program crash, and DEP is designed to terminate the process before the process really does more damage. How it's being triggered here is a mystery. I looked as well, but didn't find anything that seemed to help.
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DEP is a general capability that attempts to prevent execution of code in data locations. This usually indicates a program crash, and DEP is designed to terminate the process before the process really does more damage. How it's being triggered here is a mystery. I looked as well, but didn't find anything that seemed to help.

How do I mark this one resolved-- I don't know where to.

When running Spybot (which I'm lax at doing) only 2 things came up.
Those were related to Microsoft Firewall Bypass.

I told Spybot to fix it and I've been able to move some files.

I cannot be sure if I'm out of the woods for sure. But Windows Explorer seems to be functioning again.


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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

Hold the phone.

Problems not resolved yet.

I may have took a couple extra beats but the problems are Back.

I wonder if I have to reinstall (?)
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Re: Share a file between computers on the homenet

I wish I could be of more help here, but this is one I'd probably have to be closer to in order to figure it out.
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