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[onceatime]

Hi, my family have a system where broadband comes from the wall, from the broadband 'box' to a NETGEAR wireless router, which then has a ethernet cord to the main computer. The rest of the computers are on wireless.

Firstly, is there a way to put standard printer on the device. The router does not have a place for anything other than ethernet cables (i.e. usb).

The printer, which can also be used as a fax machine has three cable connections...

A "double" usb cord hole... i have no idea what the real name is, but its more of a square than the standard usb 'rectangle', it also has a standard phone line connection, to go from the wall to the printer, and then another one intended for connecting a phone from the printer.

Is there anyway of using this type of connection?

With this, i am aware that it is possible to create a network printer, if it is connected to a computer connected to the network... I have tried some simple ways of doing this, but it has never worked...

How do i, what steps do i take to add the printer to the internet wireless that i have... i prefer the option of having it connected through the main computer rather than having it connected directly to the router (Which i do not believe is possible with the versions that i have)...

If this is possible, then the next step would be to adding my smart label printer? to it... but lets not worry about that yet

so to conclude... could someone please help me with trying to share my printer with the other computers in my family, through the wireless system that i have, but through being connected to the desktop....




i hope this makes sense and someone is able to help!?!

[Cellus]

It is possible to "share" a printer which is directly connected to a computer. Some printers (and even some eclectic routers) can act as print servers, but in general your average home printer can be shared out via a computer. The only caveat is that the computer it is connect to (and of course the printer) must be on for the printer to be shared.

Instead of typing up instructions, I will instead refer you to an external article which includes step-by-step instructions (conveniently excerpted from "Home Networking for Dummies"):

http://tech.yahoo.com/gd/setting-up-...network/153491

[onceatime]

Hi, thanks for the help so far...

I have done all these instructions, and am now wondering how to use the printer on the other computers.

The instructions were to set up the printer as a shared printer, etc...

Could someone please help me to actually print from another computer, aka, how do i set it up on my other computers, that it is an option... to use that printer...?

thanks again cellus

edit: i think i might actually need some help adding a computer to the network... they all use the same wireless, etc... but i did a search on desktop computer and it said it was the only one in the network...

is there a way for doing this?

[johnwill]

Let's see this for all the computers.

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt:

In the command prompt window that opens, type type the following commands, one at a time, followed by the Enter key:

NBTSTAT -n

IPCONFIG /ALL

Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
Paste the results in a message here.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.

[onceatime]

This could be a long message....

i'll put them in quote boxes so it odesnt get confusing...

This one is the desktop, to which the internet is directly plugged into

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\nameremoved>NBTSTAT -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.2] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
SIMONPC <00> UNIQUE Registered
HOME <00> GROUP Registered
SIMONPC <20> UNIQUE Registered
HOME <1E> GROUP Registered
HOME <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

C:\Documents and Settings\nameremoved>IPCONFIG /ALL

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : simonpc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet
Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-AC-97-B1
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 21 April 2008 10:24:07 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, 19 January 2038 1:14:07 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\nameremoved>

This one is my laptop...

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\112577>NBTSTAT -n

Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.5] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
S112577 <00> UNIQUE Registered
S112577 <20> UNIQUE Registered
STUDENT <00> GROUP Registered
STUDENT <1E> GROUP Registered
STUDENT <1D> UNIQUE Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

Local Area Connection 2:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

C:\Documents and Settings\112577>IPCONFIG /ALL

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : S112577
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : student.trinity.vic.edu.au
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : student.trinity.vic.edu.au
trinity.vic.edu.au
vic.edu.au
edu.au

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Networ
k Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1C-BF-4C-39-08
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 21 April 2008 6:40:45 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, 19 January 2038 1:14:07 PM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connect
ion
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1C-7E-18-A8-20

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Personal Area Network from
TOSHIBA
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-7A-B3-31-C2

C:\Documents and Settings\112577>

another laptop in the family

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\nameremoved2>NBTSTAT -n

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []

No names in cache

Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.7] Scope Id: []

NetBIOS Local Name Table

Name Type Status
---------------------------------------------
E4L-3 <00> UNIQUE Registered
E4L-3 <20> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered

C:\Documents and Settings\nameremoved2>IPCONFIG /ALL

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : E4L-3
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont
roller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-5C-5E-A6

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Networ
k Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-D2-BB-E2-AB
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 21 April 2008 3:30:20 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, 19 January 2038 1:14:07 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\nameremoved2>

These are three of the computers in the family... there are more if you want them...? i thought this might be enough to start??? hope this is some help... it might seem to be a bit of a lost cuase now...

thanks

[johnwill]

There are two computers that both think they're the master browser. This normally happens when a firewall blocks file/print sharing.

Turn off any firewalls for debugging. If the firewall is the problem, you'll have to configure it to allow access to "trusted zone" addresses. Note that some firewalls must be completely uninstalled to stop them from affecting your networking.

Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt.

In the command prompt window that opens, type type the following commands:

PING each remote computer by IP address, and if successful, PING by name. Open a command prompt as described above and type.

PING <ip address>
or
PING <computer name>

Where:
<ip address> - is the x.x.x.x IP address
<computer name> - is the computer name

A failure to PING is almost always a firewall configuration issue. Any failure to PING needs to be corrected before you go any farther.

Note: You can obtain the IP address and computer name of a computer by opening a command prompt (DOS window) and typing IPCONFIG /ALL. This should work for any Windows version. The IPCONFIG /ALL display will provide a wealth of useful information for debugging your network connection.

Check your Services are Started on all PCs:

• Computer Browser
• DHCP Client
• DNS Client
• Network Connections
• Network Location Awareness
• Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
• Server
• TCP/IP Netbios helper
• Workstation

Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.

All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic.

All computers should be in the same workgroup for computer browsing to function properly. File & Print Sharing has to be enabled on any computer you wish to share files or printers from. You also need to actually share the resource in question from My Computer, right click on the drive/printer/folder, and select sharing.

If you encounter difficulties accessing computers that are visible in Network Neighborhood, make sure the computer being accessed has an account with the same name/password as the system connecting to it uses to login.

While the default NetBIOS setting is correct for normal network configurations, it's possible for it to be altered, and it costs nothing to make sure it's correct. NETBIOS over TCP/IP must be enabled for normal network browsing.

[onceatime]

Hi,

I think once i figure out how to ping theother computers i'll be right...

however, my ip address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and it is the same for all the computers... i checked them individually on the internet, and they all show up the same, and they say it detects a proxy? as far as i know one isnt being used...

is there a way of getting past this?

[johnwill]

Your public IP address is always the same, you only have one. This has nothing to do with the file sharing issue.

Read my previous post, it details specifically how to do a ping between the computers, I'm not sure I can state it any clearer.

[onceatime]

Hi,

I got the ping working... it was ping -t xxx.xxx.x.x

i wasn't thinking outside the square...


I'm now further than i've ever got, except i still cant manage to get the printers to print from other computers...

basically up until

All computers should be in the same workgroup for computer browsing to function properly. File & Print Sharing has to be enabled on any computer you wish to share files or printers from. You also need to actually share the resource in question from My Computer, right click on the drive/printer/folder, and select sharing.

If you encounter difficulties accessing computers that are visible in Network Neighborhood, make sure the computer being accessed has an account with the same name/password as the system connecting to it uses to login.

While the default NetBIOS setting is correct for normal network configurations, it's possible for it to be altered, and it costs nothing to make sure it's correct. NETBIOS over TCP/IP must be enabled for normal network browsing.

i understand, but this section above i dont really...


I'm sorry to be annoying, and i really hope you'll be able to be of further assistance, as this is becoming an exciting possibility for my computer.

thanks

edit: i'm not particularly bright with this network stuff... thanks

[johnwill]

PING <IP-Address> works fine for me, see the following example:

C:\>PING 192.168.1.1

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\>



Can I see the IPCONFIG /ALL again? Are you SURE all the computers can ping by computer name to the remote computer?

[onceatime]

Hi, All the computers can not ping by computer name... I've spent a while trying every possible link aka ip and name, from each different computer, and to each different computer

Comp 1: cannot be pinged from other computers by name... IP works
Comp 2: cannot be pinged from other computers by IP or NAME... nothing works
Comp 3: cannot be pinged from other computers by name... IP works
Comp 4: CAN be pinged from other computers by IP and Name... all works... Note, this is the main computer (Desktop), to which the printer is connected to.
Comp 5: Cannot be pinged from other computers by name... IP works
Comp 6: Cannot be pinged from other computers by name... IP works... (can be pinged from Comp 5 by name and IP)

So most cant be pinged by name, generally IP works.. If it came up as anything less than 100% received in ping statistics, then i tried again until it gave 100%... unless it continued to have 0%...

With all of this in mind, how can i make the pinging by name, successful from all computers...

and if it only needs to be successful to ping by name and ip address from the desktop, how can i get the computers to recognise the printer on a remote computer...?

[johnwill]

This sounds clearly like firewall issues. You really MUST disable all the firewalls until you get this working.

I'd also recommend you pick one failing combination of two computers and work on that until it's sorted out, then you'll know how to fix the others.