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Old 08-26-2008, 02:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Problem after problem.. XP repair

Not too sure where to begin, so much has happened in such a short time..

Here's my setup:
10GB HDD - IDE Master - C:\
300GB HDD - IDE Slave - D:\ - this is where XP is installed
500GB SATA - E:\ - where the pagefile is
250GB SATA - F:\
CD/DVD drive - G:\

WinXP Pro SP2 5.1 build 2600
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
AMD Athlon64 3200+ 2GHZ
Corsair 1GB(2 512 sticks) 3200 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 6800XT

I was planning on using one of my HDDs as a virtual machine to install linux onto using VMware(the 10GB). So I moved files that I would use to drive D:. I then did a quick format of drive C:... Bad idea there! I hadn't noticed XP used C: for boot.ini and ntldr. Sooo after the HDD formats, I instantly lose connection to the internet, so I decide to reboot. Ouch! Great, now I can't boot.

Popped in XP CD and hit Enter and then R. Here's my mistake #2. About half way through the repair, I remembered that if I just went into the repair console(just hitting R at first selection screen) I could've done a fixmbr / bootcfg repair / so on. So I stupidly pressed the soft boot button while the repair was still taking place. I went into the repair console and did all that jazz, thought it was fixed. NOW it can't find drivers! Before I mess anything else up (losing data) I just decided to install a fresh copy of XP to drive E: so that I could move all the files in My Documents and Desktop to somewhere out of Documents and Settings.

So after I installed XP to the other HDD and cut all my files to a safe place, I went back to the XP CD and deleted both XP installations.

I then reinstalled XP where it originally was on D:, and everything worked...except the programs I had installed previously, because of a new registry. Doing a quick google, I found out that my registry was saved inside System Volume Information(Thank you Jesus!). I followed the quick guide by copying the 5 files inside System Volume Information\RP041\snapshot. Yes, I checked the date and it was before I foolishly formatted C:. Awsome I thought, now everything should work fine! Booted the comp up....and NOW my keyboard and mouse don't work.

So then I googled a bit, and found that doing a WinXP Repair (Enter -> R on the CD) will solve my problem. I let all the files copy and the comp rebooted. It began to do the repair..oh no! "The file 'asms' on Windows XP SP2 cd cannot be found"....ok, some more googling. All I have to do is hit shift+F10 to bring up a run dialog box, cool...oh wait, my keyboard doesn't work.

I am completely clueless as to why my keyboard isn't working.

I've tried 3 different keyboards and 2 mice like this:

G15 keyboard - USB / Some Logitech mouse, dunno - PS/2. The mouse works fine UNTIL I press a button on the keyboard. Then the green light on the receiver of the mouse disappears..shut down? None of the keyboard keys work.

OK then, I have a USB->PS/2 adapter which I then plugged the G15 into..oh no, BIOS says that there's no keyboard detected...great.

Bought a cheap $10 keyboard at Kmart - I thought if the keyboard were PS/2 then that would surely work! So I go hope happy and merry thinking this would surely work. The numlock indicator light lights up..good. Mouse receiver has a green light..good. Now at the asms prompt screen I try to hit shift+F10..crap, same thing happened. Now the mouse doesn't work again.

So then I went and dug out a Microsoft wireless USB mouse, but the same crap happens. The receiver light for the mouse shuts off as soon as I hit a key on the keyboard.

I really don't want to start a fresh copy of XP, because I have a plethora of programs that'll only work with this backed up registry.. Does ANYONE know what the problem is with the keyboards?

Yes, both keyboards and mice are detected in BIOS, and work fine. It's only after the Windows XP logo at the beginning of the repair where the keyboard locks up and makes the mouse turn off.

*edit* whew, that sure is a lot of text...man are my fingers tired.

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Old 08-26-2008, 03:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Problem after problem.. XP repair

It looks like some resource conflict between the mouse and keyboard. Try setting the bios to factory default settings. Or you could check the device manager and look for any yellow exclamation marks under the mouse and keyboard.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It looks like some resource conflict between the mouse and keyboard. Try setting the bios to factory default settings. Or you could check the device manager and look for any yellow exclamation marks under the mouse and keyboard.
Just set BIOS settings to default, still the same problem using a PS/2 keyboard. Using the G15 with USB, the keyboard acts as if it's disabled. The numlock light is on, but no key works. Mouse works fine though.

I can't get to device manager either. I'm stuck in the XP recovery/repair, it won't let me boot into XP.

If only there were a way to bring up the run console without using the keyboard..

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Old 08-26-2008, 04:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You have tried other ports? I guess you probably have.

You might have to attack it from the other end, rather than buying any more mouse and keyboards, it might be a motherboard problem and you may have to think about taking it to some PC repair shop or if your brave enough you could replace the motherboard.
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You have tried other ports? I guess you probably have.

You might have to attack it from the other end, rather than buying any more mouse and keyboards, it might be a motherboard problem and you may have to think about taking it to some PC repair shop or if your brave enough you could replace the motherboard.
I built this guy about 3 years ago, so I have no problem taking it apart :P. I know it's not a hardware issue at all though, because everything works fine in BIOS and installing a fresh XP also works.

Most likely it's looking for a driver from my previous installation which I no longer have for the keyboard. Don't know why that'd be the case because I'm in the repair part, but that's the only thing I can think of.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow, what a load of crap.

I have the /i386/ASMS folder on this laptop, so I copied it onto a flashdisk and went into the CD recovery console to copy the asms folder to d:\windows to atleast get INTO XP to try and fix the keyboard problem...but I receive "Access is denied" when copying. How perfect. One bad thing after the next.
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You have tried other ports? I guess you probably have.

You might have to attack it from the other end, rather than buying any more mouse and keyboards, it might be a motherboard problem and you may have to think about taking it to some PC repair shop or if your brave enough you could replace the motherboard.

no.... lights on the keyboard mean its works....period...

however windows does nto see it, so that means it pure os related(if he can get into the bios the port is working or else the bios would either toss a code saying no keyboard attached or he would have no lights, and no access to the bios)


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Wow, what a load of crap.

I have the /i386/ASMS folder on this laptop, so I copied it onto a flashdisk and went into the CD recovery console to copy the asms folder to d:\windows to atleast get INTO XP to try and fix the keyboard problem...but I receive "Access is denied" when copying. How perfect. One bad thing after the next.
passthrough authenication, its permissions, on the computer your on now create a local account SAME username password... and test it


also on your hole issue, the best bet is to just start frest delete all partitions
created a new C and load your os there, then creat more patitions for the vm and other storage needs

i can help you fix the kb, but you will have alot of other errors you will discover down the road....at this point start fresh...

btw...even with the sys vol, your applications still need to have dlls/application files registered sysvol does not have those registered dlls/applications in it

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Old 08-27-2008, 09:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
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btw...even with the sys vol, your applications still need to have dlls/application files registered sysvol does not have those registered dlls/applications in it

thanks
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Yeah, I had just remembered that lastnight after my last post. I deleted the bad windows installation and reinstalled a fresh copy. Going through all the programs that won't work now so that I can reinstall them. Thanks for the reply.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah, I had just remembered that lastnight after my last post. I deleted the bad windows installation and reinstalled a fresh copy. Going through all the programs that won't work now so that I can reinstall them. Thanks for the reply.
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