PC Boots up slow.

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 12:15 AM

Hi i have been having problems with my PC booting up as normal specs of pc etc and the problem are below:

Windows 7 Ultimate

Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core CPU E2200 @ 2.20ghz
Installed Memory: 4.00 GB (3.25 usable)
System-Type: 32 bit Operating System
Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce 7800

What happens is when i Load pc up it hangs on a black screen for about 3 or 4 minutes, and then it loads the welcome screen and then i type my password to login and then it hangs for about another 3 or 4 minutes till i actually get to windows :(

and i dont understand why this is happening, i dont have any startup programmes etc so cant see why running so slow.

Regards,
Aaron

**Blade_Jones** · 12-21-2009, 12:18 AM

Are you running a current anti-virus program on the computer?
How full is the hard drive?
Have you ever cleaned the registry? (not a good thing)
What happened before this started happening? Any changed made to the computer?

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 12:23 AM

No because i dont know the best one, as most of them EAt at resources and make pc going slower than normal.

not full 166GB out of 226 reason why its 226 cause it is a 250Gb but Windows 7 takes quite alot to install

Nope never touched the registry cause it can mess computer up, only thing i have done is removed say a programme from the registry to completly uninstall it if doesnt get removed upon deleting it from control panel that is about it.

Nothings when i first installed Windows 7 it was fine and then a week or 2 later it started doing this :( and have no clue why

**Blade_Jones** · 12-21-2009, 12:26 AM

So you have NO anti-virus software on this computer? Have you used it to access the Internet?

Was this a Windows 7 "upgrade" or "fresh install". Upgrades cause problems. Fresh install is the way to go.

Immatix · 12-21-2009, 12:27 AM

You could enable OS boot information and boot logging to see what's happening while the system is booting.

Open msconfig by typing msconfig into the Start menu search box and press enter.

On the Boot tab, enable both Boot log and OS boot information.

Upon rebooting the system, you should see what's happening during boot and possibly where the hang is occurring. Enabling the boot log should create a file named ntbtlog.txt in your C:\Windows directory. This file may be helpful to determine what exactly is happening.

You may also want to check the System log in Event Viewer for errors. Particularly right after a startup.

It could also be possible that the problem is not caused by a hang during the actual boot process, but rather by a service or program running at startup.

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 12:28 AM

Nope have no anti-virus programme and i access the internet yes but mainly Forums and websites i create etc. and my hosting control panel.

and yes was a FRESH INSTALL

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 12:30 AM

Ok will check this out now Immatix

Hey i did that OS Boot Information and i cant find the log file in C:/windows or c:/windows/system32 i even typed in the SEARCH and still doesnt find it :(

Immatix · 12-21-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aaron1988

Ok will check this out now Immatix

Hey i did that OS Boot Information and i cant find the log file in C:/windows or c:/windows/system32 i even typed in the SEARCH and still doesnt find it :(

The ntbtlog.txt document is created only if you enabled "Boot log" in msconfig. "OS boot information" only displays what's happening behind the scenes during boot.

Regardless, if your problem did not occur until the system was finished with the actual boot process, but before the login screen (and after you enter your password), it's likely related to a service or program running at startup. This would be a little harder to figure out.

EDIT: I also second the decision below to run a scan with Security Essentials.

**Blade_Jones** · 12-21-2009, 12:49 AM

I would install Security Essentials for starters
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
Then run a full scan

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 01:00 AM

will run a Full scan now with it. i have the boot log i have attached it and i see it had trobule boot the drivers.

Code:

Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS

Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\MpFilter.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\adfs.SYS
it says Loaded Driver: \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
then says below
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys

File attached below
ntbtlog.txt

Immatix · 12-21-2009, 01:12 AM

Some of those that state "Did not load driver" are normal.

Did you happen to notice an abnormally long hang on any of these when you had OS boot information enabled?

If not, the problem is almost certainly a service or program that's set to run at startup.

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 01:14 AM

Let me reboot and see :)

it stills hangs as it did before i had os boot information on

Immatix · 12-21-2009, 01:25 AM

I'm betting on it being a service or program set to run at startup causing the issue. Let the Security Essentials scan complete and see if it finds anything.

The next step is going to be opening msconfig and choosing Diagnostic Startup in the General tab and rebooting. See if the problem goes away. If so, the delay in the boot process is related to a service or startup entry.

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 01:27 AM

Ok mate will try this :) also someone on my MSN said to me it could even that i have a 32BIT OS Windows 7 Ultimate on 4GB Ram he said that could cause it? is this true?

Immatix · 12-21-2009, 01:31 AM

I highly doubt it. If you're running 32-bit on a system with 4GB or more memory, the only thing that happens is that Windows only recognizes around ~3.5GB of it.

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 01:32 AM

Yes my Pc only recognises 3.25GB :)

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 10:30 AM

Hi, i think i have solved the problem it was because i was mss matching RAM cause i had 2 different sorts in there one DDR2 800MHZ and another one which is DDR SDRAM which is older. Cause since i took 1 of the memories out it seems to off made the pc alot faster on BOOT.

Regards,
Aaron

**Blade_Jones** · 12-21-2009, 12:47 PM

Cool. On a side note, be sure and install anti-virus software on that computer (and keep it current) or you'll be right back here trying to solve an infection.

~~kyle1234~~ · 12-21-2009, 01:01 PM

one problem i found that was using all my hard drive when i logged in was superfetch.
You can safely disable it.
press windows button + r
type services.msc
scroll down to superfetch.
right click it
press stop services
and click the drop down menu, change automatic to disable.
exit the window.

This saves alot of time on boot up. Vista tries to learn and cache programs you use into ram, all on start up. It is a waste of ram and cpu, causing slow boot ups and does not improve performance.

also try the trial edition of Perfect Disk. Its a defragmenting program. Its the best I have seen out there because it arranges your hard drive with its s.m.a.r.t. technology, and can defrag system files such as the pagefile, and other system files used on boot up, thus increasing the boot speed more.

aaron1988 · 12-21-2009, 03:52 PM

Cheers i will get an anti-virus programme installed and upto date and i have also done the "Superfetch :) so hopefully that helps :) i will defrag later on hehe.

Regards,
Aaron

12-21-2009, 12:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	PC Boots up slow. Hi i have been having problems with my PC booting up as normal specs of pc etc and the problem are below: Windows 7 Ultimate Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core CPU E2200 @ 2.20ghz Installed Memory: 4.00 GB (3.25 usable) System-Type: 32 bit Operating System Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce 7800 What happens is when i Load pc up it hangs on a black screen for about 3 or 4 minutes, and then it loads the welcome screen and then i type my password to login and then it hangs for about another 3 or 4 minutes till i actually get to windows :( and i dont understand why this is happening, i dont have any startup programmes etc so cant see why running so slow. Regards, Aaron

12-21-2009, 12:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
Blade_Jones Late Nite Geek Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: City of Angels, traffic, etc Posts: 821 OS: XP, Vista, 7, Ubuntu	Re: PC Boots up slow. Are you running a current anti-virus program on the computer? How full is the hard drive? Have you ever cleaned the registry? (not a good thing) What happened before this started happening? Any changed made to the computer?

12-21-2009, 12:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	Re: PC Boots up slow. No because i dont know the best one, as most of them EAt at resources and make pc going slower than normal. not full 166GB out of 226 reason why its 226 cause it is a 250Gb but Windows 7 takes quite alot to install Nope never touched the registry cause it can mess computer up, only thing i have done is removed say a programme from the registry to completly uninstall it if doesnt get removed upon deleting it from control panel that is about it. Nothings when i first installed Windows 7 it was fine and then a week or 2 later it started doing this :( and have no clue why

12-21-2009, 12:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Blade_Jones Late Nite Geek Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: City of Angels, traffic, etc Posts: 821 OS: XP, Vista, 7, Ubuntu	Re: PC Boots up slow. So you have NO anti-virus software on this computer? Have you used it to access the Internet? Was this a Windows 7 "upgrade" or "fresh install". Upgrades cause problems. Fresh install is the way to go.

12-21-2009, 12:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
Immatix Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows 7 RC	Re: PC Boots up slow. You could enable OS boot information and boot logging to see what's happening while the system is booting. Open msconfig by typing msconfig into the Start menu search box and press enter. On the Boot tab, enable both Boot log and OS boot information. Upon rebooting the system, you should see what's happening during boot and possibly where the hang is occurring. Enabling the boot log should create a file named ntbtlog.txt in your C:\Windows directory. This file may be helpful to determine what exactly is happening. You may also want to check the System log in Event Viewer for errors. Particularly right after a startup. It could also be possible that the problem is not caused by a hang during the actual boot process, but rather by a service or program running at startup. Last edited by Immatix; 12-21-2009 at 12:30 AM.

12-21-2009, 12:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	Re: PC Boots up slow. Nope have no anti-virus programme and i access the internet yes but mainly Forums and websites i create etc. and my hosting control panel. and yes was a FRESH INSTALL

12-21-2009, 12:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	Re: PC Boots up slow. Ok will check this out now Immatix Hey i did that OS Boot Information and i cant find the log file in C:/windows or c:/windows/system32 i even typed in the SEARCH and still doesnt find it :( Last edited by aaron1988; 12-21-2009 at 12:40 AM.

12-21-2009, 12:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
Blade_Jones Late Nite Geek Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: City of Angels, traffic, etc Posts: 821 OS: XP, Vista, 7, Ubuntu	Re: PC Boots up slow. I would install Security Essentials for starters http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ Then run a full scan

12-21-2009, 01:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Immatix Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows 7 RC	Re: PC Boots up slow. Some of those that state "Did not load driver" are normal. Did you happen to notice an abnormally long hang on any of these when you had OS boot information enabled? If not, the problem is almost certainly a service or program that's set to run at startup. Last edited by Immatix; 12-21-2009 at 01:15 AM.

12-21-2009, 01:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	Re: PC Boots up slow. Let me reboot and see :) it stills hangs as it did before i had os boot information on Last edited by aaron1988; 12-21-2009 at 01:18 AM.

12-21-2009, 01:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Immatix Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows 7 RC	Re: PC Boots up slow. I'm betting on it being a service or program set to run at startup causing the issue. Let the Security Essentials scan complete and see if it finds anything. The next step is going to be opening msconfig and choosing Diagnostic Startup in the General tab and rebooting. See if the problem goes away. If so, the delay in the boot process is related to a service or startup entry.

12-21-2009, 01:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	Re: PC Boots up slow. Ok mate will try this :) also someone on my MSN said to me it could even that i have a 32BIT OS Windows 7 Ultimate on 4GB Ram he said that could cause it? is this true?

12-21-2009, 01:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
Immatix Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12 OS: Windows 7 RC	Re: PC Boots up slow. I highly doubt it. If you're running 32-bit on a system with 4GB or more memory, the only thing that happens is that Windows only recognizes around ~3.5GB of it.

12-21-2009, 01:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	Re: PC Boots up slow. Yes my Pc only recognises 3.25GB :)

12-21-2009, 10:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	Re: PC Boots up slow. Hi, i think i have solved the problem it was because i was mss matching RAM cause i had 2 different sorts in there one DDR2 800MHZ and another one which is DDR SDRAM which is older. Cause since i took 1 of the memories out it seems to off made the pc alot faster on BOOT. Regards, Aaron

12-21-2009, 12:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
Blade_Jones Late Nite Geek Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: City of Angels, traffic, etc Posts: 821 OS: XP, Vista, 7, Ubuntu	Re: PC Boots up slow. Cool. On a side note, be sure and install anti-virus software on that computer (and keep it current) or you'll be right back here trying to solve an infection.

12-21-2009, 01:01 PM	#19 (permalink)
~~kyle1234~~ Troubled Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 56 OS: Vista 7 64b	Re: PC Boots up slow. one problem i found that was using all my hard drive when i logged in was superfetch. You can safely disable it. press windows button + r type services.msc scroll down to superfetch. right click it press stop services and click the drop down menu, change automatic to disable. exit the window. This saves alot of time on boot up. Vista tries to learn and cache programs you use into ram, all on start up. It is a waste of ram and cpu, causing slow boot ups and does not improve performance. also try the trial edition of Perfect Disk. Its a defragmenting program. Its the best I have seen out there because it arranges your hard drive with its s.m.a.r.t. technology, and can defrag system files such as the pagefile, and other system files used on boot up, thus increasing the boot speed more.

12-21-2009, 03:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
aaron1988 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gillingham Posts: 50 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version	Re: PC Boots up slow. Cheers i will get an anti-virus programme installed and upto date and i have also done the "Superfetch :) so hopefully that helps :) i will defrag later on hehe. Regards, Aaron