rundll32 and Win32 applications - Page 2

Riskyone101 · 11-01-2009, 09:11 AM

Thank You JcGriff2 well appreciated here.

**hohomo** · 11-01-2009, 12:18 PM

ok so in my recovery center a couple options and im not 100% sure on which to do. i have restore programs and drivers which re installs factory programs and drivers, restore my c drive and restore complete system. i know the complete would probably be the best but would restore my c drive be all i need?

Riskyone101 · 11-01-2009, 05:47 PM

Restore compete system.

Let us know how it goes and if you need any more help?

**hohomo** · 11-02-2009, 11:34 PM

yeah i will. should get to it in the next couple days

**hohomo** · 11-05-2009, 10:44 PM

alright i did the recovery and everything seems to be ok except for one thing. i had an encrypted file that i had saved to my external hard drive. when i tryed to copy it back it says i can not access it and dont have privileges. i just used the encrypt contents to secure data feature but now i cant open it. anyway around this?

Riskyone101 · 11-06-2009, 05:22 AM

Did you back up the certificate and key also for the encrypted file?...

**hohomo** · 11-06-2009, 03:48 PM

i don't think so :-\ where would those files be?

**jcgriff2** · 11-06-2009, 05:19 PM

Was the external drive FAT32?

The security key would have been backed up prior to the re-install of the OS.

**hohomo** · 11-06-2009, 06:23 PM

no its NTSF. is there a way to get it back on that?

**jcgriff2** · 11-06-2009, 07:27 PM

If it was FAT32, I would say not a chance in hell b/c file permission settings stay within NTFS - as far as I have ever tested.

Have you used line item cmds takeown & icacls to try and break the drive open?

Have you logged onto the hidden admin account & tried to access the drive?

jcgriff2

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**hohomo** · 11-06-2009, 08:07 PM

i just tried logging on to the hidden admin account and tried to open the file but no success. what are some cmd takedowns and icacls i could try? i'm not familiar with them.

**jcgriff2** · 11-06-2009, 08:40 PM

Hi -

That is odd that the hidden admin account is denied access.

Instead of fooling with the takeown & icacls line commands, add takeown & icacls to your context menu (right-click), copy ALL in the code box below, paste it into a Notepad, save it as takeown.reg. Then 2x-click on takeown.reg to merge it with the registry.

Then go to the item in question, right-click and you will see 'Take Ownership" - select it. You (should) now have permission.

Be wary as to exactly what it is that you take ownership of. Vista does check file ownership depending on what updates or ?? it is doing.

Good Luck to you.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2

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Take Ownership

Code:


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t"

**hohomo** · 11-06-2009, 10:35 PM

i thought for sure that was going to work but it didn't :-( i tried it on the hidden account as well. after i click take ownership the cmd flashes but still can't open. any other things i can try?

**jcgriff2** · 11-06-2009, 10:50 PM

This may sound ridiculous, but do you have an XP system handy?

I have seen "unaccessible" files by Vista or Windows 7 accessed with ease in XP.

If you can access them, copy them to a FAT32 formatted drive, then bring them into Vista.

jcgriff2

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**hohomo** · 11-07-2009, 01:13 PM

tried to copy it to a FAT32 drive on xp but no luck. i tried this program called Advanced EFS Data Recovery which is suppose to recover EFS files but it's unable to decrypt. ugh

Riskyone101 · 11-08-2009, 04:45 PM

See if one of these selections help you in decrypting the file:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

**hohomo** · 11-10-2009, 02:22 PM

tried several programs to try to decrypt it but none work. some ask for a pas phrase which i don't have cause its efs. i read some people saying that if you don't have the certificate you're out of luck. i guess that's true :-\

Riskyone101 · 11-11-2009, 07:50 AM

Right, my thought on this also. Certificate and key in NTFS.

When I encryted file the first thing that happened is a popup box came up asking to backup certificate and key.
However if you were going to reinstall windows then you would of needed to also copy the certificate and key with the encrypted file so then it could be accessed at a later point.

11-01-2009, 09:11 AM	#21 (permalink)
Riskyone101 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago, IL. Posts: 3,697 OS: XP Pro SP3, MCE 2005 sp3, Vista Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications Thank You JcGriff2 well appreciated here. __________________

11-01-2009, 12:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications ok so in my recovery center a couple options and im not 100% sure on which to do. i have restore programs and drivers which re installs factory programs and drivers, restore my c drive and restore complete system. i know the complete would probably be the best but would restore my c drive be all i need?

11-01-2009, 05:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
Riskyone101 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago, IL. Posts: 3,697 OS: XP Pro SP3, MCE 2005 sp3, Vista Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications Restore compete system. Let us know how it goes and if you need any more help? __________________

11-02-2009, 11:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications yeah i will. should get to it in the next couple days

11-05-2009, 10:44 PM	#25 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications alright i did the recovery and everything seems to be ok except for one thing. i had an encrypted file that i had saved to my external hard drive. when i tryed to copy it back it says i can not access it and dont have privileges. i just used the encrypt contents to secure data feature but now i cant open it. anyway around this?

11-06-2009, 05:22 AM	#26 (permalink)
Riskyone101 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago, IL. Posts: 3,697 OS: XP Pro SP3, MCE 2005 sp3, Vista Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications Did you back up the certificate and key also for the encrypted file?... __________________

11-06-2009, 03:48 PM	#27 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications i don't think so :-\ where would those files be?

11-06-2009, 05:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Supp Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California / Southern New Jersey Posts: 10,054 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications Was the external drive FAT32? The security key would have been backed up prior to the re-install of the OS. __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ December 1, 2009

11-06-2009, 06:23 PM	#29 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications no its NTSF. is there a way to get it back on that?

11-06-2009, 07:27 PM	#30 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Supp Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California / Southern New Jersey Posts: 10,054 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications If it was FAT32, I would say not a chance in hell b/c file permission settings stay within NTFS - as far as I have ever tested. Have you used line item cmds takeown & icacls to try and break the drive open? Have you logged onto the hidden admin account & tried to access the drive? jcgriff2 . __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ December 1, 2009

11-06-2009, 08:07 PM	#31 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications i just tried logging on to the hidden admin account and tried to open the file but no success. what are some cmd takedowns and icacls i could try? i'm not familiar with them.

11-06-2009, 08:40 PM	#32 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Supp Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California / Southern New Jersey Posts: 10,054 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications Hi - That is odd that the hidden admin account is denied access. Instead of fooling with the takeown & icacls line commands, add takeown & icacls to your context menu (right-click), copy ALL in the code box below, paste it into a Notepad, save it as takeown.reg. Then 2x-click on takeown.reg to merge it with the registry. Then go to the item in question, right-click and you will see 'Take Ownership" - select it. You (should) now have permission. Be wary as to exactly what it is that you take ownership of. Vista does check file ownership depending on what updates or ?? it is doing. Good Luck to you. Regards. . . jcgriff2 . Take Ownership Code: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\\shell\runas] @="Take Ownership" "NoWorkingDirectory"="" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\\shell\runas\command] @="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F" "IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas] @="Take Ownership" "NoWorkingDirectory"="" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas\command] @="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t" "IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t" __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ December 1, 2009 Last edited by jcgriff2; 11-06-2009 at 08:42 PM.

11-06-2009, 10:35 PM	#33 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications i thought for sure that was going to work but it didn't :-( i tried it on the hidden account as well. after i click take ownership the cmd flashes but still can't open. any other things i can try?

11-06-2009, 10:50 PM	#34 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Supp Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California / Southern New Jersey Posts: 10,054 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications This may sound ridiculous, but do you have an XP system handy? I have seen "unaccessible" files by Vista or Windows 7 accessed with ease in XP. If you can access them, copy them to a FAT32 formatted drive, then bring them into Vista. jcgriff2 . __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ December 1, 2009

11-07-2009, 01:13 PM	#35 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications tried to copy it to a FAT32 drive on xp but no luck. i tried this program called Advanced EFS Data Recovery which is suppose to recover EFS files but it's unable to decrypt. ugh

11-08-2009, 04:45 PM	#36 (permalink)
Riskyone101 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago, IL. Posts: 3,697 OS: XP Pro SP3, MCE 2005 sp3, Vista Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications See if one of these selections help you in decrypting the file: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aq=f&oq=&aqi= __________________

11-10-2009, 02:22 PM	#37 (permalink)
hohomo I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 47 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications tried several programs to try to decrypt it but none work. some ask for a pas phrase which i don't have cause its efs. i read some people saying that if you don't have the certificate you're out of luck. i guess that's true :-\

11-11-2009, 07:50 AM	#38 (permalink)
Riskyone101 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago, IL. Posts: 3,697 OS: XP Pro SP3, MCE 2005 sp3, Vista Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate My System	Re: rundll32 and Win32 applications Right, my thought on this also. Certificate and key in NTFS. When I encryted file the first thing that happened is a popup box came up asking to backup certificate and key. However if you were going to reinstall windows then you would of needed to also copy the certificate and key with the encrypted file so then it could be accessed at a later point. __________________