Windows Startup problem

Yelsikneb · 07-07-2009, 10:40 AM

Whenever I start up Windows, I'm having a few problems with programs starting up. I have a chat program, Trillian, and an object bar, ObjectDock, which I want to start up when I log on. I set the "Load at startup" options in both programs, hence adding them to the All Users Startup folder in the Start Menu, but when Windows Starts, two of them start up. If I move the two shortcuts from the All Users to my user's Startup folder, they both won't start up at all. And if I use MSCONFIG, two of each is displayed and unchecking one of the duplicates will make it so that the program does not start up at all. I have no idea what to do now. Please help. Thanks.

TJ Belfiore · 07-07-2009, 12:14 PM

Hi -

As much I don't like recommending CCleaner, it's a decent startup manager - and very fast and quite user-friendly. It's free, also.

Just give it a try, I'd just go a head and delete "both" entries for that program, then reboot, then go back into that program and select "Load at startup".

Regards,
UW.

Yelsikneb · 07-07-2009, 09:55 PM

Hm... I tried that but it didn't work. And only one showed up in CCleaner, while there are two in MSCONFIG. I really have no idea.

TJ Belfiore · 07-08-2009, 03:05 PM

Try deleting them all, even if there's one. Reboot.

Yelsikneb · 07-27-2009, 09:38 PM

I tried that but it didn't work. In Revo Uninstaller it says one is in Current Users Startup and the other is in All Users Startup. But unchecking one, like I said, will result in no startup at all.

TJ Belfiore · 07-27-2009, 09:51 PM

You mean, like NO system startup or just NO startup of that startup item?

Yelsikneb · 07-27-2009, 10:30 PM

No startup of that startup item haha. And I found a thread on Google describing my problem perfectly.

http://forum.soft32.com/windows/Windows-Merged-Users-Local-User-Startup-Folder-ftopict359434.html

"My problem is like this:
Windows 'points' the All User's Startup folder to my Startup Folder.
So these things happen:

My startup programs fires up when Windows starts. All files in my Startup
Folder runs.

Windows fires up the startup items in the All Users folder. This fires up my
startup programs the second time, since Windows sees this as the All Users
folder.

The actual All Users\Programs\Startup is empty, and no program or item here
gets executed when Windows starts. MSCONFIG Startup tab display double items
(the original item in my Startup folder, and a duplicate for the All Users),
and unchecking one unchecks both. "

And I found a possible solution maybe from this site
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/...6/m/9250961985

"problemed solved. Windows copies the registry keys from CurrentUser branch to LocalMachine branch when I copied desktop.ini file from my profile to the All Users profile.

Stoopid windows. Why have the registry keys if you're only going to use ini files as the marker!? /rant"

Just I'm not sure what to make of it--is there some duplicate registry entry somewhere?

TJ Belfiore · 07-27-2009, 10:50 PM

This about describes my whole post :

http://www.tampabay.com/news/science...cle1011923.ece

Autoruns : http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...n8RzFOO64qFliQ

dhiiren · 07-27-2009, 10:56 PM

when i start my computer i found a message ' data execution - Microsoft. your computer has closed this program ' Run a DDL as an app'. pls help me, thank you

Yelsikneb · 07-27-2009, 11:06 PM

Alright, I found the solution to my problem:

http://www.somacon.com/p398.php

It's simply a conflict in the Registry concerning where to look for startup files--All Users or USER.

07-07-2009, 10:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Yelsikneb Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 54 OS: Windows Vista 64-bit Home Premium My System	Windows Startup problem Whenever I start up Windows, I'm having a few problems with programs starting up. I have a chat program, Trillian, and an object bar, ObjectDock, which I want to start up when I log on. I set the "Load at startup" options in both programs, hence adding them to the All Users Startup folder in the Start Menu, but when Windows Starts, two of them start up. If I move the two shortcuts from the All Users to my user's Startup folder, they both won't start up at all. And if I use MSCONFIG, two of each is displayed and unchecking one of the duplicates will make it so that the program does not start up at all. I have no idea what to do now. Please help. Thanks. __________________ Current Running PR's 5 miles -- 27:17 \\\ 5K (3.1 miles) -- 16:13 \\\ 3200m (2 miles) -- 10:09 1600m (1 mile) -- 4:36 \\\ 800m (0.5 mile) -- 2:04 \\\ 400m (0.25 mile) -- 56

07-07-2009, 12:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
TJ Belfiore I said no but I wanted it Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Paradise, California Posts: 3,436 OS: 7 x64, XP x86	Re: Windows Startup problem Hi - As much I don't like recommending CCleaner, it's a decent startup manager - and very fast and quite user-friendly. It's free, also. Just give it a try, I'd just go a head and delete "both" entries for that program, then reboot, then go back into that program and select "Load at startup". Regards, UW. __________________ Regards, TJ Belfiore

07-07-2009, 09:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Yelsikneb Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 54 OS: Windows Vista 64-bit Home Premium My System	Re: Windows Startup problem Hm... I tried that but it didn't work. And only one showed up in CCleaner, while there are two in MSCONFIG. I really have no idea. __________________ Current Running PR's 5 miles -- 27:17 \\\ 5K (3.1 miles) -- 16:13 \\\ 3200m (2 miles) -- 10:09 1600m (1 mile) -- 4:36 \\\ 800m (0.5 mile) -- 2:04 \\\ 400m (0.25 mile) -- 56

07-08-2009, 03:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
TJ Belfiore I said no but I wanted it Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Paradise, California Posts: 3,436 OS: 7 x64, XP x86	Re: Windows Startup problem Try deleting them all, even if there's one. Reboot. __________________ Regards, TJ Belfiore

07-27-2009, 09:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Yelsikneb Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 54 OS: Windows Vista 64-bit Home Premium My System	Re: Windows Startup problem I tried that but it didn't work. In Revo Uninstaller it says one is in Current Users Startup and the other is in All Users Startup. But unchecking one, like I said, will result in no startup at all. __________________ Current Running PR's 5 miles -- 27:17 \\\ 5K (3.1 miles) -- 16:13 \\\ 3200m (2 miles) -- 10:09 1600m (1 mile) -- 4:36 \\\ 800m (0.5 mile) -- 2:04 \\\ 400m (0.25 mile) -- 56

07-27-2009, 09:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
TJ Belfiore I said no but I wanted it Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Paradise, California Posts: 3,436 OS: 7 x64, XP x86	Re: Windows Startup problem You mean, like NO system startup or just NO startup of that startup item? __________________ Regards, TJ Belfiore

07-27-2009, 10:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
Yelsikneb Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 54 OS: Windows Vista 64-bit Home Premium My System	Re: Windows Startup problem No startup of that startup item haha. And I found a thread on Google describing my problem perfectly. http://forum.soft32.com/windows/Windows-Merged-Users-Local-User-Startup-Folder-ftopict359434.html "My problem is like this: Windows 'points' the All User's Startup folder to my Startup Folder. So these things happen: My startup programs fires up when Windows starts. All files in my Startup Folder runs. Windows fires up the startup items in the All Users folder. This fires up my startup programs the second time, since Windows sees this as the All Users folder. The actual All Users\Programs\Startup is empty, and no program or item here gets executed when Windows starts. MSCONFIG Startup tab display double items (the original item in my Startup folder, and a duplicate for the All Users), and unchecking one unchecks both. " And I found a possible solution maybe from this site http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/...6/m/9250961985 "problemed solved. Windows copies the registry keys from CurrentUser branch to LocalMachine branch when I copied desktop.ini file from my profile to the All Users profile. Stoopid windows. Why have the registry keys if you're only going to use ini files as the marker!? /rant" Just I'm not sure what to make of it--is there some duplicate registry entry somewhere? __________________ Current Running PR's 5 miles -- 27:17 \\\ 5K (3.1 miles) -- 16:13 \\\ 3200m (2 miles) -- 10:09 1600m (1 mile) -- 4:36 \\\ 800m (0.5 mile) -- 2:04 \\\ 400m (0.25 mile) -- 56 Last edited by Yelsikneb; 07-27-2009 at 10:32 PM.

07-27-2009, 10:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
TJ Belfiore I said no but I wanted it Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Paradise, California Posts: 3,436 OS: 7 x64, XP x86	Re: Windows Startup problem This about describes my whole post : http://www.tampabay.com/news/science...cle1011923.ece Autoruns : http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...n8RzFOO64qFliQ __________________ Regards, TJ Belfiore

07-27-2009, 10:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
dhiiren Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1 OS: WINDOW XP	Re: Windows Startup problem when i start my computer i found a message ' data execution - Microsoft. your computer has closed this program ' Run a DDL as an app'. pls help me, thank you

07-27-2009, 11:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Yelsikneb Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 54 OS: Windows Vista 64-bit Home Premium My System	Re: Windows Startup problem Alright, I found the solution to my problem: http://www.somacon.com/p398.php It's simply a conflict in the Registry concerning where to look for startup files--All Users or USER. __________________ Current Running PR's 5 miles -- 27:17 \\\ 5K (3.1 miles) -- 16:13 \\\ 3200m (2 miles) -- 10:09 1600m (1 mile) -- 4:36 \\\ 800m (0.5 mile) -- 2:04 \\\ 400m (0.25 mile) -- 56