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I have one major problem, my computer lags all the time as it is caughing at something big. so i checked the task manager to se what was slowing down my system, and guess what i found, SVChost, many!.
so I began shutting them all down, and a V8 came to life, but an error took the fun away from me, telling that an unexpected shutdown happened, and that the system was now restarting. well short fun, so i found out the svchost was probably the problem. so i googled it. and checked for several solutions, but none of them applied to my problem here. found some similar, but no proper conclusion to MY problem. so yeah, i have all the critical updates, i have a clean version of windows, but some processes are chewing up my system, and i don't know how to deal with it. ^^' It happens on every bootup, and lasts through the entire use. when i shut down one svc host, my computer stopslaging for a little while, until svchost starts up again, causing lag again. and often when i shut them down, some apps simply wont work, which a dont think is abnormal anyways, it eats my system, or whatever task is, i know it has to be something about it.oh yeah, one more thing, my system is a packard bell Easynote b3529 D, with 702 mb ram, amd 3000+ cpu, via s3/unichrome graphics board. probably way to weak for Vista and so on, but it was far worse in Xp, but there was the exactly same problem though. laging ALL the time, even with clean install, so i suspect that cpu or ram might be the problem, but I wont rely on only that hypothesis, so any help boostingmysystem again, would be greatly appreciated :D so I hereby come humbley at your feet, asking for your help. Th3-1nonly. Last edited by Th3-1nonly; 04-07-2009 at 05:28 PM. Reason: lack of information |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
Hi -
Nothing mysterious about multiple svchost.exe running. There may be 12 or more at one time. svchost = SERVICE HOST - it runs Vista System Services. Some svchost.exe may run 1 service while others group several services together because not all services need to be active at all times. It saves system resources. I think your biggest problem is RAM - 702mb is not enough for Vista. Minimum is 1024 MB; I would not run Vista with less than 2048 MB RAM. With 702 MB RAM, your system would be experiencing excessive paging (virtual memory) - using the hard drive to compensate for inadequate physical memory (RAM). Regards. . . jcgriff2 . |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
yeah, thanks. new ram will be ordered in the blink of an eye. but the problem is, it did the same in windows xp. :( lagged all the time, making music and youtube films a pain in the *** to view . but 702 mb of ram should be more than enough to run Xp right?
so its either windows or my hardware, is there some way i can check if any of my hardware, specificaly is bad, damaged, or unstable. so i know which part that specifically must be replaced? would be really good to know, since i dont want to waste m,y hard earned money, got no dayjob you see ^^' |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
with XP I usually have it running around 400mb of ram
and with VIsta I see it between 900mb to 1.3 gb of ram used up on idle for either a 32 or 64 bit system and your laptop is limited to 2 x 512mb 2700 ram sticks DDR 333mhz you should just stick with XP on that computer it really can't take Vista at all this is where I got my info http://support.packardbell.com/se/it...1D00668&g=1400 |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
i know i should better stick with xp, but the problem is, that the computer lags even more in xp. believe me, i would never have made the switch unless trying too see if i could avoid the lag problems, which is slightly better here in vista.
but i could try running linux, butmy bet is that wouldbe a no go, tried it before, with wine and everything, butcouldnt run photoshop, ora single low demanding game. |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
your system can't run games except 8 year old games
try Ubuntu its runs around around 350mb of ram http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download (32bit version) your computer is slow for XP too have you been installing all the proper XP drivers? |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
installed every byte of all drivers made for my laptop, and acctually, the games is as new as 2003, anyway, thats not my problem. but i think im gonna go back to my previous laptop instead. its much more polite. i have a solid gfaming computer for games, but the games i wanna run on my laptop is basically old gamews like morrowind, half life, jets n guns, and dungeon siege. on top of it all cs 1.6. and it does too, and without any lag, except the windows lag. its the windows that lags, not the computer, i ran the same games some years ago on a computer from '98, with Xp sp2. without lag.
tell me why a computer 7 years never should lag on the same games, when the old fart with 585 mhz cpu, 256 mb of ram, 20gb HDD, and ati radeon rag 128 pro, did not. either its faulty hardware or windows. my guess is both, so line up ll dioagnostics tools you can. that can helpo me resolve wether to change back to an older laptop that doesnt lag, or keep the **** i have? |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
I don't know about 900mb Mcninjaguy. I'm online now with 2 messengers running, 4 webpages open and a game running in the background. I have 1024 ram, have a look at my task manager.
TaskManager.jpg Th3-1nonly, you just can't randomly shut down svchost.exe's. Well, you can until you hit one that is running something important, then the ball game is Over. If you see something running high in usage try Right clicking on it and choose Go to Services from the dropdown menu, it will show you what that particular svchost.exe is running. Better yet click on the View tab on taskmanager and cliick on select columns and check the box descriptions. |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
if i hit an important one the pc restarts, if i break the windows i reinstall it as i normally would, so thanks for the appointment, anyway, minumum required for vista is 512 mb of ram, i have 702, my older pc(the first one i tried vista on) had 512, but it never lagged in windows normally, and especially not in xp, this one does. shutting down svchost only shows how stupid i am fiddling with the important service programs running for windows, but they were so many, so i could aswell try and see what happened when i shut one of.
about the taskbar, it says im between 80 to 100% cpu use all the time, in xp too, so i now guess my cpu is badly damaged, but switchin an amd 3000+ is not hard, but to expensive to even give it a try, sorry. so i guess ill just go back to my hp compaq nx9010 it atleast doesnt lag, and run the cpu out of control showing the ''nekkid'' dashboard. but ill check out your tip zappaboss, and see what i find. |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
Vista home basic will run around 500mb although I would never get Home basic ever
Vista home premium will run around 900mb at the very least I will never off hand refer to to vista's memeory usage below Vista Home Premium @Th3-1nonly I wouldn't run Vista on that computer its not worth the hassle and upgrading is a big waste of money turning off svchost.exe processes is not recommended and it shou'dn't be done at all |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
Th3-1nonly, Its no big deal to end services in task manager but some people go and start Disabling them. Most if you stop them will just start when they are needed. So, let me ask you, did this problem just start happenning or are you saying you just got this laptop and put xp on it then Vista? Has this been a problem from the get go? I'm lookin' at your manual now.
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
Hi -
Like the Vista system, your XP is short on RAM at 256MB as well. Simply running an updated anti-virus program would cause excessive paging. Windows - Vista or XP - allocates RAM to the Kernel, video, APi, etc... so apps will get 1/2 of the 1024mb. Heavy system resource apps like Live Messenger & Mail can make my Vista x64 4GB RAM system "pause" while Live conducts initial business. Vista kernel memory alone is usually around 300-400mb. For Vista system services, there is no better authority than Charles "Black Viper" Sparks - he details all -- http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm Regards. . . jcgriff2 . Last edited by jcgriff2; 04-10-2009 at 03:01 AM. |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
Excellent site jc and a great reference in case you have disabled a bunch of services and find yourself not remembering which ones you disabled. Viper kinda tells ya, in a nutshell, what ya what you can and can't live without in the way of services.
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
Yes he does. I wish I would have known of it sooner than I did in late 2007.
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
well i got this laptop from a friend, with a basic of 512 mb of ram, 50gb hdd, and the amd 3000+ cpu, so i stuffed with another ram chip with 256 mb of ram, and switched the hadd to an 80 gb version instead, since the otherone bluescreened all the time. it all went pretty good, first thing i installed was a clean version of my own Xp, at first bootup it did not lag, so i installed some drivers, wham it started laging. so i simply dont know what the problem could be atm.
so now i reinstalled the xp, but laged again after innstalling drivers, so i googled it, and it seemed like it was a regular problem alot of poeple had, so i thought. ''hmm, vista is kinda better, even though its somewhat heavier.'' so i installed home premium, which i borrrowed from my fathers Acer. (i borrowed the software cd) since my x64 did not work, when i first tried to install the windows for the very first time. when it booted up, which took about 5 minutes, and yes its because its a heavy os running on a pretty old laptop from 2005, i know all of that no need to tell. but after i installed drivers, surprisingly it did not lag. so i thought ''woohoo, vista all together is way bether than xp'' until a few days ago, when the cpu began running at full speed, and it lagged like hell again, this is all i ran: no virus scan, no windowslive messenger, no internet. only pure desktop. !nothing more! so it makes me wonder why it lags, and since it did the exaclty same in Xp, it makes me think its faulty hardware, but one never know, before the os is checked to not be the source of all evil. one other thing is, no i havent been disabeling any vital, or non vital processes, just shutting them down, before they woke up again as if nothing had ever happened. thats all. Last edited by Th3-1nonly; 04-10-2009 at 05:45 AM. |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
Mornin' Th3, I assume this is your beast>http://support.packardbell.com/se/it...1D00668&g=1400
and you've looked at your cpu amd 3000+ here http://support.packardbell.com/se/it...ppn=PB21D00668 and you've updated to the latest cpu driver AMD CPU WinXP SP1 dated 7-12-2006 (you are kidding?) located here under specifications, http://support.packardbell.com/se/it...ppn=PB21D00668 and you're not in power saving mode your settings are for always on in Power Schemes and cpu runs maxed out all the time? I see it came with XP Home. Did you dump the prefetch files here. http://support.packardbell.com/se/it...ppn=PB21D00668 Can you disable prefetch? I believe you can but have you stopped it for a test or disabled it for a test? Have you backed up all your precious stuff and don't have any special programs that will break your heart if you have to download and install them again? You stated "so i stuffed with another ram chip with 256 mb of ram, and switched the hadd to an 80 gb version instead, since the otherone bluescreened all the time, it all went pretty good, first thing i installed was a clean version of my own Xp, at first bootup it did not lag, so i installed some drivers, wham it started laging. so i simply dont know what the problem could be atm. " You popped in a fresh driver for cpu when you changed the hard drives out? Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmm.
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
XP Prefetch = Vista Superfetch.
To disable Syuperfetch (sysmain) - START | services.msc | scroll to superfetch & disable. This system is not meant for Vista x64 jcgriff2 . @Zappaboss - thanks for informative post. JC . |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
uhm, i dont think the cpu driver was a fresh one ^^' but i am trying to disable 'superfetch' now, and the power scheme, and tell you what happens.
thansk for the replies. well yes, the original 50 gb harddrive, bluescreened, so i switched it with an 80 gb harddrive instead. worked out alot better then ^^ |
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Re: laggy, slow, inunderstandable, and the svchost
Do you know what the bugcheck (STOP error) was on the BSOD when orig 50 GB HDD in?
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