Hardrive error?

J0Y · 11-21-2008, 12:27 PM

Hey,

I upgraded from Windows XP to Windows Vista. However, I deleted windows.old folder which was 50.1GB. Which took me back up to 202GB.

I have just checked again and I'm back down to 154GB. I havnt installed anything near that size or downloaded anything. What could be the problem?

Thanks in Advance,
J0Y.

Windows Vista™ Home Premium.

J0Y · 11-21-2008, 09:32 PM

Bump.

J0Y · 11-21-2008, 10:36 PM

I have about.... 18GB (If that) use'd plus Windows Vista.

I removed the old windows folder when I upgraded which took me to 203GB, now I have no idea. It was 162GB earlier now it's 159.

J0Y · 11-23-2008, 08:03 AM

Bump.

J0Y · 11-25-2008, 02:46 AM

Bump......

dai · 11-25-2008, 07:47 AM

do a disk cleanup
if the computer is running ok turn off the restore then renable it and create a new restore point
empty the recycle bin
then defrag
and see where your at

J0Y · 11-27-2008, 03:27 AM

Done them.

Still the same, it's now down to 157GB. (Havnt installed anything)

dai · 11-27-2008, 05:07 AM

is it running auto backup you can check if it is set through start button/programs/accessoriies/system tools / backup

J0Y · 11-30-2008, 04:54 PM

"Automatic file backup is not set up"

Thats what it said.

**jcgriff2** · 11-30-2008, 05:09 PM

Run TreeSize at elevated admin level - this will tell you space used by folder.

Install -

http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

Go to desktop, RIGHT-click on icon, run as administrator.

Also check VSS - system restore. START | rstrui - turn off, re-boot, turn back on again. NOTE: you will lose all of your system restore points by doing this.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2

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J0Y · 12-01-2008, 04:28 PM

I run TreeSize, here are the results:

It says 157GB on TreeSize and 150GB on My Computer, however I still don't see how I've used 80GB. Vista can't possibly be that big.

J0Y · 12-01-2008, 04:38 PM

I turned it off, turing it back on now. However, I am up to 184GB which sounds more reasonable to me.

**jcgriff2** · 12-01-2008, 09:40 PM

The 13GB+ in the \users folder is very high - unless you have movies, pix, music, etc...

VSS reset gave you ~34gb - actually just right space used for VSS. You can expect it to use ~15% of your HDD space -
232GB x 15% = 34.8GB - so right on target. That will return now that VSS back on.

If you want to see detailed listing of every file in the \users folder and space used -
START | type cmd.exe | RIGHT-CLICK ON CMD.EXE | RUN AS ADMIN - CMD/DOS screen appears - paste command (to paste, right-click on top of DOS screen, select edit, select paste) - may have to hit enter

Code:

dir c:\users /a /s > %temp%\0.txt & start notepad %temp%\0.txt

It will appear to hang - it is not. Give it ~30 seconds minimum. Notepad will open w/ results.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2

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J0Y · 12-02-2008, 09:31 PM

I don't have any movies/music downloaded.

**jcgriff2** · 12-03-2008, 03:23 AM

What is in the users folder? Use the command that I provided in my previous post.

jcgriff2

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**l_b_rex** · 12-04-2008, 07:15 AM

Disable system restore and I bet you will get all that space back.

dai · 12-04-2008, 07:27 AM

already cleaned it out

**l_b_rex** · 12-04-2008, 07:29 AM

Turn off or cleaned out? I don't know how to "clean it out". Even if there are no restore points system restore will still take about 15-20% of available hard disk space. Is it turned off?

dai · 12-04-2008, 07:37 AM

when you turn it off it cleans them out by wipeing them
a new point will use about 300mg multiple poits can go to 15%

**l_b_rex** · 12-04-2008, 08:46 AM

I just tested that and you are 100% correct. I turned off system restore and then turned it back on and created 1 restore point and only lost 3GB on the hard drive.
So much for my simple idea. :(

11-21-2008, 12:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Hardrive error? Hey, I upgraded from Windows XP to Windows Vista. However, I deleted windows.old folder which was 50.1GB. Which took me back up to 202GB. I have just checked again and I'm back down to 154GB. I havnt installed anything near that size or downloaded anything. What could be the problem? Thanks in Advance, J0Y. Windows Vista™ Home Premium.

11-21-2008, 09:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? Bump.

11-21-2008, 10:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? I have about.... 18GB (If that) use'd plus Windows Vista. I removed the old windows folder when I upgraded which took me to 203GB, now I have no idea. It was 162GB earlier now it's 159.

11-23-2008, 08:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? Bump.

11-25-2008, 02:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? Bump......

11-25-2008, 07:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,487 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Hardrive error? do a disk cleanup if the computer is running ok turn off the restore then renable it and create a new restore point empty the recycle bin then defrag and see where your at __________________

11-27-2008, 03:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? Done them. Still the same, it's now down to 157GB. (Havnt installed anything)

11-27-2008, 05:07 AM	#8 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,487 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Hardrive error? is it running auto backup you can check if it is set through start button/programs/accessoriies/system tools / backup __________________

11-30-2008, 04:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? "Automatic file backup is not set up" Thats what it said.

11-30-2008, 05:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Support Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 9,984 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: Hardrive error? Run TreeSize at elevated admin level - this will tell you space used by folder. Install - http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml Go to desktop, RIGHT-click on icon, run as administrator. Also check VSS - system restore. START \| rstrui - turn off, re-boot, turn back on again. NOTE: you will lose all of your system restore points by doing this. Regards. . . jcgriff2 . __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ October 2009

12-01-2008, 04:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? I run TreeSize, here are the results: It says 157GB on TreeSize and 150GB on My Computer, however I still don't see how I've used 80GB. Vista can't possibly be that big.

12-01-2008, 04:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? I turned it off, turing it back on now. However, I am up to 184GB which sounds more reasonable to me.

12-01-2008, 09:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Support Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 9,984 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: Hardrive error? The 13GB+ in the \users folder is very high - unless you have movies, pix, music, etc... VSS reset gave you ~34gb - actually just right space used for VSS. You can expect it to use ~15% of your HDD space - 232GB x 15% = 34.8GB - so right on target. That will return now that VSS back on. If you want to see detailed listing of every file in the \users folder and space used - START \| type cmd.exe \| RIGHT-CLICK ON CMD.EXE \| RUN AS ADMIN - CMD/DOS screen appears - paste command (to paste, right-click on top of DOS screen, select edit, select paste) - may have to hit enter Code: dir c:\users /a /s > %temp%\0.txt & start notepad %temp%\0.txt It will appear to hang - it is not. Give it ~30 seconds minimum. Notepad will open w/ results. Regards. . . jcgriff2 . __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ October 2009

12-02-2008, 09:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
J0Y Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 62 OS: Windows Vista	Re: Hardrive error? I don't have any movies/music downloaded.

12-03-2008, 03:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Support Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 9,984 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: Hardrive error? What is in the users folder? Use the command that I provided in my previous post. jcgriff2 . __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ October 2009

12-04-2008, 07:15 AM	#16 (permalink)
l_b_rex The almighty Dr.Tran! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,088 OS: Vista Home Premium 32 bit	Re: Hardrive error? Disable system restore and I bet you will get all that space back.

12-04-2008, 07:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,487 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Hardrive error? already cleaned it out __________________

12-04-2008, 07:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
l_b_rex The almighty Dr.Tran! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,088 OS: Vista Home Premium 32 bit	Re: Hardrive error? Turn off or cleaned out? I don't know how to "clean it out". Even if there are no restore points system restore will still take about 15-20% of available hard disk space. Is it turned off?

12-04-2008, 07:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,487 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	Re: Hardrive error? when you turn it off it cleans them out by wipeing them a new point will use about 300mg multiple poits can go to 15% __________________

12-04-2008, 08:46 AM	#20 (permalink)
l_b_rex The almighty Dr.Tran! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,088 OS: Vista Home Premium 32 bit	Re: Hardrive error? I just tested that and you are 100% correct. I turned off system restore and then turned it back on and created 1 restore point and only lost 3GB on the hard drive. So much for my simple idea. :(