For the love of GOD what is the deal with Vista Defrag?????

**George Safford** · 04-19-2008, 11:38 AM

I did a search on this and nothing comes up, why? How long does Vista take to defrag? I found on line that someone took 14 hours to defrag a virtually empty hard drive. I think Bill needs to get this one fixed because it seems a step back on performance. My system is fast but can't speed this program up. Let me know your experiences with this one because it is driving me crazy!!!

**jcgriff2** · 04-19-2008, 12:51 PM

Hi George. . .

Good to have you back at TSF again.

Yes, I also find the Vista defrag to be ... well ... slow. Same with Windows Explorer.

What I usually do is run a defrag on numerous large individual files that I use daily with the SysInternals utility program Contig v1.54 by Mark Russinovich, which can be downloaded from Microsoft TechNet HERE. SysInternals is a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft - since 2006.l

Personally, I have very little use these days for the Vista defrag utility as I re-install Vista often (I need a pristine copy for testing software).

Hope this is of some help to you.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2

**George Safford** · 04-19-2008, 02:17 PM

Thanks for the info and it is good to be back. I'll give your program a whirl. Thanks again.....

**nickster_uk** · 04-19-2008, 02:41 PM

My two cents: i've never had a problem with Vista defrag though I have only used it a few times but each time I have used it, it didn't take too long.

However, in terms of ability, it isn't a patch on Perfect Disk...which is not only faster but defrags more files.

**George Safford** · 04-19-2008, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcgriff2

Hi George. . .

Good to have you back at TSF again.

Yes, I also find the Vista defrag to be ... well ... slow. Same with Windows Explorer.

What I usually do is run a defrag on numerous large individual files that I use daily with the SysInternals utility program Contig v1.54 by Mark Russinovich, which can be downloaded from Microsoft TechNet HERE. SysInternals is a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft - since 2006.l

Personally, I have very little use these days for the Vista defrag utility as I re-install Vista often (I need a pristine copy for testing software).

Hope this is of some help to you.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2

I tried it and it did not do anything. Is there something I'm missing?

**jcgriff2** · 04-19-2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Safford

I tried it and it did not do anything. Is there something I'm missing?

Hi George...

When you say that the SysInternals program did nothing - is it because there was no report or no apparent defragmentation - or both?

I ran contig v1.54 and did not find much, but would not expect to as there are not that many fragmented files due to a recent Vista install. How long ago did you defrag your HDD?

Try this command from the DOS-type command prompt box -

Bring up an ELEVATED command prompt ( START | type cmd.exe | right-click on cmd.exe up top | select Run as Administrator | answer the UAC prompt - Continue/enter Admin password )

Now... copy/paste the following into the "DOS" command prompt box - EXACTLY as it appears (this assumes that the SysInternals program is on the d: drive and in a folder called SysInternals). This will defragment the files within the ProgramData folder. Type/paste one line at a time, then press enter after each.

d:
cd\
cd\SysInternals
contig -v -a -s c:\programdata\*.*>c:\$contig-04-19-08.txt & start notepad c:\$contig-04-19-08.txt

If you have problems with the paste using ctrl-v, then right-click on the top of the "DOS" command prompt box then select "Edit" then select paste.

Either way, a notepad should appear with the registry key contents inside it - if unfamiliar to you, you will see "%" signs and recognizable folder names as well as letter/numbers mixed together. This is OK. Then copy all and paste results in your next post and I'll take a look.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2

**Placehold** · 04-21-2008, 03:22 PM

Hello

I just want to add something here

I use something called Auslogics Disk Defrag, Its simple, fast, reliable, easy to use and is completely free and compatible with vista

regards

Craig

**George Safford** · 04-21-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Placehold

Hello

I just want to add something here

I use something called Auslogics Disk Defrag, Its simple, fast, reliable, easy to use and is completely free and compatible with vista

regards

Craig

Thanks I will also give it a try. It seems that the virtual disc is faster but this will give me something to compare it to.

redrider · 08-22-2009, 08:32 AM

I'm doing a first time defrag on a 500G hard drive - good god in heaven it is unreasonable.
It has been running 5 hours now and I don't even know how far along it is.

This is definately a step back for fragmentation - gimme a darned abacus.

**Placehold** · 08-22-2009, 10:46 AM

Try the non GUI defrag, Its alot faster

1. Click start and type 'CMD'

2. Right click and run as administrator

3. In Command Prompt type the following and hit enter

defrag c: -v -r

You should find that the command prompt will not respond until the defrag is done however it will return the results of the defrag.

Regards

Craig

04-19-2008, 11:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
George Safford I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Essex Junction, Vermont Posts: 685 OS: Vista Premium 64Bit My System	For the love of GOD what is the deal with Vista Defrag????? I did a search on this and nothing comes up, why? How long does Vista take to defrag? I found on line that someone took 14 hours to defrag a virtually empty hard drive. I think Bill needs to get this one fixed because it seems a step back on performance. My system is fast but can't speed this program up. Let me know your experiences with this one because it is driving me crazy!!!

04-19-2008, 12:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Supp Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California / Southern New Jersey Posts: 10,067 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: For the love of GOD what is the deal with Vista Defrag????? Hi George. . . Good to have you back at TSF again. Yes, I also find the Vista defrag to be ... well ... slow. Same with Windows Explorer. What I usually do is run a defrag on numerous large individual files that I use daily with the SysInternals utility program Contig v1.54 by Mark Russinovich, which can be downloaded from Microsoft TechNet HERE. SysInternals is a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft - since 2006.l Personally, I have very little use these days for the Vista defrag utility as I re-install Vista often (I need a pristine copy for testing software). Hope this is of some help to you. Regards. . . jcgriff2 __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ December 1, 2009

04-19-2008, 02:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
George Safford I helped the forums. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Essex Junction, Vermont Posts: 685 OS: Vista Premium 64Bit My System	Re: For the love of GOD what is the deal with Vista Defrag????? Thanks for the info and it is good to be back. I'll give your program a whirl. Thanks again.....

04-19-2008, 02:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
nickster_uk Moderator, Microsoft Support, Happy to support TSF! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,043 OS: XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu v8.04 My System	Re: For the love of GOD what is the deal with Vista Defrag????? My two cents: i've never had a problem with Vista defrag though I have only used it a few times but each time I have used it, it didn't take too long. However, in terms of ability, it isn't a patch on Perfect Disk...which is not only faster but defrags more files. __________________ My system: ASUS P5K-E WiFi \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz (OC 3.60GHz) \| 4GB Corsair DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 RAM (4-4-4-12) \| PowerColor ATI Radeon HD 3850 Pro Xtreme 512MB GDDR3 GPU \| Maxtor DiamondMax 22 500GB, Maxtor DiamondMax 23 500GB & 2xMaxtor DiamondMax 21 250GB SATA HDDs \| Thermaltake CL-P0114 Heatsink + 6 LED Case Fans \| Corsair HX620W Modular PSU \| Enermax Black Knight (CS-527) Case \| Pioneer DVR-216 SATA 20x20 DVD±RW In a world without walls or fences - who needs Windows and Gates?

04-21-2008, 03:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Placehold Mentor, Microsoft Support Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 871 OS: Vista home Premium My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: For the love of GOD what is the deal with Vista Defrag????? Hello I just want to add something here I use something called Auslogics Disk Defrag, Its simple, fast, reliable, easy to use and is completely free and compatible with vista regards Craig __________________ *How To Disable Mobsync*

08-22-2009, 08:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
redrider Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Indian Harbor Beach, Florida Posts: 31 OS: XP, Linux	Re: For the love of GOD what is the deal with Vista Defrag????? I'm doing a first time defrag on a 500G hard drive - good god in heaven it is unreasonable. It has been running 5 hours now and I don't even know how far along it is. This is definately a step back for fragmentation - gimme a darned abacus.

08-22-2009, 10:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Placehold Mentor, Microsoft Support Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 871 OS: Vista home Premium My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: For the love of GOD what is the deal with Vista Defrag????? Try the non GUI defrag, Its alot faster 1. Click start and type 'CMD' 2. Right click and run as administrator 3. In Command Prompt type the following and hit enter defrag c: -v -r You should find that the command prompt will not respond until the defrag is done however it will return the results of the defrag. Regards Craig __________________ *How To Disable Mobsync*