A few questions about SP1

Anarchy101 · 03-21-2008, 12:40 PM

Okay, first off, I was under the impression that DX 10.1 was going to be a part of SP1, but now i'm seeing that i'm still running 10.0. I saw another thread on this topic but nobody ever really answered the guys question, so now i'm asking again

I have an 8800gtx....yeah it's a DX10 card but does it even support DX 10.1 and what exactly is the main change from .0 to .1? Even though it's a necessary update regardless if your card supports it or not, but if your card DOES support it....are there any extra graphical benefits?

I just installed SP1 last night and so far it just seems to be causing even more problems for games....which is bad...starting to wonder if microsoft can do anything right..

My vertical sync doesn't appear to be working anymore since the SP1 install. It's turned on either in the options for said game or in the nvidia control panel.....yet I have horizontal tearing in every game now and it's a tad bit annoying.

**jcgriff2** · 03-21-2008, 01:58 PM

Hi anarchy101 -

Welcome to TSF.

If you installed SP1 yourself and did not allow Windows Updates to do, please see the following Microsoft Bulletin KB948343 found HERE. After reviewing, I suggest that you check the Device Manager to see if your system is using any of the drivers mentioned therein.

One of my systems had trouble after I installed SP1 because of two drivers that Microsoft now admits are not compatible with Vista SP1.

Good Luck to you.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2

Anarchy101 · 03-21-2008, 02:08 PM

No, I did it through automatic updates..

**Placehold** · 03-21-2008, 04:03 PM

Unfortunatley Direct X 10.1 hasn't yet been confirmed in the SP1 package, It was previously assumed that SP1 would carry the patches and extensive features of direct X but unfortunatley not even a stand alone version has been released.
At the end of last year a beta of Direct X 10.1 was put out testing and was assumed it would launch fairly shortly after (With SP1) but still no news

Keep checking http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/WindowsVista.aspx for updates

Craig

wareagle · 03-21-2008, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarchy101

No, I did it through automatic updates..

I'd like to know why Windows Update hasn't indicated SP1 is available. "Check for updates" does not find it. So, is it available or not?

I've waited patiently for Microsoft to release it to the public, and I'm anxious to try it. So, where is it? I'm tempted to download the standalone and let 'er rip.

**simpswr** · 03-21-2008, 06:45 PM

This is the one I upgraded with:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Anarchy101 · 03-21-2008, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wareagle

I'd like to know why Windows Update hasn't indicated SP1 is available. "Check for updates" does not find it. So, is it available or not?

I've waited patiently for Microsoft to release it to the public, and I'm anxious to try it. So, where is it? I'm tempted to download the standalone and let 'er rip.

If you're as unlucky as me, you'll wait before downloading it and do some research first...I didn't have any trouble finding it with automatic updates though, so I don't know what you're doing wrong there. But I can tell you, that at least for me, not speaking for everyone, I'm having more problems with Vista (especially with games) then I ever did before SP1

wareagle · 03-22-2008, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarchy 101

... so I don't know what you're doing wrong there

Why do you think I'm doing anything wrong?

I know you didn't mean that in a derogatory manner, and I also know you're having problems with Vista and gaming. I am not a gamer, so I can only sympathize. I'd say at this point, "Vista ain't ready for the big time," but that's just my opinion. I've made a choice to go with it only because it came pre-installed on my laptop.

My problems have been with streaming media. I have another thread here to which no one responded with any substantive suggestions. I'm hoping SP1 resolves those issues.

Thanks, 'simpswr' That's the link I found, and if Windows Update doesn't give me an opportunity to download SP1 before the end of the month, I'll use it.

I am willing to give Vista a try, but I'm not going out of my way to buy an OS with so many bugs when there's too many available for free. I can use any number of operating systems for document creation and browsing, including streaming media. That would include previous versions of Windows I already own.

**Placehold** · 03-22-2008, 07:09 AM

Hey wareagle

I have noticed you have been left unanswered in your pervious thread
http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-support/windows-vista-support/226680-media-player-11-low-memory-error.html#post1387517
I have since posted a solution for your problem that will hopefull rectify your issue

regards

Craig

wareagle · 03-22-2008, 11:58 AM

I think there's a possible solution to the SP1 issue in the other thread cannot download sp1 At least, the information your gave is interesting.

03-21-2008, 12:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Anarchy101 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: None of your business Posts: 131 OS: Vista 64 bit	A few questions about SP1 Okay, first off, I was under the impression that DX 10.1 was going to be a part of SP1, but now i'm seeing that i'm still running 10.0. I saw another thread on this topic but nobody ever really answered the guys question, so now i'm asking again I have an 8800gtx....yeah it's a DX10 card but does it even support DX 10.1 and what exactly is the main change from .0 to .1? Even though it's a necessary update regardless if your card supports it or not, but if your card DOES support it....are there any extra graphical benefits? I just installed SP1 last night and so far it just seems to be causing even more problems for games....which is bad...starting to wonder if microsoft can do anything right.. My vertical sync doesn't appear to be working anymore since the SP1 install. It's turned on either in the options for said game or in the nvidia control panel.....yet I have horizontal tearing in every game now and it's a tad bit annoying. __________________ Intel Core2 Duo e6750 conroe@ 2.6ghz - BFGtech Geforce 9800 GX2 - 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 800 - Asus P5N-E 650i SLi mobo - Antec Neo Power Blue 650w - Sound Blaster X-fi Xtreme gamer - 2x 160GB Western Digital IDE HDD. Don't ask me if I have the latest drivers when you already know the answer :P

03-21-2008, 01:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
jcgriff2 Moderator, Microsoft Supp Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Springs, California / Southern New Jersey Posts: 10,053 OS: Windows 7, Vista Ultimate My System	Re: A few questions about SP1 Hi anarchy101 - Welcome to TSF. If you installed SP1 yourself and did not allow Windows Updates to do, please see the following Microsoft Bulletin KB948343 found HERE. After reviewing, I suggest that you check the Device Manager to see if your system is using any of the drivers mentioned therein. One of my systems had trouble after I installed SP1 because of two drivers that Microsoft now admits are not compatible with Vista SP1. Good Luck to you. Regards. . . jcgriff2 __________________ . . . . . . . . BSOD Posting Instructions B Expecting a reply and waiting > 36 hours ? Send a PM to me containing a link to your thread My availability will be limited through ~ December 1, 2009

03-21-2008, 02:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anarchy101 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: None of your business Posts: 131 OS: Vista 64 bit	Re: A few questions about SP1 No, I did it through automatic updates.. __________________ Intel Core2 Duo e6750 conroe@ 2.6ghz - BFGtech Geforce 9800 GX2 - 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 800 - Asus P5N-E 650i SLi mobo - Antec Neo Power Blue 650w - Sound Blaster X-fi Xtreme gamer - 2x 160GB Western Digital IDE HDD. Don't ask me if I have the latest drivers when you already know the answer :P

03-21-2008, 04:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Placehold Mentor, Microsoft Support Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 871 OS: Vista home Premium My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: A few questions about SP1 Unfortunatley Direct X 10.1 hasn't yet been confirmed in the SP1 package, It was previously assumed that SP1 would carry the patches and extensive features of direct X but unfortunatley not even a stand alone version has been released. At the end of last year a beta of Direct X 10.1 was put out testing and was assumed it would launch fairly shortly after (With SP1) but still no news Keep checking http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/WindowsVista.aspx for updates Craig __________________ *How To Disable Mobsync*

03-21-2008, 06:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,203 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: A few questions about SP1 This is the one I upgraded with: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

03-22-2008, 07:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
Placehold Mentor, Microsoft Support Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 871 OS: Vista home Premium My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: A few questions about SP1 Hey wareagle I have noticed you have been left unanswered in your pervious thread http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-support/windows-vista-support/226680-media-player-11-low-memory-error.html#post1387517 I have since posted a solution for your problem that will hopefull rectify your issue regards Craig __________________ *How To Disable Mobsync*

03-22-2008, 11:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
wareagle Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20 OS: Vista Home Premium	Re: A few questions about SP1 I think there's a possible solution to the SP1 issue in the other thread cannot download sp1 At least, the information your gave is interesting.