[SOLVED] Obtaining Outlook Express on its own

Herb Kugel · 12-22-2007, 05:49 AM

Hi,
My old computer died and I purchased a new computer with Windows Vista Premium preinstalled. As is common these days, I did not receive an install disk. My problem is I would still like to use Outlook Express. In reading Microsoft documentation, I am told that Outlook Express comes as part of Internet Explorer. Is there a way I can obtain Outlook Express on its own?
Thank you.
Herb Kugel

CTSNKY · 12-22-2007, 06:00 AM

Windows (Live) Mail replaces Outlook Express in Vista, so I believe the answer to your question is no.

~~Monty Python~~ · 12-22-2007, 09:37 PM

To further clarify, Windows Mail basically IS "Outlook Express" under another name. I used OE for years, and have been using Windows Mail for over a year. They function exactly the same, and look only slightly different.

Importing OE data into Windows Mail is difficult, however. I had to resort to manually importing registry keys from my XP to Vista, with only limited success. Which means that the Mail Rules have to be re-done.

The contacts and the mail itself did transfer, but it was difficult & time consuming. If you want to know how to transfer OE data to Windows Mail, I'd start another thread.

Herb Kugel · 12-23-2007, 07:08 AM

Hi, thank you.
My problem is I have a large Outlook .pst file given to me and I want to import it. I don't want to touch Windows mail because I'm scared of what could happen. I thought if I could also install O.E., I could import the .pst file to O.E. and if O.E. croaks, well that's life. At least Windows mail would stay okay. I brought down Mozilla's thunderbird, but it imports nothing that I could find.
H

~~Monty Python~~ · 12-23-2007, 07:48 AM

If there is a standalone OE available (I doubt there is) and IF it would run under Vista (I doubt that too) and IF there were any difference at all between OE and Windows Mail (I don't think so), it would still be easier to import the OE data into Windows Mail with a higher likelihood of success.

I think your avoidance of using Windows Mail is unnecessary; see my first post. Note how many years I have used both. You should at least try before putting possibly unnecessary effort into finding an alternative.

**nickster_uk** · 12-23-2007, 08:52 AM

Hi, you won't be able to obtain or run Outlook Express in Vista. As Monty Pyhton explained, Vista uses Windows Mail which is supposed to be an improvement on OE. I don't use it myself from what I can tell it functions in the same manner as OE so you shouldn't have an problems using it.

MBCowan · 12-26-2007, 09:42 PM

Had similar issues. Wanted to run OE with VISTA. Main difference was that Windows Mail would not download mail from hotmail.com (which I used for situations where I didn't trust the sender not to sell my e-mail address). Tried to use Outlook instead, but the current Microsoft Office Suite (2007) doesn't include Outlook unless you pay an additional $100 or so, and I'm not sure if that would download hotmail.com either. Finally was able to install Outlook from the 2003 suite but, eventually, gave up and went to Thunderbird. There are add-ons that help import mail from OE and/or other computers into Thunderbird, but not always 100% effective--some e-mails got lost in the process.

12-22-2007, 05:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Herb Kugel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 27 OS: win xp	[SOLVED] Obtaining Outlook Express on its own Hi, My old computer died and I purchased a new computer with Windows Vista Premium preinstalled. As is common these days, I did not receive an install disk. My problem is I would still like to use Outlook Express. In reading Microsoft documentation, I am told that Outlook Express comes as part of Internet Explorer. Is there a way I can obtain Outlook Express on its own? Thank you. Herb Kugel

12-22-2007, 06:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
CTSNKY Knower of all that is MS Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 10,755 OS: (multiple machines) 95, 98, 2K & XP Home & Pro	Re: Obtaining Outlook Express on its own Windows (Live) Mail replaces Outlook Express in Vista, so I believe the answer to your question is no. __________________ GO BIG BLUE!!

12-22-2007, 09:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
~~Monty Python~~ Troubled Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 462 OS: Vista 32-bit Ultimate	Re: Obtaining Outlook Express on its own To further clarify, Windows Mail basically IS "Outlook Express" under another name. I used OE for years, and have been using Windows Mail for over a year. They function exactly the same, and look only slightly different. Importing OE data into Windows Mail is difficult, however. I had to resort to manually importing registry keys from my XP to Vista, with only limited success. Which means that the Mail Rules have to be re-done. The contacts and the mail itself did transfer, but it was difficult & time consuming. If you want to know how to transfer OE data to Windows Mail, I'd start another thread.

12-23-2007, 07:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
Herb Kugel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 27 OS: win xp	Re: Obtaining Outlook Express on its own Hi, thank you. My problem is I have a large Outlook .pst file given to me and I want to import it. I don't want to touch Windows mail because I'm scared of what could happen. I thought if I could also install O.E., I could import the .pst file to O.E. and if O.E. croaks, well that's life. At least Windows mail would stay okay. I brought down Mozilla's thunderbird, but it imports nothing that I could find. H

12-23-2007, 07:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
~~Monty Python~~ Troubled Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 462 OS: Vista 32-bit Ultimate	Re: Obtaining Outlook Express on its own If there is a standalone OE available (I doubt there is) and IF it would run under Vista (I doubt that too) and IF there were any difference at all between OE and Windows Mail (I don't think so), it would still be easier to import the OE data into Windows Mail with a higher likelihood of success. I think your avoidance of using Windows Mail is unnecessary; see my first post. Note how many years I have used both. You should at least try before putting possibly unnecessary effort into finding an alternative.

12-23-2007, 08:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
nickster_uk Moderator, Microsoft Support, Happy to support TSF! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 6,968 OS: XP Pro SP3, Vista Ultimate SP1, Ubuntu v8.04 My System	Re: Obtaining Outlook Express on its own Hi, you won't be able to obtain or run Outlook Express in Vista. As Monty Pyhton explained, Vista uses Windows Mail which is supposed to be an improvement on OE. I don't use it myself from what I can tell it functions in the same manner as OE so you shouldn't have an problems using it. __________________ My system: ASUS P5K-E WiFi \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz (OC 3.60GHz) \| 4GB Corsair DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 RAM (4-4-4-12) \| PowerColor ATI Radeon HD 3850 Pro Xtreme 512MB GDDR3 GPU \| Maxtor DiamondMax 22 500GB, Maxtor DiamondMax 23 500GB & 2xMaxtor DiamondMax 21 250GB SATA HDDs \| Thermaltake CL-P0114 Heatsink + 6 LED Case Fans \| Corsair HX620W Modular PSU \| Enermax Black Knight (CS-527) Case \| Pioneer DVR-216 SATA 20x20 DVD±RW In a world without walls or fences - who needs Windows and Gates?

12-26-2007, 09:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
MBCowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northeast US Posts: 2 OS: Vista Home Premium	Re: [SOLVED] Obtaining Outlook Express on its own Had similar issues. Wanted to run OE with VISTA. Main difference was that Windows Mail would not download mail from hotmail.com (which I used for situations where I didn't trust the sender not to sell my e-mail address). Tried to use Outlook instead, but the current Microsoft Office Suite (2007) doesn't include Outlook unless you pay an additional $100 or so, and I'm not sure if that would download hotmail.com either. Finally was able to install Outlook from the 2003 suite but, eventually, gave up and went to Thunderbird. There are add-ons that help import mail from OE and/or other computers into Thunderbird, but not always 100% effective--some e-mails got lost in the process.