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Old 03-22-2008, 01:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Hello

My ability to auto-hide the Menu bar in Windows Explorer is gone.

The Menu bar is always there now.
Organize/Layout shows that the Menubar is unchecked.

Also, when I 'unlock' the Menu Bar, I see the handle but I'm unable to do anything with it.

Any help is appreciated.

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Old 03-22-2008, 01:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Hello adsandiego

Welcome to TSF

There is a couple issues surrounding this,sometimes the menu bar is mis-labeled and can get stuck on windows explorer

Try these procedures

1. Open windows explorer and select tools
2. Folder options
3. View tab
4. Uncheck second option down always show menus
5. Click OK





and it should disappear, If not

1. download the google bar for internet explorer or firefox
2. Open windows explorer and select tools
3. Right click on the menu bar
4. Select google



*I used Windows Live Toolbar because thats all i had installed at the time but ideally it should be google toolbar



and hopefully this time it should disappear

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Old 03-22-2008, 02:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Craig,

Thanks for your response.

I was able to follow your instruction but unfortunately,
neither option worked.

Is there anything in the registry that we can take a look at?

Thanks.

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Old 03-22-2008, 02:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Ok try this Open Task Manager and Regedit.

<shift>+<ctrl>+<right-click> on the Start Menu & select 'Exit Explorer'

In Regedit, navigate to:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Desktop]

delete the value named 'Toolbars'.

In Task Manager, select 'File' -> 'New Task' -> type 'explorer' to restart
the shell.

If that doesn't do the trick, repeat deleting 'TaskbarWinXP' as well.
if you have the side bar gadget up and running close that and stop all processes for it using task manager

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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Craig,

I already tried that option previously.

What could be causing this? inherent bug?
Any other ideas? :)

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Old 03-22-2008, 03:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Well according to the Technet team this is due to a configuration file error but i cant find the file of registry key the actually specifies the issue,I'm going to play with this a while and see what i can come up with
If i do find more about it i will post and PM you to let you know
And finally what version of Vista are you using?

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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

I sure appreciate it.

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Vista Home Premium
6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001


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Old 03-22-2008, 03:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Ok i want you to try something

1. start
2. run
3. regedit
4. follow this key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Advanced\Folder\AlwaysShowMenus
5. Dont open but highlight the file AlwaysShowMenus
6. on the right hand side, double click checkedValue
7. change the value to 0 (The number zero)

open windows explorer and see if the menu is still there if not reboot, if the menu is still there then replce the 0 back to 1


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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

It did not work, but I noticed something else odd as a result of this.
So I modified the registry entry as above.
Now, when I go back to explorer Tools/Folder Option/View, the
'Always show menu' option is now checked. I unchecked it, "Applied" and exited. I immediately go back to Tools/... and the "Always show .. " is checked again. It's as if the changes was not permitted.

Changing registry entry back to 1, per your instruction.
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Oh,
my uxtheme.dll is modified/patched for customized visual styles.
not sure if this has anything to do with it.
it has worked before.
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Might do but in saying that there are other people out there with the same issues.
hmmmmmm
I'll keep trying


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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

I'm going to restore the original .dll files and see if it makes
a difference.

I'll post only if it does.

Thanks for working on this.
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Uninstall any Internet explorer bar you may have installed

in windows explorer click view
and try selecting between the explorer bar and toolbar

This issue relates directly to Internet explorer bar, I disabled the tool bars in Internet Explorer,opened windows explorer and was able to toggle between explorer and toolbar options until the toolbar disappeared

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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

I do not use IE and therefore have not installed any IE explorer bar.
I did remove all firefox extensions that had to do with 'menu' just in case.

In my Windows Explorer, there is a 'Menu bar' option from the "Vew" pull down. It expands to 'Discuss' and 'Research'. I do not know what these are. Clicking 'Research' gives me an empty sidebar. Attempts at clicking 'Discuss' is stopped by a security warning of AtiveX being used in an unsafe manner.

I thought i'd try using COM object deletion of the CLSID stored under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID key by looking for one of two component categories that are specifics for explorer bar: {00021493-0000-0000-C000-000000000046} {00021494-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}. They were not in the registry.

I tried WinDefender to see if I could unload it that way. No good.

I think i'm just going to do a fresh install and see if SP1 had anything to do with this. As I had already used the SP1 post installation cleaner, I can't restore but will have to do a fresh instalation. News at 10.
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

i was going thro the registry and i found this
there TWO ALWAYS SHOW MENUS THERE IN

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Advanced\Folder\AlwaysShowMenus



i set both of them to 0 but to no luck
maybe one should be delete or something
iv add srceenshots of it so u can found it and see what mine
looks like so see if yall have two
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Re: Cannot AutoHide menuBar - Organize/layout/menu bar unchecked.

Hello

Yes, Craig had me try those options yesterday too. No good.

Anyhow. I gave up and did a clean install (I know that's the
easy way out :) ... I figured I need a clean slate with SP1 anyway.
Well, it's working so far, auto-hide is back ... I'm keeping track
though as I reinstall my apps and extensions etc. to see if I can
pinpoint the culprit. So far, we can eliminate SP1 as the cause ...

I'll update.
Thanks.
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