Offsite Backup, Server 2003

**Eclipse2003** · 05-08-2008, 01:06 PM

I am looking for a good offsite/online backup. Currently we back-up around 14 GB using IOMEGA's backup software to a 35/90 REV drive. We'd like to get some sort of offsite/online backup going. Do you have any recommendations? Anything where we don't have to buy additional backup software or will everything require us to purchase their software? Let me know any suggestions. Thanks alot!

Tekmazter · 05-22-2008, 08:27 PM

Hosted solutions can be expensive not to mention you need some serious bandwidth to do this over the wire. Even 14GB without any type of WAN optimization in place (see Riverbed Steelhead, CISCO WAAS, Citrix WANScaler) is going to take some serious time to backup.

I know Iron Mountain offers a service like this but if I may offer another opinion ... I would first analyze your data before it's backed up. That 14GB I assume is compressed but how much of that data actually changes day in and day out? You may be backing up data that hasn't been touched in weeks, months etc... Once you know what you need to push offsite, then start looking to move the data. There's no reason to backup data over and over again if it hasn't changed.

**Eclipse2003** · 05-22-2008, 09:02 PM

We are thinking about trying out Mozy. Any idea how long 14 GB will take to backup? I know it is based on our connection speed but assume we have about 450 kbs download and 1200 upload (based on remoting into my work PC from here and going to speakeasy's speedtest).

Tekmazter · 05-23-2008, 05:46 AM

There are free online bandwidth calculators out there. I was on another forum (blasphemy I know) the other day and came across this very same question. Someone there has referenced a terrific site to get your bandwidth calcs vs. amount of data to move.

**Eclipse2003** · 05-23-2008, 06:35 AM

Can you send me that link by chance?

Tekmazter · 05-23-2008, 07:23 AM

Sure thing ...

http://www.csgnetwork.com/csdlspeedcalc.html

**Eclipse2003** · 05-23-2008, 07:26 AM

Great. Thanks for the help.

Tekmazter · 05-23-2008, 07:30 AM

You could also look to do this to a remote branch office if you have one. I moved away from services such as Sunguard and Iron Mountain (for tapes) as our primary DR solution and built our budget around the $'s it would take to do this on our own and effectively manage it.

Of course having a company and boss who supports you is key. Also, not knowing your company business practices or the allotment of funds to you makes it difficult go gauge whether this would be viable but at least you know it's another option.

05-08-2008, 01:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Eclipse2003 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,156 OS: XP	Offsite Backup, Server 2003 I am looking for a good offsite/online backup. Currently we back-up around 14 GB using IOMEGA's backup software to a 35/90 REV drive. We'd like to get some sort of offsite/online backup going. Do you have any recommendations? Anything where we don't have to buy additional backup software or will everything require us to purchase their software? Let me know any suggestions. Thanks alot!

05-22-2008, 08:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tekmazter Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 177 OS: XP / 2K3 / RHE / HP-UX	Re: Offsite Backup, Server 2003 Hosted solutions can be expensive not to mention you need some serious bandwidth to do this over the wire. Even 14GB without any type of WAN optimization in place (see Riverbed Steelhead, CISCO WAAS, Citrix WANScaler) is going to take some serious time to backup. I know Iron Mountain offers a service like this but if I may offer another opinion ... I would first analyze your data before it's backed up. That 14GB I assume is compressed but how much of that data actually changes day in and day out? You may be backing up data that hasn't been touched in weeks, months etc... Once you know what you need to push offsite, then start looking to move the data. There's no reason to backup data over and over again if it hasn't changed.

05-22-2008, 09:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Eclipse2003 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,156 OS: XP	Re: Offsite Backup, Server 2003 We are thinking about trying out Mozy. Any idea how long 14 GB will take to backup? I know it is based on our connection speed but assume we have about 450 kbs download and 1200 upload (based on remoting into my work PC from here and going to speakeasy's speedtest).

05-23-2008, 05:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tekmazter Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 177 OS: XP / 2K3 / RHE / HP-UX	Re: Offsite Backup, Server 2003 There are free online bandwidth calculators out there. I was on another forum (blasphemy I know) the other day and came across this very same question. Someone there has referenced a terrific site to get your bandwidth calcs vs. amount of data to move.

05-23-2008, 06:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
Eclipse2003 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,156 OS: XP	Re: Offsite Backup, Server 2003 Can you send me that link by chance?

05-23-2008, 07:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tekmazter Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 177 OS: XP / 2K3 / RHE / HP-UX	Re: Offsite Backup, Server 2003 Sure thing ... http://www.csgnetwork.com/csdlspeedcalc.html Last edited by Tekmazter; 05-23-2008 at 07:24 AM.

05-23-2008, 07:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Eclipse2003 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,156 OS: XP	Re: Offsite Backup, Server 2003 Great. Thanks for the help.

05-23-2008, 07:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tekmazter Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 177 OS: XP / 2K3 / RHE / HP-UX	Re: Offsite Backup, Server 2003 You could also look to do this to a remote branch office if you have one. I moved away from services such as Sunguard and Iron Mountain (for tapes) as our primary DR solution and built our budget around the $'s it would take to do this on our own and effectively manage it. Of course having a company and boss who supports you is key. Also, not knowing your company business practices or the allotment of funds to you makes it difficult go gauge whether this would be viable but at least you know it's another option. Last edited by Tekmazter; 05-23-2008 at 07:32 AM.