NT 4.0 server

bruinator · 09-26-2006, 01:42 PM

Hi, I tried the net but couldn't find the info so I am turning to you guys. How do I make nt server in to a promary domain server? Thanks for any help.

bruinator · 09-26-2006, 02:54 PM

Is the reason I couldn't make my computer a PDS because I didn't have a compatible NIC card in it?

**bilbus** · 09-29-2006, 05:26 PM

you cant make a NT server a PDC or BDC after its installed ... it is a option during setup

kpmwrestler · 09-29-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bruinator

Hi, I tried the net but couldn't find the info so I am turning to you guys. How do I make nt server in to a promary domain server? Thanks for any help.

That's funny, I was wondering how to do the oposite. I want to go from pdc to stand alone server. http://www.techsupportforum.com/show...824#post649824

I'm pretty sure you can't change to primary domain server after installation.
Maybe a repair install would do it?

**bilbus** · 09-29-2006, 08:51 PM

you can only go from PDC to BDC and BDC to PDC once installed.

There is no way other then reinstall .... well there is a 3rd party utility but i would not use in production.

I can not think of name but its out there .. and works

**bilbus** · 09-30-2006, 08:40 PM

http://utools.com/UPromote.asp

DaMCT · 10-03-2006, 02:56 PM

Wow I didn't know anyone was still using NT. Just kidding. You need to upgrade so you can switch back and forth on the fly.

kpmwrestler · 10-03-2006, 04:10 PM

I decided to put xp on it. It's all good now.

**Cellus** · 10-04-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DaMCT

Wow I didn't know anyone was still using NT. Just kidding. You need to upgrade so you can switch back and forth on the fly.

Sad but a true reality.

Chevy · 10-04-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cellus

Sad but a true reality.

NT Server in a small network environment is far superior to 2K or 2k3. It is simpler, less resource intensive, and gets the job done.

**bilbus** · 10-04-2006, 08:36 PM

chevy is that a joke?

i cant think of one new server that cant do 2000 or 2003 with no problem.

that is one of the dumbest thigs i have heard all week ...i take it you have not used nt4 much

Chevy · 10-04-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbus

chevy is that a joke?

i cant think of one new server that cant do 2000 or 2003 with no problem.

that is one of the dumbest thigs i have heard all week ...i take it you have not used nt4 much

Please read this.

I never said anything about NEW servers. Of course new servers can handle 2k or 2k3 ... They're new!

I'm talking about the OS as a whole. NT4 is less resource intensive (an NT4 file/print server is happy with a PIII-450 and 256MB of RAM ... Try 2k3 on that).

I talked about simplicity. NT4's Domain approach is simpler than 2k's AD (a poor interpretation of X.500 if you ask me. Novel's NDS had it right 10 years ago).

I specifically mentioned a small network environment (ie the Small Business), which does not need in-house DNS, container level security, or much of the additional overhead inherent in 2k/2k3.

With the proper use of global groups and the correct implementation of share and NTFS level security, NT4 can still provide two of the most used services in any company - File and Print sharing.

Add to that MS Proxy Server, and Exchange Server 5.5, and the continued value of NT4 becomes evident.

**bilbus** · 10-05-2006, 03:55 PM

ya i will have to disagree with you there

kpmwrestler · 10-05-2006, 04:27 PM

I also like nt4 because it uses so little resources. I also like how simple and easy to troubleshoot it is. I just decided to put xp on it because I didn't need a server. You only need 2k3 if you have a large network and a monster server to install it on. Nt4 can run on a small semi-old desktop machine.

kpmwrestler · 10-05-2006, 04:28 PM

whoa, I have a question. how did I get "tsf hardware tech team" and that little evil-looking smiley on my profile? Has somebody gotten into my profile?

**bilbus** · 10-05-2006, 06:14 PM

i have run 2003 on a P3 500 with 512 ram, works just fine. You dont need a monster server unless you are putting to many apps on it. Windows is not a mainframe, you should segment your services. if you are taxing your 2003 boxes its due to poor planing and implementation

kpmwrestler · 10-05-2006, 07:02 PM

I didn't mean monster super extreme mondo gaming machine, but nt requires a minimum of 16 megs of ram and a super slow processor! (maybe it was 32 megs of ram, but 2k3 couldn't even start on 64!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lhuser · 10-05-2006, 07:49 PM

The thing is, Windows NT Server uses the real basic stuff you need. You can get more from sites and all, but the NT kernels ae way less resource intesnive as his succesors. Windows 2000 introduced simpler applications in order for you to create your craP (I don't use it so...lol!). Windows 2003 is all these automatic roles and all .File printer sharing on NT is far faster than 2003. Let me tell you this: My Pentium 4 machine will run Windows NT 4 server, but the only cons on it is that the configurations aren't in a general Control panels...they are seperate and hard to find at times.

**bilbus** · 10-05-2006, 08:44 PM

lol gaming rig?

ya not so much

there are a limitless list of cons for NT4 .... 4gb boot drive is just 1

lhuser · 10-06-2006, 05:12 AM

Oh, that NTFS config sucks hands down. It's actually 8GB. That was the basic way for me saying no to Windows NT.

09-26-2006, 01:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
bruinator Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 24 OS: xp	NT 4.0 server Hi, I tried the net but couldn't find the info so I am turning to you guys. How do I make nt server in to a promary domain server? Thanks for any help.

09-26-2006, 02:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
bruinator Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 24 OS: xp	Is the reason I couldn't make my computer a PDS because I didn't have a compatible NIC card in it?

09-29-2006, 05:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
bilbus TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 949 OS: OS2 Warp	you cant make a NT server a PDC or BDC after its installed ... it is a option during setup

09-29-2006, 08:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
bilbus TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 949 OS: OS2 Warp	you can only go from PDC to BDC and BDC to PDC once installed. There is no way other then reinstall .... well there is a 3rd party utility but i would not use in production. I can not think of name but its out there .. and works

09-30-2006, 08:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
bilbus TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 949 OS: OS2 Warp	http://utools.com/UPromote.asp

10-03-2006, 02:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
DaMCT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 21 OS: Windows Server 2003 R2	Wow I didn't know anyone was still using NT. Just kidding. You need to upgrade so you can switch back and forth on the fly.

10-03-2006, 04:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
kpmwrestler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 186 OS: win98/winxp, MS-DOS/win31/NT	I decided to put xp on it. It's all good now.

10-04-2006, 08:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
bilbus TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 949 OS: OS2 Warp	chevy is that a joke? i cant think of one new server that cant do 2000 or 2003 with no problem. that is one of the dumbest thigs i have heard all week ...i take it you have not used nt4 much

10-05-2006, 03:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
bilbus TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 949 OS: OS2 Warp	ya i will have to disagree with you there

10-05-2006, 04:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
kpmwrestler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 186 OS: win98/winxp, MS-DOS/win31/NT	I also like nt4 because it uses so little resources. I also like how simple and easy to troubleshoot it is. I just decided to put xp on it because I didn't need a server. You only need 2k3 if you have a large network and a monster server to install it on. Nt4 can run on a small semi-old desktop machine.

10-05-2006, 04:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
kpmwrestler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 186 OS: win98/winxp, MS-DOS/win31/NT	whoa, I have a question. how did I get "tsf hardware tech team" and that little evil-looking smiley on my profile? Has somebody gotten into my profile?

10-05-2006, 06:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
bilbus TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 949 OS: OS2 Warp	i have run 2003 on a P3 500 with 512 ram, works just fine. You dont need a monster server unless you are putting to many apps on it. Windows is not a mainframe, you should segment your services. if you are taxing your 2003 boxes its due to poor planing and implementation

10-05-2006, 07:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
kpmwrestler Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 186 OS: win98/winxp, MS-DOS/win31/NT	I didn't mean monster super extreme mondo gaming machine, but nt requires a minimum of 16 megs of ram and a super slow processor! (maybe it was 32 megs of ram, but 2k3 couldn't even start on 64!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-05-2006, 07:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
lhuser Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 52 OS: My modified Windows XP My System	The thing is, Windows NT Server uses the real basic stuff you need. You can get more from sites and all, but the NT kernels ae way less resource intesnive as his succesors. Windows 2000 introduced simpler applications in order for you to create your craP (I don't use it so...lol!). Windows 2003 is all these automatic roles and all .File printer sharing on NT is far faster than 2003. Let me tell you this: My Pentium 4 machine will run Windows NT 4 server, but the only cons on it is that the configurations aren't in a general Control panels...they are seperate and hard to find at times.

10-05-2006, 08:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
bilbus TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 949 OS: OS2 Warp	lol gaming rig? ya not so much there are a limitless list of cons for NT4 .... 4gb boot drive is just 1

10-06-2006, 05:12 AM	#20 (permalink)
lhuser Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 52 OS: My modified Windows XP My System	Oh, that NTFS config sucks hands down. It's actually 8GB. That was the basic way for me saying no to Windows NT.