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Old 03-25-2006, 05:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question inaccessible boot device with new 2000 hardware build

Hi there-
I'm building a new computer mostly from scratch (I've done it before with only a little help from friends), but my friends and I are stumped on this problem. Argh how to start explaining this....? Well, when I put everthing together (new motherboard, graphics card, power supply, cpu, old IDE harddrive running win2000pro) it starts up windows ok and then halfway through the load screen it blue screens into this error: “stop: 0x0000007b (0xeb81f84c, 0xc0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) INACCESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE.” It recognizes the harddrive in the IDE scan under drive 3, but when I go into the bios it’s not treating it as a master or slave or anything. I’ve tried leaving the jumper off and having it set as a master, both with same result.

I've looked the error up on the windows site and the only possible problems it could have are these (the rest don’t apply to my hardware/software setup.) “Your computer is infected with a boot sector virus. A resource conflict exists between the boot controller and another controller in the system or between SCSI devices. Drive translation is not being performed or was changed. The boot volume is corrupt and cannot be mounted by Windows NT. Information in the Windows NT registry about which device drivers load at start up is corrupt.” Presumably, since I’m running windows fine on my current old computer with this same old harddrive, there isn’t anything wrong with the filesystem. I’ve scanned for spyware/viruses/scandisk etc and found nothing wrong. Of course I scan for all that stuff all the time anyways. So the real problem has got to be “A resource conflict exists between the boot controller and another controller in the system or between SCSI devices.” Or something else.

It would probably help someone trying to figure out my problem to look at my motherboard bios manual, which is at- http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/m...e=GA-8I945PL-G
When I start up the new system I don’t have any other devices on it to simplify matters, just the hd. No cd/dvd/disk/extras. Now, this new motherboard I have has RAID, which my friend have told me I don’t need b/c of my setup and I have no idea how it works anyways. It says in the motherboard faq “Why can't I install OS or get into Windows when just install one SATA (IDE) HDD?” And then it says to disabled RAID to fix that. But if I turn off RAID completely, windows won’t even try to start and it says boot device not found. I’ve also tried setting the raid function to ATA instead of RAID and I still get the same bluescreen.

The new hardware I have is:
· Gigabyte GA-8I945PL-G Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945PL Express ATX Intel Motherboard
· Intel Celeron D 336 Prescott 533MHz FSB LGA 775 64-Bit Processor
· Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply
· 512MB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200)
· DIAMOND Radeon X800GTO 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
The old harddrive is a Maxtor 60gig. I just formatted and reinstalled windows a few months ago, so I really hope I don’t have to do it again. Um, I hope this is enough info to start getting some ideas rolling. I really appreciate any help anyone can give!
Linda
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Old 03-25-2006, 06:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi there-
The old harddrive is a Maxtor 60gig. I just formatted and reinstalled windows a few months ago, so I really hope I don’t have to do it again. Um, I hope this is enough info to start getting some ideas rolling. I really appreciate any help anyone can give!
Linda
Hi Linda, (my wife's name BTW)

Anyhow, the above statement tells a world of information. One can not change motherboards and use an old drive from another motherboard unless you do one of the following:

> Prepare the drive in advance with the old board.

> Do a repair install of your OS which means you have to have a valid OS disk and valid serial number that you can use. This is not 100% foolproof, but usually works.

> Do a complete new install of the OS from scratch. (valid Serial number and CD)

> Do a complete install of your OS on a new disk and then put your old disk on as a slave so you can keep the data.

My recommendation would be to do a repair install of the OS and see if you can get things going. Also, you did mention Sata, but not sure if that meant you had one and trying to use that or only the IDE drive. When you post back, please clarify.
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Confused windows won't install on old HD, doesn't recognize

I'm so glad someone replied to this, thank you. I think that your ideas are great and probably correct. Unfortunately, there must be something else that's a deeper problem also. I started up from the win2000pro cd using the new hardware, intending to repair or reinstall windows as you said, but the install said there was no harddrive to install on so it couldn't run. So I guess there's still something I need to change in the BIOS. Should I actually be disabling RAID? So what's the next idea?
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi,

I need some more little bits of information to fill in some of the pieces.

Are you trying to set up RAID? If not, then you need to go in and make sure it is disabled (new board usually come enabled) in the BIOS setup menu.

When you say it recognizes the drive in the third slot, that bothers me because that tells me you may not have it hooked up properly.

Start again and tell me exactly what drives you have to hook up including the following:

Type of drives with brand name (Sata, IDE, CDRom, DVD)

What drive do you want to be your boot drive?

What is on IDE #1 (list what you want to be there and i will look at how appropriate that is) If not sure, list drives and I will tell you what I think might be best.

What is on IDE #2 (same stuff)

List how you have the jumpers of each drive set or listed.

Where on the ribbon cable do you have them set (end, middle for IDE) ?

If Sata, which slots are they on?

Are you using the 80 connector cables for the hard drives or the older 40 connector Cables?

Post back and we will see what your setup looks like.
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I think I may have figured out what's wrong, but I'm not sure. I realized that the CD with the motherboard was bootable, so out of curiousity I put that in, and it said my hard drive doesn't support HPA, so that's why it couldn't load. I have no clue what HPA is, but apparently my hard drive isn't even compatible with the motherboard! I feel like a complete idiot. I just assumed if I had the right cords and the right settings it would be ok. I'm thinking about buying a SATA drive even though I can't really afford one right now. I thought I had answered most of your questions in the original post, but here goes. I am using a Maxtor 6L060L3 ide 80gig hard drive. I'm using the cables that came with the motherboard, so I know it's not bad cables or anything. I hooked it up to ide #3 because I read i should reserve the ide #1 for the cd and dvdrom drive. I tried the jumpers as single, master, and leaving the jumpers off with no change. Later I did put a cdrom drive on...it's old, got it from a friend...uh, MSI model # c52 (ms-8152)...it's not installed right now so i'm just reading from the drive stickers. The drives are hooked to the ends of the cables with nothing else on them. No I'm not trying to set up RAID, I already said I know I don't want it. I also already said when I disabled it in the BIOS it made it so windows wouldn't even start and says boot device not found. The setup is real simple right now so there's no complications for me. So I guess I'm going to go look up what HPA is now....
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I think I may have figured out what's wrong, but I'm not sure. I realized that the CD with the motherboard was bootable, so out of curiousity I put that in, and it said my hard drive doesn't support HPA, so that's why it couldn't load. I have no clue what HPA is, but apparently my hard drive isn't even compatible with the motherboard!



That has nothing to do with being compatible with your motherboard, but some drives do not allocate for that feature...no big deal iMHO.

That HPA means Host Protected Area. Here is a link that will help you with that so you understand that:

http://www.buildorbuy.org/bbpc-12-10-03.html



I feel like a complete idiot.

I am happy, but you aren't one... has nothing to do with any real problem.

I just assumed if I had the right cords and the right settings it would be ok. I'm thinking about buying a SATA drive even though I can't really afford one right now.

Hold the phone and try to work through this one first before you go and blow money on something that is more difficult to set up.

I thought I had answered most of your questions in the original post, but here goes. I am using a Maxtor 6L060L3 ide 80gig hard drive. I'm using the cables that came with the motherboard, so I know it's not bad cables or anything. I hooked it up to ide #3

Mistake on that one.

because I read i should reserve the ide #1 for the cd and dvdrom drive.

Not a true statement as a rule

I tried the jumpers as single, master, and leaving the jumpers off with no change. Later I did put a cdrom drive on...it's old, got it from a friend...uh, MSI model # c52 (ms-8152)...it's not installed right now so i'm just reading from the drive stickers. The drives are hooked to the ends of the cables with nothing else on them. No I'm not trying to set up RAID, I already said I know I don't want it. I also already said when I disabled it in the BIOS it made it so windows wouldn't even start and says boot device not found. The setup is real simple right now so there's no complications for me. So I guess I'm going to go look up what HPA is now....

Let's back up a little bit. You need first to deal with the link I gave you and when you read it you will understand about the HPA feature in some boards Then, I suggest that you start over and do the following:

Hard Drive.....Jumpers set to Master on IDE #1 with drive placed on the END of the ribbon cable.

CDRom.....Jumpers set to Slave on IDE #1 with drive placed on the MIDDLE connector of the ribbon cable

Try the repair install and see what happens and report back what errors you get. Calm down, this too shall pass

Post back with questions or concerns.
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This problem is fixed, sorry- take a look at my more recent post

Tumbleweed-
I'm sorry, I should have posted when I purchased the SATA hard drive so you knew that this problem isn't valid anymore. I apologize. If you look, I have a new problem now (heh, don't I have wonderful luck). I never did figure out how to hook the ide hard drive up to the new system, but I'm not really concerned about that at the moment. I'd just like to be able to get the new system to post again now!
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Hi Linda,

I guess from what you said, you now have a Sata Drive which is fine. Also, from what I think you said, you have an IDE drive that you want also on the system.

Now, is it your intention to put a NEW OS install on the Sata drive? What are you now trying to do that I can help you with. I can't help you unless I know exactly what you are prsently having trouble with.
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